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Morning,

 

Just need to know what I need to network 2 pc's wirlessly. I'll need to connect them both to the net (I'm on broadband) for remote assistance :)

 

Cheers

 

Vijay

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Get yourself a wireless router and 2 wireless cards for the pc's.

 

Can be complex to setup, but just put in wireless broadband into Yahoo etc and all will be revealed !

You can use wireless peer-to-peer connections and then the Internet connection sharing thing in Windows. Cheaper than buying a wireless broardband router as well, but probably not as convenient.

Once you have it installed, be sure to secure it using WEP and MAC address filtering..

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cheers guys. I'm not clue up on this so AndyP and AngusGlover - I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about! lol

 

I'm looking for plug n play, as simple as possible :)

 

Cheers

 

Vijay

I would do it with wires,

 

Wireless is not that secure, its not cheap, not that easy to set up, not fast and can be tempermantal.

Wireless just allows you to add more should you need to. I use wireless and have no issues but I can also use the 4 ports to use cable if I need to.

 

My advice would be to buy a wireless router, but use the cables if you are close enough to the router to do that. It then allows you the option, should you buy a laptop later to use it anywhere in the house. The cables into the router then allows you to take full advantage of the router capability and just uses a normal network card..100MB.

 

HTH...

Wireless just allows you to add more should you need to. I use wireless and have no issues but I can also use the 4 ports to use cable if I need to.

 

My advice would be to buy a wireless router, but use the cables if you are close enough to the router to do that. It then allows you the option, should you buy a laptop later to use it anywhere in the house. The cables into the router then allows you to take full advantage of the router capability and just uses a normal network card..100MB.

 

HTH...

 

Agree with the above. I have my desktop pc cabled to the wireless router and an old laptop for anywhere else around the flat ...or even browsing the forum while outside with the laptop connected to the zed!

 

David

or if the desire takes you...checking mail while sitting on the loo.....

or if the desire takes you...checking mail while sitting on the loo.....

 

you're not there now are you?? :hurl:

id just get a 4 way hub and a seperate router

 

plug the router into the hub then the Pc's in the hub

 

not hard to do

 

can have up to 4 PC's sharing the connection

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cheers guys. It's for a carputer so has to be wireless. So a wireless router can still be connected by a network cable if it's close to my pc??

 

Vijay

cheers guys. It's for a carputer so has to be wireless. So a wireless router can still be connected by a network cable if it's close to my pc??

 

Vijay

 

Most wireless routers have 3-4 cable ports.

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is there a difference in speed between wireless and cable?

get 2 10/100 ethernet cards, and a hub. Plug modem into uplink on hub, and then plug computers into hub.

is there a difference in speed between wireless and cable?

 

Most wirelwess are 55 Megabits, but they ahve a lot of overheads. A portion of the data sent is not data but encryption, packet Id etc.

 

You can get decent 1Gb (1,024 Megabit) network cards and hubs cheap now. They also have less overheads.

 

Its only worth it if you are transfering large files between computers, and do it often.

A hub doesn't allow for much expansion...or allow you to use a laptop in the garden while sipping a cold beer though...

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what's the difference between patch and crossover cables?

 

Cheers

 

Vijay

With a crossover cable you are able to link two computers without a hub in between them.

A hub doesn't allow for much expansion...or allow you to use a laptop in the garden while sipping a cold beer though...

 

 

Hub doesnt allow much expantion?

 

I will tell my employers that they should ditch their 50 linked 48 port switches for wireless because there is no expantion ;)

 

If you want to work with out wires, wifi is the only way, besides, satalite, infer-red, 3G, GPRS. ;)

 

Go and buy a wifi kit. Wireless router and a few wireless cards, and bob's your alarm fitting uncle.

 

Dont forget to invest in a good firewall software. You dont want people connecting to your network or using your internet connection.

Was kinda thinking about home use. OK, you can add more desktops but thats it.

I see your point though, I have dozens of switches and routers here and I aint swapping them for wireless routers but I am not at home...;-)

 

WEP and MAC address filtering will stop people using your connection, but you still want FW and AV software installed...

Was kinda thinking about home use. OK, you can add more desktops but thats it.

I see your point though, I have dozens of switches and routers here and I aint swapping them for wireless routers but I am not at home...;-)

 

WEP and MAC address filtering will stop people using your connection, but you still want FW and AV software installed...

 

 

Most switches/hubs are 8 port. I doubt he will have more than 8 computers networked at once. Besides XP home doesnt allow more then 5 computer to be networked on the same workgroup at once.

Most wireless are 4 port...so you have me there.

 

XP Pro is better....

Most wireless are 4 port...so you have me there.

 

XP Pro is better....

 

 

Thats one of the main differences between XP Pro and home.

Also I think the home network is capped to 10mb, I remember copying loads of files and it was taking forever on "home". I booted in to 2000 and copied it that way and it took 20mins or so.

I think Home is also restricts how many users can access a computer at once to 2, even though you can network 5 computers.

 

Vijay, I suggest you look at Ebuyer's stuff. Ebuyers own wireless router can route USB. So you can share your USB printer, pen drive, scanner, digital camera etc via the router and not shared via a printer.

Most wirelwess are 55 Megabits, but they ahve a lot of overheads. A portion of the data sent is not data but encryption, packet Id etc.

 

You can get decent 1Gb (1,024 Megabit) network cards and hubs cheap now. They also have less overheads.

 

Its only worth it if you are transfering large files between computers, and do it often.

 

 

[pedant]They're actually 54 M/bit and as you say the overhead is pretty high. If you got much more than 21 M/bit actual throughput over a full 54 M/bit connection I'd be impressed. There also some 108 M/bit systems available, but I don't think they are a IEEE ratified standard yet (like 802.11b/g) so interoperability and longer term support may be a problem. Stick with standards, then a card from one manufacturer and a router from another will work. Might not seem a big deal, but when you buy your new machine which has wireless built-in, or a mate comes round with a different device, then it's still gonna work right with your wireless router.[/pedant]

Thats good advice. The 108MB has not been agreed and it may be some time before it is.

 

You could always try networking in DOS...no overheads so it is pretty quick, granted the userability is not as good though.....

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