I dont think deadlifting 330 Kilos helped! Anyone had any experience of this? All advice welcome.

 

I await the abuse!

 

Bring it on Ive got broad shoulders:D

I can't think why your deadlifting 330 kgs unless your thinking of turning your Zed into a wheelbarrow,I suppose your nuts match your shoulders now (large) Big Boy? :p :p :p

what type of hernia do you think you have got? I think average repair time after operation is about 2 months,

Ive had two hernia opperations when i was younger that was throgh playing football and doing loads of other sports,the only thing i can remember about it was waking up and having no PUBES.Dont think you will be lifting for a while Roy good luck mate

 

Marc;)

I have, about 8 years ago, the operation takes about an hour and they keep you in over night.

 

After that, it takes about a week to return to normal moving around, I wouldn't train on it for about a month, then build back up slowly over a couple of months.

 

You'll find you use your abs in all sort of excercises.

 

One word of warning though, how can I put this....

 

I woke up 'shaved' and painted orange !!!!!!

 

Hope it goes well for you.

 

 

Mike

Here you go Roy, I'm suprised you haven't read this already ;)

 

http://www.gayhealth.com/iowa-robot/network/ask/?record=478

 

Or is it one of these? http://www.hernia.org/masktoofar.gif

 

LMFAO! :D

 

Seriously though, hope all goes well mate.

My mate had one at the tender age of 20.

 

The funniest thing i recall is that he wasnt allowed to laugh (as this put pressure on it) so the doctors told bim to blow instead of laugh as that doesnt tense the body like laughing does. But when anything made us laugh he would have to blow, which made us laugh more, which made him blow more and so on.

 

Suppose you had to be there!

 

I'll get me coat.

Cheers Guys, Chris your only jealous cos Ive got more gears than you! LOL

 

So basically Im going to be bald, orange, blowing alot and no training for a month!

 

Sounds like an average stag night to me! :D

So does your 6 pack look like a 7 pack now?

You must be GUTTED! :D

 

LOL

1. Do lots of ab work when you are recovered. I don't but it might prevent a reoccurence and when lifting really heavy like you were, the needs are greater.

 

2. When unable to train normally, use the opportunity to develop hand/wrist/forearm strength as this can be easily isolated and performed sitting down....

 

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HTH

 

I hope you were wearing a lifting belt.

I hate lifting belts and gloves, I think they do more harm than good, they stop weak muscles from developing, when used in regular training.

 

Mike

Originally posted by Herman Munster

I hate lifting belts and gloves, I think they do more harm than good, they stop weak muscles from developing, when used in regular training.

 

Mike

 

This is a hotly debated topic. I've heard arguments from proponents from both sides. While open-minded, I think it's advisable to a wear lifting belt and knee straps on really heavy, maximum lifts. It's better to lose a tiny amount of muscle round your lower back than to have a slipped disk/bad back IMHO. Also, heavy squats can cause the walls of your midsection (at the front) to permanently bulge outwards - like a spring which has gone past it's elastic limit. So there are cosmetic and health reasons to wear lifting belts too.

 

The lower back is very vulnerable to injury because it has a very difficult job due to the fact we originally evolved on all fours and 'learnt' to walk upright.

 

wrt gloves - they merely aid grip and prevent your hands from becoming thickly padded calloused things !

Originally posted by Nelson MainFella

This is a hotly debated topic. I've heard arguments from proponents from both sides. While open-minded, I think it's advisable to a wear lifting belt and knee straps on really heavy, maximum lifts. It's better to lose a tiny amount of muscle round your lower back than to have a slipped disk/bad back IMHO. Also, heavy squats can cause the walls of your midsection (at the front) to permanently bulge outwards - like a spring which has gone past it's elastic limit. So there are cosmetic and health reasons to wear lifting belts too.

 

The lower back is very vulnerable to injury because it has a very difficult job due to the fact we originally evolved on all fours and 'learnt' to walk upright.

 

wrt gloves - they merely aid grip and prevent your hands from becoming thickly padded calloused things !

 

I agree, belts and straps should only be used for one-off maximun lifts, I seem to remember reading that the lower back takes the longest of any muscle to recover, but I don't think you should ever wear gloves, it just makes your grip crap, which will stop you training other parts to their maximun. Hell, if you grip is weak, try doing 2K on the rower with manimum resistance, as fast as you can. Works for me :), but then I have got calloused hands :D

I'm working on developing my hand/forearm/wrist strength. The heavy duty grippers I use are like sand paper, so gloves are necessary unless you want ripped-up hands - after a litle use one of my fingers had the skin pulled off at one point !. I think gloves stop your hands from slipping rather than increasing the strength available, so do not have much effect on hand strength development/impairment.

Originally posted by Nelson MainFella

I'm working on developing my hand/forearm/wrist strength. The heavy duty grippers I use are like sand paper, so gloves are necessary unless you want ripped-up hands. I think gloves stop your hands from slipping rather than increasing the strength available, so do not have much effect on hand strength development/impairment.

 

LOL, you could always try 'cracking one off' a few times a day, hang on, that would lead to an arm imbalance. :D:D:D

 

Seriously, just stick to doing compound excecises, everything else should develop fine.

 

Take it easy.

