A while back I recieved a speeding fine and I did the old trick of getting the wife to fill the details in and me not sign it.

 

Today I have recieved a summons that goes like this:-

 

1. On 06/11/04 on the A610 Road at nottingham, you drove a motor vehicle namely a motor car TBZ7353 on the restricted namely the A610 road at a speed exceeding 30 MPH. Contrary to sections 81(1) and 89(1) of the Road traffic regulation act 1984 and the schedule 2 to the road traffic offenders act 1988.

 

2. Between 16/12/04 and 17/01/05

at Arnold Nottinghamshire, you having been required by or on behalf of the chief officer of the police for Nottinghamshire failed to give information which it was in your power to give and which might have led to the identification of the driver of a vehicle, namely a motor car TBZ7375, who was alledged to have been guilty of an offence, contrary to section 172(3) of the road traffic act 1988 and schedule 2 to the road traffic offenders act 1988.

 

 

Right then, today is the first time I have been told about part 2. Should they not have informed me about this before, and how much of the above can they get to stick? and if I'm completely honest, I don't remember thinking, "shit - I went too fast there". I know that the lack of signature thing has now been quashed and you can't use it but I didn't know this at the time when I did it.

 

Can anyone suggest a way around this? or should I be asking for any evidence in the mean time?

 

 

Thanks in advance.

Cos

god damn buddy, i'd be careful. they know all the tricks nowadays and if they see you trying to pull a fast one on them they will come downalot harder. in a manner of speaking if you own up to speeding there is fixed penalty of 3 points and a fine but if you challenge it then they can inflict more points and a larger fine. i sounds to me that there are gunna do you for speeding then gunna have you for with holding evidence ie signiture. if i was you i would go in and say i never realised i was speeding and but i must have been and also the sgniture thing was a genuine accident and you are willing to hold ya hands up to the offence.

 

i know i must sound like a real kill joy, but i would rather stomach the 3 points and take it on the chin than have the risk of further charges. the trouble being they will have pictures of ya car at the time the time it happened so so in that respect you haven't got a leg to stand on really.

 

sorry :(

A while back I recieved a speeding fine and I did the old trick of getting the wife to fill the details in and me not sign it.

 

Today I have recieved a summons that goes like this:-

 

1. On 06/11/04 on the A610 Road at nottingham, you drove a motor vehicle namely a motor car TBZ7353 on the restricted namely the A610 road at a speed exceeding 30 MPH. Contrary to sections 81(1) and 89(1) of the Road traffic regulation act 1984 and the schedule 2 to the road traffic offenders act 1988.

 

2. Between 16/12/04 and 17/01/05

at Arnold Nottinghamshire, you having been required by or on behalf of the chief officer of the police for Nottinghamshire failed to give information which it was in your power to give and which might have led to the identification of the driver of a vehicle, namely a motor car TBZ7375, who was alledged to have been guilty of an offence, contrary to section 172(3) of the road traffic act 1988 and schedule 2 to the road traffic offenders act 1988.

 

 

Right then, today is the first time I have been told about part 2. Should they not have informed me about this before, and how much of the above can they get to stick? and if I'm completely honest, I don't remember thinking, "shit - I went too fast there". I know that the lack of signature thing has now been quashed and you can't use it but I didn't know this at the time when I did it.

 

Can anyone suggest a way around this? or should I be asking for any evidence in the mean time?

 

 

Thanks in advance.

Cos

 

 

not sure how they could have informed you of part 2, when THEY didn't know about it until they received your unsigned form back, as capnburn says i would hold your hands up to the ticket, and blag you were away and your wife filled the form in in good faith (not understanding it;) )

 

would be hard to prove you failed to give information when you didn't fill in the form

What would happen if you said you can't remember whether it was you or your wife driving at the time of the incident?

then the registered owner of the vehicle would take a huge hit from a high height. they would come down on ya like a ton of bricks. there was an incident some time ago where a unmarked police car was could on speed camera. the department said they didn't know who was driving the vehicle at the time so the whole department took a fine oh around tens of thousands of pounds if i remeber right. but in the publics case all responsability for a vehicle falls on the shoulders of the registered owner. so as i said i would hold my hands up.

ww.pepipoo.com have a good read through - loads of useful information to be had in the forums to.

 

Simon

if you have a friend in a garage or motor business this worked for me once but im pretty sure it would be a single shot trick you couldnt use it again

 

plead guilty but say you did not know what speed you were doing but it wasnt excessive and you were just keeping pace with other road users ,as your speedo cable / sensor had just broken prior to the incident and you had taken it the same day to be repaired before heading home as you were 90% into the journey and nearer the garage than the safety of the home where a repair could have been done off the road , have your friend write a receipt dated and timed just after the incident and CLUE him up as the piggies might come a snorting and an oinking to verify your story

with him. ......

 

its only up to their good will that they may let you off as they did me ..worth a try if you can get some help from a dealer

Point 1, put ya hands up.....and take the fine.

Point 2, If they didnt recieve the infomation asked for ie the ticket back from you, then you will be done for failing to give the information which it was in your power to give and which might have led to the identification of the driver of a vehicle. So it will come down to the registered owner of the car.

Point 3, if you state it was someone else and they have evidence it was you then be prepared for a very heavy fine, oooh and i mean heavy.

Point 1, put ya hands up.....and take the fine.

Point 2, If they didnt recieve the infomation asked for ie the ticket back from you, then you will be done for failing to give the information which it was in your power to give and which might have led to the identification of the driver of a vehicle. So it will come down to the registered owner of the car.

Point 3, if you state it was someone else and they have evidence it was you then be prepared for a very heavy fine, oooh and i mean heavy.

ive said it once and ill say it again thats the *****cks im getting a swb hands down

ive said it once and ill say it again thats the *****cks im getting a swb hands down

:rofl: Thanks for that bud,

But i dont help Cos get off his fine.....:x:

Point 1, put ya hands up.....and take the fine.

Point 2, If they didnt recieve the infomation asked for ie the ticket back from you, then you will be done for failing to give the information which it was in your power to give and which might have led to the identification of the driver of a vehicle. So it will come down to the registered owner of the car.

Point 3, if you state it was someone else and they have evidence it was you then be prepared for a very heavy fine, oooh and i mean heavy.

I agree with sgt c just put your hands up and admit it was you and take the fine and the three points. When ever i get caught speeding i always think to myself can i blagg it then your mates suggest all these little un proven scams like not signing the form or sending a cheque for a couple of pence over the fine amount so it cannot be cashed. But at the end of the day this is the polices income where talking about here and i am sure they have experienced and know all the tricks in the book.Its a pain in the ass but i just pay up get the points and think agh well **** it, drive slowly for a few days then get caught speeding again. Thats life. :headvswal :headvswal

cheers guys - I'll sleep on!

Think there used to be ways round this yrs ago, the plod

have got stricter now though! Best accept the fine and be

done with it! I've just got 3pts & £60 aswell (45 in a 30),

if it makes you feel any better! ;)