Just been reading a magazine and in there was a clip from DVLA are proposing,

 

All Pre 1998 cars that have been radically modded will require a single vehicle approval test (SVA), What is SVA you ask? Think of it as like an MOT only much more severe, the cost of the test is £150 and many existing vehicles like kit cars all ready have to do this and oftern fail, if you want to know more go to http://www.dvla.org.uk/public/consult/summary_inspection_procedures.htm

 

For example just lowing your ride hight could mean your car needs and SVA.

 

 

I fooked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just been reading a magazine and in there was a clip from DVLA are proposing,

 

All Pre 1998 cars that have been radically modded will require a single vehicle approval test (SVA), What is SVA you ask? Think of it as like an MOT only much more severe, the cost of the test is £150 and many existing vehicles like kit cars all ready have to do this and oftern fail, if you want to know more go to http://www.dvla.org.uk/public/consult/summary_inspection_procedures.htm

 

For example just lowing your ride hight could mean your car needs and SVA.

 

 

I fooked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Im just getting the message:

 

This domain name has been reserved for future use :headvswal

Im just getting the message:

 

This domain name has been reserved for future use :headvswal

 

 

Yeah me too.

what u mean bird

Just been reading a magazine and in there was a clip from DVLA are proposing,

 

All Pre 1998 cars that have been radically modded will require a single vehicle approval test (SVA), What is SVA you ask? Think of it as like an MOT only much more severe, the cost of the test is £150 and many existing vehicles like kit cars all ready have to do this and oftern fail, if you want to know more go to http://www.dvla.org.uk/public/consult/summary_inspection_procedures.htm

 

For example just lowing your ride hight could mean your car needs and SVA.

 

 

I fooked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

it'd be surprising if it ever got anywhere - the only retrospective vehicle laws ever introduced was the requirement for electric indicators... imagine trying to police it - they'd have to allowances for everything plus someone (i guess vosa) to enforce it.

 

sounds like a bunch of nobheads writing a white paper to me!!

just checked it myself and getting the same boys, it was my father wat gave me the mag to read, it was from a kit car mag, coz he's in the middle of building one, i think its sumthing we really have to watch, kit cars have been having to do this for ages and now the goverment are wanting all modded cars been checked big time, were trying to find out now wat the problem is.

 

 

 

this is right address.

 

http://www.dvla.gov.uk

 

then click on consultion docs and follow through, not good news.

 

karl

it'd be surprising if it ever got anywhere - the only retrospective vehicle laws ever introduced was the requirement for electric indicators... imagine trying to police it - they'd have to allowances for everything plus someone (i guess vosa) to enforce it.

 

sounds like a bunch of nobheads writing a white paper to me!!

 

 

This is not the case if you go to the DVLA site the responses to the questionnaire are already in. SVA is operated as DVLA test centres which already exist in most major cities in the UK. It is normal that vehicle Construction and Use Legislation changes are not retrospective however this legislation is a legal requirement to notify DVLA of changes to original specification, for the changes to be tested under the SVA regime and for the changes made to be anotated on the vehicle V5 - it will be retrospective in so much as it will apply to ALL vehicles that have been radically altered from their original specification.

 

Suggest you read the consulation outcome. The nobheads will probably win the day and SVA is not an easy test to pass!!

 

i dont want it as much as you guys but the way the world is going now its stupid

this is right address.

 

http://www.dvla.gov.uk

 

then click on consultion docs and follow through (link to responces to consultation on the review of th inspection procedures of the dvla, third one down under consultion papers, not good news.

reading that it sounds more like structure of the car. Alterned body panels to me is not structure.

have red the full dvla clip im on about and its the hole car guys im afraid not structual, wheels, bodykit, lowering so on and so on.

 

karl

for fooks sake..

 

gent this only applies to kit cars and cars that have been altered this only applies to the chassis and the body, if you keep the original chassis but put a new body on then its radically altered this does not apply to standard cars as it has already passed a manufacturers approval.

