Hi all,

was just wondering: seeing as they offer pretty similar performance, and a good ZX can be had for a little over £6k, is the Supra worth another £3k on top of that? Anyone driven both and is able to comment on how they compare? Thanks guys

Originally posted by The Devil

Oh well another one bites the dust...

 

Good fun for a Friday, better than a 'jokes page' anyday.

Crikey 3 posts in a row, did you get abit excited lmao.

 

Like you say good fun, and at least i can get onto this joke page at work lol

sorry, mates & matesses - I've forgotten. Are we on topic or off topic by now? :confused:

Christ alone knows!

 

I chose my words VERY carefully.

Glen you can call me replica boy all you want mate but as far as I'm aware there is only one other car in the country that looks like mine! LMFAO :D

 

How many stock looking Skylarks are there??? I rest my case!!! :D

 

Sad mate, you are very sad!!! :D

Originally posted by senna

and I quote you directly, Tim:

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'My next car WILL be a Skyline, after owning a 300 I really don't want anything else'

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'I think I would definately have one [skyline], after owning a Z and all the problems they have'

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'You can rave all you like about the Z against the Skyline, but at the end of the day it is a world beating machine(Skylark)!'

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'Trust me, when I say, if I could afford a GT-R I would have one tomorrow like Nick said!'

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'When I was at Middlehurst to pick my car up(moons ago) they had the most nicest, most bollox(ish) Skylark in there...GTR-V Spec with all the UK spec. How much? Oh lots, about 30K I think and that was 2nd hander...I rest my case!'

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'I agree with your points mate, but the Skylark is a work of art!'

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'Clarkey, I respect your opinion mate but aren't you leaving something out here? How many ****ing cars have you driven?

 

Since when has the ****ing Skyline been based on a family car you muppet?

 

Yep they do a four door version but the GT-R is about as far from a family car as you can get!!!'

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'Z and Skyline, class! Best of both worlds'

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'You said it mate, all you have to do is fill it up with Optimax and install a magic tree air freshner to the rear view mirror and you've got 1000bhp!!! CLASS!!!'

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'Never raced either a standard or modded Skyline on the strip, but did race them on the track and they do leave a Z for dead'

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'Fave Car (other than 300ZX):Skyline GT-R'

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'One thing I will say is this...those rear lights! Yep, copied by Fiat and where did they originate? Skylark!!! God they look good!!! '

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'Yeah, that Skylark sounds well nice to be honest...maybe if I had a crystal round thing and could see into the future I would have waited, saved and bought! Muppet!!!'

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'I love all things Skylark, you can do so much to them. They're comparable to a lego or mecano set. Here you go, here's the basic config. now you take it away, fook about with it and the result is...

 

A ****ING MONSTER!

 

Skylarks are designed to be stealth, hey...'

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So it would seem that your piss taking and general dislike of the Skyline is based upon me owning one. Which is both irrational and laughable.

 

Nite Nite replica boy;)

 

LMFAO :D

 

Ohhh you love the search feature mate don't you!

 

Sh1t stirrer springs to mind here! ROFL :D

 

Keep it coming mate! ;)

 

I'm nowhere near bored yet! :D

Originally posted by Keith_C

Objection! Em, if you ever see me with neons, you have my permission to shoot me :D Much more interested in spending my money under the bonnet :D

 

Seb, the Supra is the more reliable of the two cars, by quite a margin from what I've read here. However, the Zed is a far better looking car - it looks fast while parked up, from all angles. The headlights and bumper of the Supra have always made me think that someone has shoved a catcus up its arse.

 

Performance wise, as standard the Supra is the faster car in all respects - but then as its release was delayed specifically because the Zed came out, I should hope so. To be honest though, there won't be much real-world difference.

