This is the passenger side. Notice filter thingy and ugly piping.

 

 

This is driver side. Again notice different filter the the passenger side???

 

 

This is the two filters open. Passengers side on the left drivers on the right.

 

 

The little filters are on only one side. No one seems to be able to tell me why.

 

 

This little filter is on both of them except the drivers side one has a little hole in it (purpose)

 

So i again phone crappy techiques. Speak to one of the guys who supposidly made the developed the kit this time. He was pleasent and all except, when i asked him why the difference.. he could not explain.

"the one side has to be free, otherwise it is not good" is not a good enough explanation im afraid.

He then said fax him all the questions i have and they will answer them for me??????

 

So i believe it is not them manufacturing this piece of abomination, they just copied it.??????

I will be developing a proper kit if anyone is interested. with proper catch tank and filter and braded hosing.

Not trying to throw spanner in the works, but that dotn look like £105 worth of kit to me.

oh and it dont work lol.

left the filters out today and had exactly the same ammount of smoke as when they are in ???

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Looks very similar to an early cozy one to me.

Harve you have hit the nail on the head!!

 

As soon as I saw the pics I recognised the oil seperators as Ford Sierra Cosworth items!! But here is the rub when I had my Cossy upgraded breather kits were available that replaced them because they caused heavy breathing!!! The idea is simple the answer not always that way.The requirement is to vent the crankcase pressure but not to let the oil heavy air directly out to air or through the inlet tract without removing the oil particals swept up in it, ie an oil seperator.Quite a lot of polished and anodised cyliders with seperators were and are still available and can be used to better ends than the kit pictured above,full oil returns to the sump are required, this is easy on the zed as there are plugs in the sump casing that could be used,I made a system up on my Cossy using this method and it was successful in reducing oil consumption (a Cossy problem) and I surpose it could be used to some effect on the Zed, Hmmm ,Oh and the difference between the left and right side I think maybe someones idea that as it has a single sump but two plenums so one side is for the main oil seperation and one for improving recirculation by slowing down the speed of it but increasing the volume but of course the balancer tube throws this concept out of wack there should be two seperators both returning to the sump and a third adjustable recirc filter for tuning the air volume to match the engine tune and boost levels used.Thats my theory anyhow.

 

Jeff TT

Question.

Is it not just better to vent the breather to air? whats the point of putting warm oily air back into the intake it goes against all the principals of making power. Or do you need the vaccum to pull the oil vapour out?

Does the Z not have a PCV that only vents when required?

 

just curious

Paul

thanks for that jeff. Finnaly someone has been able to put forward a theory.

So lets say it like it is.

Is this bit of kit not correct? cause it dont work (for me)and alot of people have paid alot of money for it, and if it all goes wrong after everyone has baught it, i predict this forum will light up like KABUL on a nice winters evening

anyone who has owned a cossie will tell you that the oil breather kit on the z is not a patch compared to the bailey motorsport one for the cossie in looks or performance not only was it an all alloy constuction but the catch tank that took away the nasty residue have an oil can like level indicater built in so you knew when to empty it.....you gotta bear in mind the oil breather kits on a z are not fully tested and still some peeps say they arent needed but i think they are

Not fitted mine yet....would be very interested to know what technics....say about all this....unusual them not seeming to know what the scooby is going on....hate to think throwing £100 odd quid away..this time of year!!!!

 

Regardz

I found one of the grey units on my likle pug 309

 

Warren, these kits work if your turbos are fucked If there's nothing to catch then there's no improvement

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

HMMMMM! Andy so does that mean that all the guys who have bought these kit's should have bought new turbo's instead?

 

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huh?

so why isint it working on my car then????

 

Well Warren,If you are smoking at the rear,and the breather kit ain't working,maybe it is your engine GULP! .

 

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This kit will prolong the life of a turbo that would otherwise need replacing due to blue smoke... Warren - what you are seeing is nothing to worry about

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

Andy make no mistake whet your turbos are kicking smoke out,they are on their last legs and the only way to cure this 100% is to replace them,There is nothing magic about a breather kit,IT DOES NOT REPAIR THE SEALS! it is only a temparary measure!dont be fooled.