 

i had to go into this with the dvla and vosa reguarding the lamborghini countach replica i went to yorkshire. it only applies to home user builds only!!!! this means a kit form of car.. as the lamborghini was registered as a pontiac, most of its parts came from one, it was incorrectly registered it had to be registered as pontiac based replica or lamborghini coupe kitcar/replica.

 

also if i wanted it full re-registered it would have had to undergone an advanced sva test and then that test applies to the radicall altered vehicles but these are only applied to self builds or new kit builds.

 

so your normal car is safe.. period.

 

its all ready passed it tests upon build

for fooks sake..

 

gent this only applies to kit cars and cars that have been altered this only applies to the chassis and the body, if you keep the original chassis but put a new body on then its radically altered this does not apply to standard cars as it has already passed a manufacturers approval.

 

i had to go into this with the dvla and vosa reguarding the lamborghini countach replica i went to yorkshire. it only applies to home user builds only!!!! this means a kit form of car.. as the lamborghini was registered as a pontiac, most of its parts came from one, it was incorrectly registered it had to be registered as pontiac based replica or lamborghini coupe kitcar/replica.

 

also if i wanted it full re-registered it would have had to undergone an advanced sva test and then that test applies to the radicall altered vehicles but these are only applied to self builds or new kit builds.

 

so your normal car is safe.. period.

 

its all ready passed it tests upon build

 

 

 

this isnt coming from me mate i have red it from start to finish and its not what your going on about, the kit car check has been around for ages coz my dad has them and just bought a new one. i suggest everyone reads it properly. you can even look in fast ford this month issue. i dont want it either mate but it looks like it will change. soz mate.

 

karl

this is the two sections you need to read carefully..

 

41. Although their appearance is different from the original they may still qualify to retain their original registration marks. The vehicle components used from the original vehicle are allocated a numeric value and provided the vehicle scores eight points or more it will retain its original mark.

 

42. The point system is weighted as follows; the original or new (direct replacement from the manufacturer) unmodified chassis/monocoque bodyshell has a value of 5, the suspension (front and back) 2, axles (both) 2, transmission 2, steering assembly 2, engine 1.

 

 

as long as you can score over 8 on the points raised is section 42 you are fine. well the zed will still be a zed,, theres 5 points by putting fiberglass wings over the original metal there is no structural modification.. so thats exempt.

 

suspension front and rear, all you are doing is upgrading with a suspension that is " a rated equivelant" for this vehicle, you have in no way interfered with the normal use of the suspension so thats exempt.

 

axels.. they will stay stock.. exempt... the steering assy, ie column, universal joint, and the outer jacket, steering wheels are totally exempt as long as they follow legal standards this includes removeable steering wheels. so.. exempt.

 

so there you go over 8 points already without trying and with minor mods, also you have to remember to make the body ,chassis fail you have to "radically" and that means seriously alter them in a manner as to go beyond the specification of the manufacturer, which means you alter it in such a way as it is no longer recogniseable structurally as the original, this is now classed as a kit car, which is all this is about, private built kit cars. this has been brought about due to the amount of shoddy built kit cars.

 

when you upgrade a part on your car for another, as long as it clearly states that it is fit for use only on the model of car and is safety rated then, that part/upgrade is exempt. if the parts you replace have no uk safety stamp or rating they are not exempt.

 

i have just had this confirmed by a friend who works in the dvla and does the vosa sva registrations also.

 

so just to clarify if i have my chop top done as i would be radically altering the structural integrity of my car it would need an sva test, if i just put better suspension on and some fiberglass wings etc... i dont need an sva test as they do not interfere with the structural safety of the car.

cosmetic and basic upgrades are exempt.

 

cut your chassis and car shell up and about then your altering it..

just to add, i have been told clearly on this now..

 

i did refer them to this: http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/summary_inspection_procedures.htm

 

the term radically alter means to modify a car, by means of a kit or structurally in such a way as to deem it indistinguishable from it original specification, and as such to require an test to certify it for use on the uk roads.

