hi guys, i am having bucket seats and 5 point harness installed in the new year, however i have nowhere to mount the harness, i know that a few people have done it to rear strut brace or rear seat belt anchor points but that's not for me, i would much rather have a half cage or 6/7/8 point cage, i ideally want to keep the rear seats in so my lads can still sit in the back any suggestions? or anyone got some pics of something similar? cant really find anything on the internet with people keeping rear seats in but i imagine 2 points would go to boot floor and a bar across?

Think you'll struggle if you want a harness bar, particularly as it was pointed out to me by the more experienced members the angle the harness mounts has to be right.

 

My cage is bolt in, maybe you could have the rear bar removable? I'd hope you wouldn't have people in the back whilst on track.

 

Here's my half cage, although it's in a swb so rear seats were irrelevant

 

There was a 5 point cage for sale on facebook this week if interested?

 

Also Ash, those recaros look really low compared to the standard seats! Never noticed that before. Can you tell a difference compared to stock?

Think you'll struggle if you want a harness bar, particularly as it was pointed out to me by the more experienced members the angle the harness mounts has to be right.

 

My cage is bolt in, maybe you could have the rear bar removable? I'd hope you wouldn't have people in the back whilst on track.

 

Here's my half cage, although it's in a swb so rear seats were irrelevant

 

 

thanks for replying :) it will be road legal aswell as on the track, i really need the rear seat for my lads as they like to come out with me in it and when i can pick them up from school (scores them points with there friends lol ,the design u could actually work if instead of the cross section 2 straight pieces going to the boot floor coming down from the top corners perhaps?

There was a 5 point cage for sale on facebook this week if interested?

 

Also Ash, those recaros look really low compared to the standard seats! Never noticed that before. Can you tell a difference compared to stock?

 

thats already sold missed out

The recaros are low because I'm very tall, so they are fixed to the floor without runners, otherwise I'd hit my head on the top of the cage in an accident. Which is worth thinking about with people sitting between the cage bars you need to make sure if the worst did happen there's no way anyone's head is hitting the bars,

Couple more pictures of the rear whilst it was being fitted modified

Hi mate who made the cage and what was the cost I would like one in my slicktop thanks .

I bought it off ebay second hand, turned out to be from jaffa on here, paid £50 for the full cage, then cost me 100 to have it modified into a half cage and to sit where I wanted it, sat too far forward and the harnesses bar was wrong.

 

Pretty strong cage, given how lethal my zed is at the moment it's nice knowing it's there.

Edited December 20, 20168 yr by (adl) phoenix

Roll cage and harnesses while retaining use of rear seats - Forget it. If you found a way to to still make it physically possible for somebody to get in the back with the cage and harness bar installed it would be a death trap should anything happen.

Unless you're building a dedicated track car, I see no real point in fitting a roll cage.....

Unless you're building a dedicated track car, I see no real point in fitting a roll cage.....

 

I wouldn't have a full cage on any road car (too dangerous without a helmet).

 

With a LWB the 4 point rear bar loses you the rear seats, but on a SWB a 4 point Rear roll bar setup is a worthy addition imo for a fast road car and occasional track toy. It has no negative effect on Driver/Passenger space or Road safety but provides additional safety, stiffens up the chassis, allowing the suspension to do its job better - which in turn improves handling and Ride comfort and provides harness attachment for occasional track day use.

Roll cage and harnesses while retaining use of rear seats - Forget it. If you found a way to to still make it physically possible for somebody to get in the back with the cage and harness bar installed it would be a death trap should anything happen.

 

thanks for the imput ive found a design thats safe a 7 point one with an extra bar accross the back like this my kids can sit in it no problem with no risk of hitting the bar should the worst happen and it roll https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_LM4hnsFpxw/hqdefault.jpg

thanks for the imput ive found a design thats safe a 7 point one with an extra bar accross the back like this my kids can sit in it no problem with no risk of hitting the bar should the worst happen and it roll https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_LM4hnsFpxw/hqdefault.jpg

 

 

The main hoop will be in front of the rear passengers, just behind the front seats and joins up with the rear Suspension turrets behind their heads. Which means those diagonal support bars will run straight through where their heads need to go unfortunately.

 

The bars look like they might be removable,cant properly see the attachments at the lower of the support bars, if so then you could unbolt it all , leaving just the main hoop in for when on the road.