http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13046813,00.html

I like the fact that excessive speeds doesnt mean going over the limit. If you bump some one on a icy or snowy road, that will be down to excessive speed even though you could have been doing 15mph at the time.

 

However the government will not act upon this because Blair is never wrong and it must be the official finding which are wrong, because he knows better.

I remember a guy getting done for speeding a year or two back for doing 27 in a 30 zone because it was near a school. Seem to remember he got a jail sentence too !

what? you sure about that?

what? you sure about that?

 

Definitely - I wish I wasn't !

 

I think he hit a kid and they did him for driving above a safe speed, although he was still under the speed limit :xxx:

 

I'm all for sticking to the speed limit on housing estates and near schools but they should teach kids not to play on roads rather than prosecute drivers for driving below the speed limit !

Struggling to find the original story, but here's the link to the ACPO's decision to charge people with dangerous or careless driving even if they're under the 30mph limit.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/848464.stm

Good, I'm all for DD and DWDC, more convictions please!

 

In fact you could nick 50% of the drivers outside a school at 3:30pm. :-/

Good, I'm all for DD and DWDC, more convictions please!

 

In fact you could nick 50% of the drivers outside a school at 3:30pm. :-/

 

I think you may have misunderstood me mate - The guy got prosecuted for 'dangerous' driving although all he was doing was driving along at 27 when kids were about. They didn't claim he was driving eratically! We all take extra care around schools and keep the speed down but my point is if they want us to drive at 20 then they should put up a 20 limit, not prosecute people for driving under the posted speed limit.

 

They could cut accidents more easily by prosecuting more drivers (usually parents) who park on the road right outside the school entrance. Kids get run over because people can't see them, and they can't see the moving cars !

 

Like you I've got no problem with DD & DWDC, but only where it's warranted !

 

I'd be happy to have 20 limits near schools, and on busy estates, providing they put the motorway limit up to 80 to compensate.

I too dont drive fast past schools, how ever people with the children dont seem to bother about road safety.

 

The road is lined with cars on both sides even though there are double yellow lines and has the no stopping zig zag lines.

There is a lolly lop lady there out side of our local school for people to cross with, but about 50% of parents dont. They cant be bothered walking 30 yards the opposite direction to their car. They come out of school, walk up the path and then cross between parked cars. There is also traffic light crossing but again, they cant be bothered walking 30 yards in the other direction to cross at a saft place where cars will stop. For some reason they think trying to cross theselves and 2 small children between 2 parked cars is safe.

Dont even get me started on the people who have prams and push chairs who seem to think putting slightly in the road why they stand on the kirb is safe.

 

Its swings and roundabouts. A school is a dangerous place to cross. There are hundreds of people leaving when the road is at its busiest. If everything was in idea world, every one who needed to cross would use the crossings where they are seen, traffic will stop. But now driving down a road with a school on, inbetween every illegally parked parents car there could be some parent with a child who could walk out without looking.

 

We know it all happens as I bet its happened to every one of us, we are just lucky enough to notice them.

 

Stuart

Definitely - I wish I wasn't !

 

I think he hit a kid and they did him for driving above a safe speed, although he was still under the speed limit :xxx:

 

I'm all for sticking to the speed limit on housing estates and near schools but they should teach kids not to play on roads rather than prosecute drivers for driving below the speed limit !

 

I thikn it was also found 3 of his brakes were down to the metal and one was only 50% operational.

 

if its the same story i remember anyway

Dont even get me started on the people who have prams and push chairs who seem to think putting slightly in the road why they stand on the kirb is safe.

 

A mate of mine is a paramedic and they refer to mothers using pushchairs in this way as TDI's............ Traffic Density Indicators. If the push chair whips off 50 yards down the road on the front of a car.....it's not safe to cross! :rofl: :slap: :rofl: :rofl:

I thikn it was also found 3 of his brakes were down to the metal and one was only 50% operational.

 

if its the same story i remember anyway

 

 

Not sure that was the same case, but if it was then yes, he deserved prosecution !

I think I did misunderstand a bit then... but I too was having a dig at the clueless school runners / parkers!

 

Stu, I hope you're not implying you drive really really slowly past schools with the targas off posing... there's a DIFFERENT set of laws against that. ;) But 20 limits past schools, yeah... and do I dimly remember that was in a white paper recently?