 

manufactured cars are exempt as long as structural,chassis and shell conversions are not carried out. a fiberglass wing doesnt count.. otherwise every pattern part replacement that isnt made by the original manufacturer would mean that you have to test your car!!

 

a few years ago there was an amnesty for incorrectly registered kit cars, just by going to the dvla letting them look at the car to varify it they would re-register it withought an sva test, this ran out 4 years ago now incorrectly registered kits have to be tested.

 

all kit cars have had sva tests since 1983 i think (correct me on the date if need be), however only in the past few years have the dvla now made it a legal requirement that any home built car incorrectly registered or using the doner cars registration and does not meet the points system above is not legal and as such requires an extended sva test to confirm if it is valid to keep the registration or to given a q plate.

 

 

any manufactured car modified before registration in such a way as to radically alter its specifications will have to be re-tested.

 

 

permenently imported vehicles.

 

section 17 clearly states that the only requiremnts for imports are that they are registered and meet all safety requirements.

 

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Procedures for the Registration of Rebuilt, Radically Altered Vehicles, Kit and Kit Converted Vehicles and Reconstructed Classics

 

 

24. The objective of the current ‘INF 26’ procedures is to establish if the vehicle being presented for inspection is the original vehicle or if it has been altered to such an extent that the identity has been lost. The current inspection procedures rely on both an inspection of the documentation, such as the registration certificate, receipts for parts, and an inspection of the vehicle. DVLA and DVLNI generally relies on the integrity of the vehicle’s keeper to detail the components or kit used in the vehicle build, when deciding which registration is retained or allocated to a particular vehicle.

 

 

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rebuilt vehicles

 

DVLA’s Current Procedures

 

27. A rebuilt vehicle may keep its identity provided it retains enough of the original components, including the unmodified or new chassis/monocoque bodyshell. It must also contain at least two major components from the original vehicle. The major components are regarded as the suspension (front and back), axles (both), transmission, steering assembly, engine. If a second hand or modified chassis/monocoque bodyshell is used a Q registration mark will be issued and the vehicle will be subject to one of the following depending on the vehicle type;

 

 

 

 

so there is nothing in this paper to suggest that modifying a registered car by adding approved products in anyway requires you to have the vehicle sva tested.

I believe after reading PPC the tosser gov we have in at the moment want to make any car we have modified from the manufacturers spec subject to a SVA, probably due to the environmentalist nazis and the chavs ruining the image!

 

The in and outs of it will have to churned out by the lawyers but if the dutch guys are anything to go by this will kill the modding and motorsprt scene in the uk :(

And there you have it in a fookin nutshell another fookin reason to leave our OWN country caus once again we will be pursecuted for... well being BRITISH :headvswal i detest this country now i,m off to buy an island in the middle of nowhere off e-scam and build a fookin drag strip, i will of course invite you all BUT Turbopsychosis law number one NO FOOKIN BULLSH*T POLITICS !!!!!!!! :D :D

And there you have it in a fookin nutshell another fookin reason to leave our OWN country caus once again we will be pursecuted for... well being BRITISH :headvswal i detest this country now i,m off to buy an island in the middle of nowhere off e-scam and build a fookin drag strip, i will of course invite you all BUT Turbopsychosis law number one NO FOOKIN BULLSH*T POLITICS !!!!!!!! :D :D

Can I come with kids and missus in tow??? ;)

Can I come with kids and missus in tow??? ;)

 

 

Of course buddy but i,m afraid Optimax is a bit expensive on me island 35p a litre 15p to buy it, ship it, pump it into yer car and 20p to pay the monkeys to wash yer zed !!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Even if you did have to get a sva for a modified car, you are still doing better than what the irish gov are trying to do. they want all modified cars banned and so in january a law is going to be passed saying that no car can have a spoiler over 10cm, no aftermarket exhausts, no tinted windows, no induction kits, no bonnet scoops, no aftermarket lights.

So the irish gov are going a bit on the radical side.

Right then... anyone up for decamping to the US?

Right then... anyone up for decamping to the US?

 

of all the places to choose!! or you mean kick out the yanks first?? :rofl: :rofl: