Just look at these two motors that were done in at Japfest at the weekend:(

 

 

 

 

Noooooo! Track days are not worth it in a lardy episode like the Z, however, in an MR-2 Turbo you are laffin!!! LMFAO

 

Let's face it, the MR-2 had the perfect setup, mid-engined, room in the boot for a picnic should one desire.

 

FFS! You can't even get a putter in the back end of a Z! LMFAO

 

Look don't get me wrong, I love me Z but at the end of the day I love my MR-2 aswell and at the end of the day...the MR-2 goes like stink...the Z? Just goes from garage to garage! ROFL...looks nice though! ;)

Pmsl. :)

I would do a proper track day but not a national clowns stock car smash up event.

 

Oh and you are a cheeky pratt :nono:

 

LMFAO

 

Aiiiiiii!

 

MR-2 Hooligans doing it big stylee! LOL

 

Let's face it, the MR-2 had the perfect setup, mid-engined, room in the boot for a picnic should one desire.

 

nearly as pefect as a GT4 :dance:

nearly as pefect as a GT4 :dance:

 

LMFAO, yeah baby! Yeah! :)

 

However, you might wanna check on the transit progress of yer new pride and joy bud. Adam is right, black is doomed! Just hope yours isn't sat at the bottom off the coast of Singapore at this present moment in time bud. ;)

I tell ya, didnt i fookin shit when i heard the news, luckily it wasnt my boat PHEW!!!!!

I tell ya, didnt i fookin shit when i heard the news, luckily it wasnt my boat PHEW!!!!!

 

LOL

 

Nice one bud, still on course then! Just the Cape to get past now then...good luck! LMFAO :)

The perp fesses up...

 

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=329893&page=1&pp=20

 

I could real off 100's of excuses why it wasn't my fault

But it was quite simply a bad misjudment of the entry into the corner and poor driver control on my behalf on the exit I failed to remove the opposite lock quick enough. I had full power on so once the front wheels regained grip, it drove the car where the wheels were pionting at the Tyre wall but this was the first time understeer wasn't the problem

 

...which I do believe was what me and Duffer said the problem was!

Has any one actually read some of the posts. He said.....

 

I did find a slight flick and a little oversteer was quite benificial

 

So he was trying to get the back out. He also said he was experimenting finding how well the car performed. Experimenting with what? Laws of physics, seeing if he can go round a corner without needing to use his brakes?

 

He also said he did it in the safety of a track. No thought that he could have killed his passenger or took out another car along the way.

 

Thing is, i think if he managed to get the car back under control (most probably by pure luck) he would think it was great and he was a fantastic driver and try to do it again.

Has any one actually read some of the posts. He said.....

 

 

 

So he was trying to get the back out. He also said he was experimenting finding how well the car performed. Experimenting with what? Laws of physics, seeing if he can go round a corner without needing to use his brakes?

 

He also said he did it in the safety of a track. No thought that he could have killed his passenger or took out another car along the way.

 

 

 

LOL Stu and you voted that you would go on the track along side that lot :confused: :rofl: :nono: :smw:

No. I did not say that.

 

TBH I would not class that as a track day. It was a car festival with a track. Track days are completely different.

No. I did not say that.

 

TBH I would not class that as a track day. It was a car festival with a track. Track days are completely different.

 

No it was a track day same as Trax and was advertised as that. :slap:

 

 

It was not a demolition derby day either,but may aswell have been.

 

I wouldnt call trax a track day. Again its a car show at a race track.

Lets look at the difference between what you call a track day and what I call a track day

 

Trax, features are: (According to website)

 

THUMPING ICE

MOBLE ROLLING ROAD

ADRENALINE RIDES

Sony Playstation

Entertainment support from leading motoring magazines incjuding, Revs, Redline, Max Power, Fast Car, Fast Ford, Total Vauxhall and Total Car audio

 

Now from that list of features are you more likely to attract sensible track day people or ****ers? I cant see how Adrenaline rides or Sony Playstations will attract proper track dayers. Sounds more like pre 16 year olds. And "THUMPING ICE" again who are you going to attract.

 

Look at the magazines associated with it, all boy racer mags.

 

As for Japfest, look at the photos on the sitem of blinged out cars with half naked women on them. Again which type of person is that likely to draw.

 

How much are these shows? Not as much as a track day I feel, again more likely to draw in people who want a cheap go round a track.

I wouldnt call trax a track day. Again its a car show at a race track.

 

LMFAO :)

 

Yeah, where cars are allowed to use the Track...so what would that be then? A Track day! LMFAO :)

Oh and a 0-60 sprint where anyone can enter aswell, evey guys in Metro's FFS! LMFAO :)

 

Stu, have you ever been to Trax? It's probably one of the best car shows of the year! I've been for the last two years and it will probably be the only show I attend again this year. :tongue:

Lets look at the difference.

 

Days like TRAX and Japfest.

Where the main attraction are "Thumping ICE", women walking round ready to pose on your car to make you feel special, playstations to play racing game on because for some reason high scores on GT impress some people, traders so you can buy your under car neons and you can pay £25 to have a sessions on the track and drive like a dick. Look at thier websites, not 1 place does it advertise itself as a "track day"

 

A proper track day:

You pay your money in advanced. A limited number of cars can book onto the track and a limited number are allowed on the track at once. There are no traders, bitches thinking you want them lying over your car, no "Thumping ICE", no "ADRENALINE RIDES" or Sony Playstations. Just people who pay more money to get on a track, and are there ready to drive on a track. Not people who thought "I'll have a go"

Lets look at the difference.

 

Days like TRAX and Japfest.

Where the main attraction are "Thumping ICE", women walking round ready to pose on your car to make you feel specialSo you are saying you are gay then? Come out mate, Todd has on Corrie! LOL, playstations to play racing games on because for some reason high scores on GTbit vague bud, which GT PS game are you on about? impress some people, traders so you can buy your under car neonsWoooo bud, don't wanna accuse GPS or any other reputable tuner of only selling neon kits bud! and you can pay £25I would say that to drive around the same circuit that F1 drivers tackle on an annual basis is a bit of an insult to be honest, I'm sure the cost of that particular TRACK DAY is over a hundred squids! But then you never been so you wouldn't know that would ya? to have a sessions on the track and drive like a dick. Look at thiertheir websitesare you dickslexic bud, not 1 place does it advertise itself as a "track day"So not in the theme title then? TRAX? LMFAO

 

A proper track day:

You pay your money in advanced. A limited number of cars can book onto the track and a limited number are allowed on the track at onceSounds like what happens at TRAX to me! ROFL. There are no traders, bitches thinking you want them lying over your cartoo right, you want them on yer main fella bud! LMFAO, no "Thumping ICE", no "ADRENALINE RIDES" or Sony Playstations. Just people who pay more money to get on a track, and are there ready to drive on a track. Not people who thought "I'll have a go"

 

ROFLMFAO :)

 

You must be a gay, boring f\/cker then Stu...personally I would rather watch paint dry than goto a boring track day than have the choice between bitches, PS/2, Top Tuning companies and proper ICE installers aswell as having the pleasure of watching some of the most highly tuned and exotic metal going round one of the most famous circuits in racing history! LMFAO :)

 

OK, I see yer point! ROFL :)

I am sorry I didnt give more detail about the PS GT game. I started to lose interest in PS games when I was 16 and I started to get a life. I am sure it will happen to you to when you reach puberty.

 

Personally I would rather drive round a track than watch Subarus trying to drift round corners like a ****er. But thats the difference, I would rather do, you like to watch. You also like to watch cars while they are parked up with the bonet open, with every engine part polished to fuel their narcissistic ego. I get bored of that very quickly.

 

£25 to have a go on a track is going to attract ****ers. As for the cost of going on Silverstone, what you want to know? It just shows you know NOTHING about track days. The costs varies depending on the time of year and how many people are allowed on and whether its an open or closed pit. But I am sure you won't really know that because you have never looked into it as you are happy at TRAX. But a Silverstone track day will range from £200 to over £500.

However it is true, I have never been on a track day but I have been to watch a few.

 

 

As for the traders. Are you telling me out of all the traders at TRAX and Japfest, not 1 of them was selling any neon product? There maybe some reputable ones there, but I bet the where out numbered.

 

As for exotic cars going round a track. A proper track day was on the 1st June at Oulton Park (one of the best tracks in this country) and to give you a small sample of the cars there,

 

Several Caterhams and Westfields,

2 x Ferrari 360

Ferrari 355F1

Porsche 911 GT2

2 x Porsche 966 Turbo,

Porsche 964,

Ultima GTR,

2 x BMW M3,

Lancia Delta EVO (And this one will piss on any Z around this track)

Nissan 240Z

 

And these are only the cars who booked on the internet, you cant see the cars which phoned and booked.

 

I think I know which ones I would rather go and watch, Subaru or Ferrari? Honda 2000 or Ulitma GTR? Skyline or Porsche 966 Turbo? Hmmmmmmmm?

 

As for the professional ICE installers. Again difference. Serious track day goers take out their radios and speakers to same weight to gain performance going round a track. TRAX people have competitions on how much they can output before the altinator burns out. Again a huge difference between the 2 events and the people who go to these events.

LMFAO :)

 

Stu you really are on one bud, you dropped a valve on yer foot or summat? :)

 

Listen mate, how can you comment on something that you have NEVER experienced?

 

Can you answer the following simple questions for me?

