Isn't it strange how so many Zed owners (all performance cars in fact) are either IT or forces. Guess its fortunate I'm both! Got another microsoft exam tuesday so as you can see I'm studying hard and not spending all weekend on the forum.

Dave :dance: :dance:

i think you need to be in both to be able to afford to run the damn car :mad:

Forces arn't particuarly well paid, just often don't have any outgoings. You can go out and spend it on beer and dodgey women or you can stay in and spend it on a car. Thus I have a very fast shiny car , an intact kidney , and no life! Hopefully when I get out I'll have the same but with a life!!

ahh thats where im going wrong!!! thats why i can only afford a na z lol.

 

seing i am only a turner,miller/maintanance engineer deff no money in that i tell thee

The arse has fallen out of IT "to many people doing it" So I'm back to my trade fixing cars :) But I can pick my jobs these days which is "Most Excellent" :)

I work on Felixstowe Dock moving containers round in circles, most boring job on the planet but it pays well so I get to have nice toys :rolleyes:

The arse has fallen out of IT "to many people doing it" So I'm back to my trade fixing cars :)

 

Ouch, thats not what I want to hear!! What area were you in? I've recently done my CCNA and want to continue down that path (just doing the MCSE to fill in any gaps in my current knowledge) when I leave the forces. Will be working on my CCNP next. If anyone has any more advice on this I'd be very interested.

Dave

Hi Dave

I've got my MCSE and City & Guilds I, II, III, and an HNC in motor vehicle engineering What really got me going in the IT business was the MRP database side of manufacturing. I got a job with Tokheim running there paintshop and setup an MS Access database prog (was later transfered to SQL with a VB front end) to run there production (Turn over 15million+ a week) I doubled there paintshop production in 4 months. Wrote myself out of a job :)... If yer looking for a job in IT start looking at MRP, ERP and if you get a chance go for S.A.P admin ..only place you can make any money these days.

Craig

I work on Felixstowe Dock moving containers round in circles, most boring job on the planet but it pays well so I get to have nice toys :rolleyes:

 

Arrrrrrrr, so you drive a straddle carrier then? Cool.

 

I studied at Southampton Institute for a degree in Shipping Operations. After working in the MOD for 4 years I got made redundant, was in and out of work for about 2 years. Start work as a ship's agent in Bristol in September if all goes to plan. Currently doing a fill-in job for an electronics marketing company doing promotion events and web advertising. It's crap.

Different side of the industry to me. I've been doing the network side of it for the last 4-5yrs in the forces. Had some good potential offers in the cisco sphere. Need to start getting the cv out and about.

Different side of the industry to me. I've been doing the network side of it for the last 4-5yrs in the forces. Had some good potential offers in the cisco sphere. Need to start getting the cv out and about.

 

Ok Dave don't take this the wrong way but..

CCNA stuff yer gona be up against 21 year old Clio drivers that probably will know more about the latest versions of the hardware and will make you look like a twat in front of yer boss at any kinda business meeting.. I'm a mechanic database MRP systems just make sense to me

Know where you're coming from but I'm a bit of a geek with it anyway. The 21yr Clio drivers dont generally have an ounce of common sense or experience so hopefully wont be a problem. Although there are quite a lot of MCSE's out there, there seems to be a lack of CCNA's. The people I know who employ them say they've got problems get enough of them. Remains to be seen I suppose when I get out. What you are saying will give me motivation to make sure I know more than the spotty Clio driver!

I'm a chippie by trade, have been fitting upvc windows

for 4+ yrs now though, nice job in the summer, crap in

the winter though! Money's not bad either.

Job & finish...thats the best bit!

Go for it Dave... If you get a chance go for SAP admin.. Mega bucks still to be made there .. It's a hoot at 35 being called a Junior admin. When I've got the company's IT mangers car, 928 in my garage getting a full service.. "WORLD IS FU***D" me thinks

i also fit upvc windows and doors and fascia soffit and guttering, ,,, and i do ice installs mainly for fun, and build pcs, but main income earner is the windows, its great trade to be in never run out of work ,

Gonna have to look at SAP, don't know the first thing about it at the moment!

 

Ok forces, IT and upvc windows!

well i run my own computer business, i design, install and service temp controlled servers in cold rooms. and i build and supply consumer systems including complete home automation systems.

 

currently a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner, beta tester and code analyser. I hold full M.C.S.E & M.S.S.A also apple A.C.S.E & A.N.R.A certifications. I also code in most current languages and am also a legacy support engineer

 

trained as a chipset designer and worked for ibm, sun systems, cray, apple, microsoft, and recently panasonic designing chipsets for their dect phone series.