 

Mike

It's a large misnoma that bodybuilders/pwerlifters/strongmen have strong hands because of the weights they lift. You could even have strong forearmns and mediocre-to-weak hands. People who work with their hands lifting heavy items etc, will often have much stronger hands than your average bodybuilder.

 

You should read the book....Mastery of Hand Strength by John Brookfield. My goal is to close a No.3 gripper.

 

 

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Cheers,

Dave.

Q. What's the difference between pink and purple?

 

A. The grip:D

Originally posted by Nelson MainFella

It's a large misnoma that bodybuilders/pwerlifters/strongmen have strong hands because of the weights they lift. You could even have strong forearmns and mediocre-to-weak hands. People who work with their hands lifting heavy items etc, will often have much stronger hands than your average bodybuilder.

 

You should read the book....Mastery of Hand Strength by John Brookfield. My goal is to close a No.3 gripper.

 

 

http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/

 

Cheers,

Dave.

 

Well I din't know there was that much in it!

 

The goal, IMO, is got have enough grip to train the rest of you body effectively, I can’t see the point of just developing a V.Powerfull grip, what would you want to use it for, crushing cans? I suppose rolling a frying pan up makes for a neat party trick!

 

Mike

Originally posted by Herman Munster

I can’t see the point of just developing a V.Powerfull grip, what would you want to use it for

 

 

See above :D :D :D :D :eek:

I can’t see the point of just developing a V.Powerfull grip, what would you want to use it for, crushing cans? I suppose rolling a frying pan up makes for a neat party trick!

 

Mike [/b]

 

It all depends on what your goal is.....but strong hands are essential for arm wrestling..which many people see as an important measure of strength. Most people think big arms mean you will be good at arm wrestling, but they only play a secondary role. Technique is also critical.

Originally posted by x-biker

See above :D :D :D :D :eek:

 

LOL, Quality :D

 

Nelson / Dave

 

Just out of curiosity, what is you goal for all this training? Personally I do it because it's fun, and about the only form of exercise I enjoy, and so do regularly.

 

I maybe wrong here, if I am I'll apologise in advance, but you seem to have a need to 'prove yourself' all the time. You must me one competitive guy.

 

Are you very short by any chance. :D

 

Mike

Doesn't the length of your arm have something to do with it too? I seem to remember something about levers and fulcrums during physics lessons (although the Earth was still flat back then)

Originally posted by Herman Munster

Just out of curiosity, what is you goal for all this training? Personally I do it because it's fun, and about the only form of exercise I enjoy, and so do regularly.

 

I maybe wrong here, if I am I'll apologise in advance, but you seem to have a need to 'prove yourself' all the time. You must me one competitive guy.

 

Are you very short by any chance. :D

 

Mike

 

No, I'm 6 foot tall. I see it as self expression. I have a lot of passion and care greatly for many things. I therefore see my physical development and strength as a result and expression of my determination, skill (in training effectively and efficiently), passion and resilience etc. I also like the confidence it gives me to stand up to most people and not fear a good kicking. There are also many health and psychological benefits from weight training which many ppl don't realise, although there are pitfalls if you overdo your training.

 

I also find a developed body looks cool aesthetically and I am egocentric and feel it makes me look good. The Greeks worshipped a muscular developed body - have a look at classical greek statues. I do have insecurities which is perhaps also a large reason for doing weights, but I'm sure I would still train if I didn't have them.

 

Does that answer your question ?

 

Another thing - if you said "what's the point" to most things you would end up with very little to do. Haveing a strong body is analogous to having a powerful car - you pay a price for both (money or time/effort) but the feelings are the same.

 

 

Remember that strong body is not necessarily aggressive - it could just be used for good, ie. self defense/defense of others who are attacked etc..

'What's the point?' You enjoy it!, what else?

 

That works for most things, including the car.

 

If you are training for health, asthetic, confidence, the chalenge, and most of all FUN, cool.

 

If your training because you don't want a 'good kicking', it's not going to help much, it may give someone cause to think again if they challenge you directly, but your more likely to get blindsided by a bottle. I think boxing would be a better solution.

 

I'm sure MAC1 would be able to advice what works in the 'Real World'

 

Mike

Probably martial arts is the best solution - but strength counts for a lot - for a start it makes you faster and hopefully more flexible. It gives you muscular endurance, so you won't tire as quick. ever seen ultimate fighting - the amount of martial arts moves is minimal - they always end up grappling on the ground and the strongest has a distinct advantage. I think ultimate fighting is crazy BTW.

 

Even Bruce Lee did some weights because he recognised the benefits of strength. A strong muscle is faster than a weak one. I believe weights also give you good coordination of your limbs, so you are better able to move.

 

My 'advantage' is, I believe, that I am a lot stronger than I look (because I am not a huge build and have a fair bit of discretely packed on muscles and I train more for strength than size - ie. I do heavy lifts of only a few reps as well as sets and reps). I also don't go round in sleeveless shirts posing.

 

Maybe I should give a David Brent Motivational talk - whaddya all reckon ??;) :D

 

Maybe I should give a David Brent Motivational talk - whaddya all reckon ??;) :D [/b]

 

LOL, do you have 'Simply The Best' by Tina Turner? :D

 

Mike