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Is it possible to remove passenger side turbo without engine out?

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Wow, I'll give you a medal if you manage it. I've heard of someone managing it but I can't see how they did it? I can't see how you would have enough space to get it away and off of its mounting bolts plus you'd need inspecter gadget arms and hands to get to the bolts. Dave

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I've got the larger T28's fitted as well just to complicate matters.

 

Also what are we looking at to get the oil seals done on a single turbo?

it can be dont but it just isnt worth the stress you would have to bend 13mm spanners to get to the manifold nuts,water feeds etc but to answer the question it can be done steveo did it on here but it was a mission IIRC

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I can't believe he's broken it already (again!)

 

Not saying any more right now :rolleyes:

Don't even ask me why :rolleyes:

 

Holy camolly! :shock:

 

I bet your Hopping mad after spending all that money on your engine. I'm really sorry for ya Chris. Don't despare mate. Remember the garage I told you about? could be a cost effective way of getting it sorted

 

Leon at Alunox did it to a auto with standard Tub's.

 

Also Middlehurst's always insisted on removing Turbos while engine was in siuation so as to avoid moving engine loom. Apparently they would remove the box and had a couple of addapted tools.

 

All the guys they had to doo all the tuning work on Zed's have moved on to ????? but i'm sure I know where they aint gone. :smash: :smash:

Further investigation is required mate as its not just that side...

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Getting really bad smoking on idle mainly from passenger side.

Occasionaly is fairly light smoke from drivers side or comes from both but I suspect thats just coming through the balance bar?

The turbos were not new when i put this engine in but they certainly looked like it.

After only a few hundred miles it started smoking.

Looks like the oil seal has gone on the passenger side turbo.

Couldnt be a dodgy PCV then?

 

Cheaper option to attemp first?

 

Karl

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The PCV's were new when the engine went in.

They could have clogged but it's very bad smoking, not just a bit.

Its a bit of hassle to recon the turbos but nothing to bad, took only an hour or so for each one once they were removed. Opinions are split on the wisdom of not balancing them properly, but I just marked them when I took them apart and put them together the same way and they were fine ( Graham Bell thinks its ok in his turbo tuning book!). The hardest thing was taking the big circlip (sp?) off to split them, although I thought I saw some pictures of it being done just taking one side off and pulling the workings through but not sure about this. Dave

Did you have the engine rebored?

 

How many miles has it done?

 

Were the bores checked?

 

Apparently, or so I'm told (so this cold be complete boll*cks) the bores ware slightly oval and when you put new pistons and rings in it can take up to a 1000 miles for them to bed in properly. so you do get some oil passing the rings at first unless the bore is rebored and first oversize pistons used.

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Yes it's been rebored for slightly larger pistons but the smoking is purely on idle when you stop at traffic lights etc.

After 30 seconds ticking over I get huge clouds out of the passenger side exhaust. It's burning oil when running but you can't really see it when you're moving.

This is exactly what it was doing before the piston cracked so I'm fairly sure it's not the engine itself.

It was full of oil when I picked it up and after 450 miles it was empty.

Filled it up with a full can and most of that's gone already.

650 miles ish it's done in total I think.

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Car is going back in for the turbo to come off and be sorted :)

Who's doing your work chris? I was looking for someone in our area who knows what they doing with them. I mainly do my own work, including changing my engine(last week infact), but its always handy to have someone pretty local if i aint got time to do it.

Car is going back in for the turbo to come off and be sorted :)

Would be interested in what the actual problem is. Symptoms seem unusual, with there not being a batman smokescreen on reving which I'd expect when turbo seal is knackered. Has anyone else had anything similar? Dave

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Who's doing your work chris? I was looking for someone in our area who knows what they doing with them. I mainly do my own work, including changing my engine(last week infact), but its always handy to have someone pretty local if i aint got time to do it.

 

It's not being done locally, I don't know of anyone round here who's worked on them in a big way.

I do most stuff myself too but like you say sometimes you just don't have time.

I pulled my engine last year, replaced it and did a manual conversion but when I cracked a piston i really couldn't face it all again as i'm just too busy to get it done in a reasonable time.

 

There's a small garage in Harrogate and the guy owns a Z. He's rebuilt his own engine etc and has done me lots of smaller jobs dead cheap but he wasn't interested in doing my rebuild as he said it would clog his workshop up for too long.

Car is going back in for the turbo to come off and be sorted :)

 

Nice one. Hope shes back on the road soon.

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