Quick question if the above error codes are permantly present I presume that the car will be in permanent safety boost

 

34 = det sensor

42 = Fuel temp circuit

 

Ryan

the 34 code will trigger it.

You got more problems with your car bud?

You got more problems with your car bud?

LOL nah not mine , someones I was looking at last night , that has just had a boost upgrade done with Bleed valves etc , But I just needed to know if this will keep the ECU thinking it was in Safety boost even if the car was running 12ish PSI with the bleed valves . does that make any sense :rolleyes:

LOL, sort of :D

Hi guys - it was my car (yes, with bleed valves - nice exhaust though) that Ryan was looking at. So safety mode doesn't necessarily restrict it to 7psi (because mine defintiely rose after the induction kit was put in, then further after exhaust/chip was put in - all with 34 code permanent). From reading previous threads on safety mode, the original conclusion was that, amongst other things (like retarding the timing), the PSI was reduced to 7psi. Is it actually the case that the boost is actually lowered a bit, rather than specifically to 7psi? If this is the case, then regarding boost, my car is not in a stock safety mode (as it's likely to be closer to 12 psi at the moment, though cannot prove this as yet). Based on this, would the safety aspect then only be the other things like retarding of timing?

 

Sorry to sound confused (I'm not techy), but although it appears certain I'm in "Safety mode" (code 34) I'm still not entirely sure what the safety is implying.

 

Great forum by the way, and cheers Ryan for looking at my car twice (and slating it twice ;-))

 

Roll on the next rolling road...

 

Monty

Hi guys - it was my car (yes, with bleed valves - nice exhaust though) that Ryan was looking at. So safety mode doesn't necessarily restrict it to 7psi (because mine defintiely rose after the induction kit was put in, then further after exhaust/chip was put in - all with 34 code permanent). From reading previous threads on safety mode, the original conclusion was that, amongst other things (like retarding the timing), the PSI was reduced to 7psi. Is it actually the case that the boost is actually lowered a bit, rather than specifically to 7psi? If this is the case, then regarding boost, my car is not in a stock safety mode (as it's likely to be closer to 12 psi at the moment, though cannot prove this as yet). Based on this, would the safety aspect then only be the other things like retarding of timing?

 

Sorry to sound confused (I'm not techy), but although it appears certain I'm in "Safety mode" (code 34) I'm still not entirely sure what the safety is implying.

 

Great forum by the way, and cheers Ryan for looking at my car twice (and slating it twice ;-))

 

Roll on the next rolling road...

 

Monty

 

LOL I did not slate your car Steve actually the gearbox is good the wheels are nice and the exhaust sounds neat.

 

my concern was that you are running in safety boost and when your car was set up, it was set up using the stock gauge using two bleed valves , now the question was/is even though you are running 12psi is it still possible to be in Safety boost

 

Where's Duff when you need him

What you need is a nice boost controller, funnily enough there is a group buy going on at the moment, get yourself subscribed and start saving.

What you need is a nice boost controller, funnily enough there is a group buy going on at the moment, get yourself subscribed and start saving.

you working on commisson again Mike :nono: :slap: :rofl:

LOL I did not slate your car Steve actually the gearbox is good the wheels are nice and the exhaust sounds neat.

 

my concern was that you are running in safety boost and when your car was set up, it was set up using the stock gauge using two bleed valves , now the question was/is even though you are running 12psi is it still possible to be in Safety boost

 

Where's Duff when you need him

 

 

Yes unless these are unpluged.

ok lets ask this question another way, what happens with a car that has boost jets or bleed valves fitted that then goes in to safety boost , does the boost drop to 7psi or does it drop a couple of psi from what the boost jets have been running at i.e 12psi

ok lets ask this question another way, what happens with a car that has boost jets or bleed valves fitted that then goes in to safety boost , does the boost drop to 7psi or does it drop a couple of psi from what the boost jets have been running at i.e 12psi

 

It will drop to 7psi. :tongue:

Dont take what the stock boost gauge says,you need an aftermarket one fitted for a reliable display.

It will drop to 7psi. :tongue:

OK so how does a car that is in safety boost because of code 34 run 12 psi Iain ???????? :tongue:

Dont take what the stock boost gauge says,you need an aftermarket one fitted for a reliable display.

I know that :rolleyes: but that's not the question :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;)

I know that :rolleyes: but that's not the question :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;)

 

No but how can you tell what boost it is running if you are reading the stock gauge?

Does it drop to 7psi? Well that depends on whether its got boost jets or bleed valves ;) Boost jets then YES it will drop to 7psi. Bleed valves should have had new pipework installed from intake to actuator which will remove the stock boost solenoids, thereby eliminating the function of safety boost. *IF* the stock solenoids were left in place then it would be very difficult to set the boost levels. However it is possible that this was done, so then they would lower the boost by a percentage, difficult to say what it would actaully be though.

 

Boost increased when you fitted induction and exhaust? Doubt it tbh ;) The boost level is controlled by the actuators on the turbos and is completely independent of exhaust and intake flow (to an extent ;))...

 

Sounds like the old problem of bad connections to me - although the det sensor connection may not be so easy to cure ;)

Does it drop to 7psi? Well that depends on whether its got boost jets or bleed valves ;) Boost jets then YES it will drop to 7psi. Bleed valves should have had new pipework installed from intake to actuator which will remove the stock boost solenoids, thereby eliminating the function of safety boost. *IF* the stock solenoids were left in place then it would be very difficult to set the boost levels. However it is possible that this was done, so then they would lower the boost by a percentage, difficult to say what it would actaully be though.

 

Boost increased when you fitted induction and exhaust? Doubt it tbh ;) The boost level is controlled by the actuators on the turbos and is completely independent of exhaust and intake flow (to an extent ;))...

 

Sounds like the old problem of bad connections to me - although the det sensor connection may not be so easy to cure ;)

 

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy for Mr Duff

 

Ok so the solenoids are still connected but the pipe from the intake to the actuator as been cut and teed to lead in to the bleed valves. so am I right in thinking that with code 34 you are defo in safety boost ???

 

Ryan

Boost defintely increased when adding the induction kit. Sure - an after market boost gauge will be better, but the stock one for me has always been consistent (regardless of the actual value). With the induction kit, it went up about 1/3 of a segment. The stock boost solenoids were not removed.

Hi Ryan,

 

A Iain keeps asking, how is the boost being read? stock gauge? I know my stock gauge reads 12 psi when I am 100% sure I was running at 7psi. My gauge is seriously crap!!!!

 

Vijay

I'm starting to wonder where your boost guage is plumbed into :D Get a proper guage on there and find out what you are really running. 12psi with retarded ignition will probably have a fair bit less power than 9psi under normal conditions!!!

 

YES you will be in safety boost if you have code 34. Temp sender - that ones going to cause all sorts of fueling problems. Would I run a car at 12psi if the fueling wasn't spot on? No not really.....

Cheers Andy ,

 

Steve I have a boost gauge that we can rig up for short term measuring if you want to see what the car is actually putting out.

 

Ryan

Hi Ryan,

 

A Iain keeps asking, how is the boost being read? stock gauge? I know my stock gauge reads 12 psi when I am 100% sure I was running at 7psi. My gauge is seriously crap!!!!

 

Vijay

Vijay I agree that the stock gauge is crap and very unrealiable at best , this was just what Steve was informed that the car would be running so took it at face value , I have an aftermarket pressure gauge that can be rigged up in a few minutes so no probs there

 

Ryan

Hi Ryan,

 

A Iain keeps asking, how is the boost being read? stock gauge? I know my stock gauge reads 12 psi when I am 100% sure I was running at 7psi. My gauge is seriously crap!!!!

 

Vijay

 

 

Whey,someone else reads logic:D;)

Whey,someone else reads logic:D;)

:bow: :slap: :D

Ryan - temporary boost gauge sounds great. Cheers.

 

Let's get the drum rolling. My bet's that it's running about 12PSI. Any more takers? (Can't do that snazzy voting button thing).