 

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But if a turbo is smoking it hasn't necessarily had all the life drained from it. Its just passing a bit of oil into the engine. You don't need too much oil to make a lot of smoke.... This is where the breather kit works - by stopping the smoke and letting you get the most out of your turbos....

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGG! I am not saying that the turbo has had all the life drained from it,You can still get good boost from a smoking turbo,What I am saying is when they start to smoke, it is the start of them getting tired they ain't going to get better CLEAR or not?

 

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Ian - were both saying the same thing - just with different words - must be the accent

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

He He it was good though they all must of thought this thread was going to explode

BUT ANYWAY where was I,Ok our friend Smithy I think was one of the first to fit one of these breather kits many months ago,He is smoking quite bad so he fits the kit,and WOW no smoke .So why has his turbos just been replaced because they were FU**ED I rest my case .BREATHER KITS WILL ONLY TEMPORARILY STOP THE SMOKE.

 

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As for you Warren,If your arse end is smoking and you have just fitted a breather kit,and it is still smoking .Could it be that your engine is getting tired?

 

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mac the engine has 5000 miles on it.

I suspect not.

 

Here we go again.

What do you mean by here we go again?I asked a simple question was not having a dig,I dont know how many miles you done or when you got it rebuilt .

 

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The kit I got from Grasshopper works just fine. I had it installed profesionally and they made a much neater job with the pipework.

It is cheap compared to new turbo's.

Upgrading turbo's leads you down a never ending spiral of expense. One I will go down when I can afford the full monty!

lol mac i was implying for me. Another large dose of money for me to spend.

I am very fast becoming eriously despondant at the running costs ofthese cars.

 

And bill can you show us some pics, cause i had mine installed by duffman and im sure he wont be to impressed by what you said

Warren sounds like yer engine is about to expire mate! Should have gone to SE! LOL

 

Didn't you get it rebuilt by an Italian Stallion version of Nelson by the way? That would explain everything! Just think all them Fiats and Lancias, bet they hardly ever see a Micra nevermind a 300ZX!!! ROFL

 

Mate, which bit of the above Englais don't you comprehend??? Even I know this, if your turbos are on the way out and smoking 40 B&H a day a breather kit isn't gonna make much difference is it?

 

Come on! FFS you and Duffman raz them cars down drag strips, track days, dynos and generally cain the fuck outta them! What do you expect fella?

 

As for the running costs issue? Makes me laugh this, coz when I was bleating on about these cars from the very early Timmy Turbo days diary I was getting "Oh but they're sooooo reliable, you must have bought a duffer!" bollox is all I can say to that then!!! Face it mate, life stinks and if you want a near on 200mph car then accept the fact that they fuckin' BREAK! Quite regularly in fact!

Just for the record on this kit perlava, i was smoking for england before i fitted the kit, once fitted it improved things by 99%, a little smoke now and again, after serious thrashing around a race track and a few months later, car was sent for new turbo's to be fitted, cos i knew the kit was only buying me time in helping prevent a problem getting worse, my engine was NEW at a cost of nearly £7,000 only 36,000 mls earlier, BUT the previous owner had a boost upgrade done after 20,000 mls, it was at 35,000mls an aftermarket boost gauge was fitted and i was alarmed to see 18 to 19psi, whilst engine was out oil was found to be leaking from everywhere, strip down revealed mashed rings, turbo's were fooked yes, but smoke was mainly caused by the rings, so yet another rebuild was done and at long last is now finished, seen my baby today, so even a rebuilt engine, if it has run high boost can have problems, which this breather kit cannot control, so if you have or are going to de-cat, change exhaust system,run higher boost, then for the price, try the kit !

could be a bit less tacky in apperance, BUT it does work, smithy

p.s my kit is now for sale, as i had race spec seals fitted to stage 3 tubo's.

FFS! Thank god you said that, can we all make up now?