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pics of the rear arch repair panels being welded in please

Gents does anyone have any pictures of the rear arch repair panels that are on ebay and zcenter

 

I want to do mine but would like to see what is involved, so if there are any pictures of the work being done welded in ect and cutting

would be greatly appreciated :)

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I've done some work on mine recently, I'll be uploading some photos of it soon.

 

I don't have anywhere near as many as in that link, but they are of a Z so might be some help.

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Thanks yes I've read all your thread on there, some awesome work there, how did you go about welding the rear arch was it one continuous run or was it spot by spot, any danger of the panel warping?

 

I've seen the repair panels but im a bit apprehensive of welding a continuous weld without the panel warping.

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I've done some work on mine recently, I'll be uploading some photos of it soon.

 

I don't have anywhere near as many as in that link, but they are of a Z so might be some help.

 

That would be great if you could upload some pictures, see what im up against

Thanks yes I've read all your thread on there, some awesome work there, how did you go about welding the rear arch was it one continuous run or was it spot by spot, any danger of the panel warping?

 

I've seen the repair panels but im a bit apprehensive of welding a continuous weld without the panel warping.

 

I went with single tacks on all panels, started with the initial ones to position the panel, then I tacked every inch or so, so as to firmly fix.

After that, I filled the gaps bit by bit moving from gap to gap as I went so as to avoid staying in one area.

The key is patience, any build up of heat needs to be avoided at all costs, otherwise the panel will distort I'm afraid.

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I went with single tacks on all panels, started with the initial ones to position the panel, then I tacked every inch or so, so as to firmly fix.

After that, I filled the gaps bit by bit moving from gap to gap as I went so as to avoid staying in one area.

The key is patience, any build up of heat needs to be avoided at all costs, otherwise the panel will distort I'm afraid.[/quote

 

Thanks for the advice :) slowly but surely sounds the key here im waiting to order a panel to get on with the repairs, I was hoping someone here had some pics

in progress, hopefully mightysi will have some to guide me forward :)

How rusty is youre arch ? id only change whats actually rusted as youll never get a better job than Nissan did,fitting a whole arch for 4" of rust is overkill.Trial fit your section over the top and use it like a stencil then cut away below the line on the car,youll need a joggler to step the bodywork where it attaches.Once your happy with the fit secure the section in with self tapping screws to hold it before spot welding,Do not spot continously or the heat will build up and warp the panel.Spots every say 3-4mm are fine to hold it securely.

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Looking inside my wheel arch it is rusted on the inside lip, your correct in saying just do the minimum

The inside has what it seems surface rust along the bottom lip i have removed the inner wing

Question is will this rust return if i rub it down and treat it?

There are a couple of other maybe inch long where it has rusted through, i would as you say prefer not to cut out a big section and just do the minimum its just the fear of the returning rust worries me

Id only change whats actually rusted as youll never get a better job than Nissan did.

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This is what I did, I couldnt get a joggler in to do the section I wanted to though, but if you can do that it does make the job a lot easier

Plenty of youtube videos on that subject.

 

Question is will this rust return if i rub it down and treat it?

Almost certainly, it might take a while to break through new paint over the top but it will happen after a while.

 

(I'll upload my pics tonight)

Link

 

Been a busy weekend, but I finally put a few photos up.

Hope they're some help but it does look like I had a bit less work to do than you...

Full Respect on that thread Dave, I got to page eight before I was overwhelmed with the task you took on and I'm just reading it!

 

A great reference for anyone looking at any level of mig welding...

 

Cheers Steve,

 

It did test my resolve at times.

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Been a busy weekend, but I finally put a few photos up.

Hope they're some help but it does look like I had a bit less work to do than you...

 

Just what I was looking for thanks matey, Did you seam weld it all the way, did the panel distort at all?

did you cut it just above the arch flare if that make sense :)

looks brilliant, I have just ordered my arch repair panel so will be looking to do mine real soon

Its welded all the way around, but it was done in small sections to keep the heat down and not distort.

I'd rather have used a panel setter, but unfortunatly there wasnt enough gap between the inner skin to get it in.

 

The damaged section on mine was just about small enough to keep the original step and weld in below that, the panel I ordered didnt seem to have as well defined a step, so we did what we could to keep that part of the original panel.

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Its welded all the way around, but it was done in small sections to keep the heat down and not distort.

I'd rather have used a panel setter, but unfortunatly there wasnt enough gap between the inner skin to get it in.

 

The damaged section on mine was just about small enough to keep the original step and weld in below that, the panel I ordered didnt seem to have as well defined a step, so we did what we could to keep that part of the original panel.

 

I have removed my inner arch complete so I am able to get a joggler behind quite easy, I do agree its quite a job to keep the step in the right place isn't it, I will see when my panel arrives see if the step matches mine, What did you use to cut the panel? I have a grinder with a very thin cutting disk

The very thin cutting discs are pretty good, but not great for corners. Used them for some parts and an old school nibbler for the more intricate parts.

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