 

I also used to own my own recording studio which i sold, i was signed to platipus records uk for a while, worked with people ranging from brian ferry, steve lipton, geri halliwell, mauve, simon berry, faithless to name a few. i had a page or two in an edition of future music a while back reguarding the remixes i had done over the course of a year..

 

these days i just build and service laptops, computers ,networks and satellite adsl systems, and occasionally the military grade magnavox sat phones

 

 

ps: if ya want cheap computers and inks/dvds & stuff all ya gotta do is ask ;) discount for members of course!!

Thats a great CV! Do you mind if I send you mine at some point. The more advice I can get the better. Dave

no probz glad to talk and help if i can any advice i can give is free ;).. if i have any tool set cds kiking about i will get them to you, i may have some handbooks somewhere from my net sys apps also.. will see what i can do..

 

if your at the ross on wye meet we can talk more there.

The arse has fallen out of IT "to many people doing it" So I'm back to my trade fixing cars :) But I can pick my jobs these days which is "Most Excellent" :)

I'll agree with you there! I started an IT job in the NHS back in 2000 but my HND didn't seem to count for sh1t with my old boss who after 5 years of no regrading despite saving his ass on numerous occasions, took on some 20 year old tossers with no quals and put them on my grade so I've just quit my IT job and gone back into Electronics. I've now got a boss who respects HNCs and HNDs and is pushing for regrades all the time.

 

There's a deal going on between my new department and my old NHS boss's at the mo so I've already advised my new boss to tell the old one where to shove it :xxx: He has listened fair play!! :cool:

 

Revenge is sweet.

im lucky i specialise in designin and building the mainframes for coldrooms. the money to be made there is fantastic, but you have to know your stuff, and be able to field repair and replace s.m.t components and optical relays, splicing etc..

 

once your in and doing a good job they wont go anywhere else, they will also try to get yoo to become and employee and drop the contract work, but never do that you lose all the money.

 

best thing is the only confidentiality paper you sign is reguarding data, so other companies ask you what the other has had installed or set up and then they get you to do the same. then you get a little extra for that. dog eat dog world on mainframes.

 

do you realaise that the met office is still using 20+ year old crays!!!!!

 

the parts are obsolete but the things just keep working, quite slow to modern systems but they spent so much money on them they cant afford to bin them yet..

When I was back in england I was a Research & Development/Service engineer for Kawasaki. No, not the bikes but Hydraulics. Dam good job and I used to love it! Hopefully have a Job as a sales manager for a big American Hydraulic company out here in Canada. Just waiting for the Visa to be processed.

im lucky i specialise in designin and building the mainframes for coldrooms. the money to be made there is fantastic, but you have to know your stuff, and be able to field repair and replace s.m.t components and optical relays, splicing etc..

 

once your in and doing a good job they wont go anywhere else, they will also try to get yoo to become and employee and drop the contract work, but never do that you lose all the money.

 

best thing is the only confidentiality paper you sign is reguarding data, so other companies ask you what the other has had installed or set up and then they get you to do the same. then you get a little extra for that. dog eat dog world on mainframes.

 

do you realaise that the met office is still using 20+ year old crays!!!!!

 

the parts are obsolete but the things just keep working, quite slow to modern systems but they spent so much money on them they cant afford to bin them yet..

 

Thats pretty mad, you'd think the met office would have the best going. Shouldn't surprise me mind knowing some of the sh*t that the forces use. Even in the areas you'd expect to be the best of the best its not. Too caught up in contractual politics "you never specified that in your original order...".

Is it right that the Met office has several completely seperate clones of those old crays? Must have cost a fortune in its day. I'm sick of being on the customer/user side of it all, want to get on the other side where the money is. Hopefully I can get work with some of these companies. I'd like to do the contracting, don't mind not having the stability if the money is right.

but you have to know your stuff, and be able to field repair and replace s.m.t components and optical relays, splicing etc..

 

Hat's off to you there, replacing s.m.t. components in the field can't be too easy!

When I was back in england I was a Research & Development/Service engineer for Kawasaki. No, not the bikes but Hydraulics. Dam good job and I used to love it! Hopefully have a Job as a sales manager for a big American Hydraulic company out here in Canada. Just waiting for the Visa to be processed.

Is there plenty of work possibilities for you in Canada?

well magnavox was bought out by hughes electronics a while ago, and they also own raytheon.

 

now the uk use old magnavox systems for intel and tracking and comms etc, but the systems are shit.

 

as far i a can remember in the next 4-5 years the uk forces will recieve a big shake up as these systems will no longer be supported under the magnavox/hughes legacy support agreement, then they have to buy new and re-train all the users.

 

 

on the mainframes i work on we use the following. COBOL, Assembler, Java, CICS, DB2, WebSphere, MQSeries, OS/390, System/390 and others, here is a good link if you want to read up on things..

 

http://www.oberoi-net.com/mainfrme.html