 

1. Have you ever been to a 300ZX.co.uk meet further than 100 miles from where you live?

 

2. Have you ever attended Billing JAE?

 

3. Have you ever attended TRAX?

 

4. Have you ever attended Max Power Live?

 

5. Have you ever attended a proper track day? (LOL)

 

6. Have you ever attended anything?

 

Say no more IMHO! Typical example of someone spouting off about something they know f\/ck all about! FFS! Even Clarkey has been to Billing and he can't even drive, so when you have been to a show and not just read what you want in the jazz mags come back and we'll talk again eh? ;)

Woooah! Calm down!!!! :nono: :D :D

 

Isn't the real question whether it is a proper track day and a blast around the trackday?

 

I would never go on track at Japfest for the following reasons:

No segmentation by ability of drivers

No guarantee of segmentation by car performance

No sighting laps

Insufficient familiarisation time

Poor run-offs

Insufficient time on track anyway

Poor instruction

Limited marshalling (has any EVER been black-flagged at Japfest?)

 

I did go on track at TRAX last year. However, this was in a Skyline-only session and there was a meeting of all the drivers first (outside of the briefing). To be fair it was very pedestrain, but that only serves to prove my point about these sort of events. For what it's worht we wont be taking part at this year's TRAX.

 

A proper track day will have all the following

Full briefing

Sighting laps (I have known up to 5 to take place)

Short initial sessions to give everyone a chance to familiarise themselves

Segmentation by ability (cars and drivers)

Marshalls who apply the rules strictly but fairly

Rebriefing if necessary

Time! - the single most critical factor: Go out, do a few laps, come in, discuss some key pioints with others. Have a break. Go out, do a few laps.............. If by 1pm you still haven't really got to grips with the track there is still plenty of time left!

 

- - - - -

Are track days worth it? - Properly organised/run events: Yes

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=20027

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=18544

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=22462

 

Are 15 minute track sessions at motor-fairs worth it? - No.

2 cars crashed at Japfest in 2003

3 cars crashed at Japfest in 2004

Woooah! Calm down!!!! :nono: :D :D

 

Isn't the real question whether it is a proper track day and a blast around the trackday?

 

I would never go on track at Japfest for the following reasons:

No segmentation by ability of drivers

No guarantee of segmentation by car performance

No sighting laps

Insufficient familiarisation time

Poor run-offs

Insufficient time on track anyway

Poor instruction

Limited marshalling (has any EVER been black-flagged at Japfest?)

 

I did go on track at TRAX last year. However, this was in a Skyline-only session and there was a meeting of all the drivers first (outside of the briefing). To be fair it was very pedestrain, but that only serves to prove my point about these sort of events. For what it's worht we wont be taking part at this year's TRAX.

 

A proper track day will have all the following

Full briefing

Sighting laps (I have known up to 5 to take place)

Short initial sessions to give everyone a chance to familiarise themselves

Segmentation by ability (cars and drivers)

Marshalls who apply the rules strictly but fairly

Rebriefing if necessary

Time! - the single most critical factor: Go out, do a few laps, come in, discuss some key pioints with others. Have a break. Go out, do a few laps.............. If by 1pm you still haven't really got to grips with the track there is still plenty of time left!

 

- - - - -

Are track days worth it? - Properly organised/run events: Yes

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=20027

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=18544

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=22462

 

Are 15 minute track sessions at motor-fairs worth it? - No.

2 cars crashed at Japfest in 2003

3 cars crashed at Japfest in 2004

 

I think that sums it all up in a nutshell really.

 

Time to close this thread before Timmy goes off on another one I think.

:nono:

 

Tim

I'll add a final word on a positive note.

 

I watched most of the days racing at japfest and I can honestly say that the best driving was from the early morning Zed brigade.

 

We had 2x 300's out there who were giving it some, but still well in control. The 350Z was also not taking any risks and quite rightly so. The 240/260 boys were driving a bit harder, but not one twitch from their real wheel drive motors. All credit to the different generations of zeds out there on the day- and not a scooby or skyline in sight- so ave-a-go track days are really worth it if you're a zed driver, driving with zeds only! :cool:

Timmy I have been to a meeting more than a hundred miles away, 3 infact. As I remember you where meant to goto 1 but your window didnt work or some lame excuse.

 

No I havent been to JAE, but what has that got to do with it?

 

No I havent been to TRAX dont want too.

 

I haven't gone to Max Power live, and again I dont want to. I am sure you do.

 

I have gone to a few track days actually.

 

Have I attended anything? What the hell does that mean? Yeah I go to car shows, rallies track days. You? Anything where the main feature is the cars performance?

...Time to close this thread before Timmy goes off on another one I think.

:nono:

 

Tim

 

ROFLMFAO :)

 

Some things never change eh? :) ;)