 

Mods/work are easier on the Supra - everything seems to be a bastard to get to on the zed. IIRC topping up the washer jets is an engine out job ;)

 

Supra's aren't cheap though when they do need work - my UK 6sp costs ~£200 for an A (minor) service, and ~£350 for a B (major). Cambelt is a £200 job, engine mounts (prone to leak) is about £400, diff oil cooler (UK only) £150, pair of front (UK) discs is in the hundreds (can't find that invoice), etc etc. A UK needs an oil/filter change every 4500miles/6mths, an A service every 9000miles/12mths, and a B service every 27000 miles/3yrs. Plugs are replaced every 60,000 miles, and cost over £100 for a set of 6. My rear tyres will have lasted about 10,000 miles when they need replacing, but then I've done no track days and I have uprated traction control (more about that later), and cost about £130 each. Fronts last a little longer and are a little cheaper.

 

Petrol is the worst - however much you think you're going to use - double it. I *very* rarely average more than 20mpg (SUL) from a tankfull, usually get 17mpg or so, have had a worst of 12mpg, and my best ever is 21.5mpg. My mods are only full decat and bleed valve, averaging 1bar boost.

 

A UK has an 80l tank, but as standard will happily take normal UL, only needing SUL up to about 1.2bar boost. An import demands SUL, and if modded really, really wants an octane boost on top of that.

 

Other than the trim level, there is no noticable real-world difference between import and UK Supra's. There is also no noticable difference between the manuals and autos.

 

If you are going to be using the car as a daily commuter, or be sitting in traffic often, I *strongly* recommend an auto. It's an *amazing* box, can be turned into a 4-speed manual on request, extremely strong, very smooth, and certainly worth a test-drive. I say this as auto UK's outnumber manual ones, are cheaper, and come up for sale more often. I didn't like autos until I got my MKIII, and now I'm converted - and the auto in that isn't as good as the MKIV one! Keep an open mind is all I say about that - you could well be suprised.

 

The traction control system fitted on all MKIV's is, IMO, poor as standard, and if you change the wheels/suspension, dangerous. If you change the wheels/suspension to anything other than Lexus wheels or different Toyota suspension, then budget a further £600 or so to get the Racelogic Traction Control system. It has saved quite a few Supra's in its time, and worth every penny and then some. My first MKIV didn't have it, had a very poor wheel/suspension setup (not my doing), would kick out at *any* opportunity, and eventually contributed to its being written off. The RL system *would* have prevented the accident. The Supra has a *lot* of torque, very low down (mine makes over 170lbft at 1500rpm), and then single-twin transition can often double the torque in less than 1000rpm, which *will* spin the wheels on wet roads, and occasionally dry ones too. When something that weighs 1600 kilos starts sliding, you're a passenger.

 

My current car has the system, as well as standard wheels, and import suspension (slightly lower and harder than the UK, but still matched perfectly to the car). It takes a lot to unstick it, and even if it does, the RLTC smoothly cuts power to restore grip - it turns a big heavy car into something you can chuck around like an Elise, although it doesn't re-write physics. Due to the way it cuts wheelspin almost before it happens, it also rather increases tyre life, which is good.

 

TBH, get the RLTC whether you get a Supra or a Zed - it's well worth it.

 

Boot space: The Supra doesn't have any.

 

Rear seat space: The Supra doesn't have any.

 

Hmm, can't think of anything now, and I'm knackered, so I'm going to bed. Ask if you want to know anythign else.

 

Keith

 

Still looks nicer than a Skylark though Keith! Fair play to yer bud! ROFL :D

 

N.B. Not actually slagging off Sennas Skyline here, my personal opinion if that's OK! :D

Originally posted by Timmy_Turbo

Glen you can call me replica boy all you want mate but as far as I'm aware there is only one other car in the country that looks like mine! LMFAO :D

 

P.S. It won an award at Billing! LMFFFFFFFAAAAAAOOOOOO :D

 

How many stock looking Skylarks are there??? I rest my case!!! :D

 

Sad mate, you are very sad!!! :D

I have not even SVA'd my 93 auto jap tt yet so cant really speak about the performance as I have not driven it far. But my friend has a uk turbo Supra (6 speed) and it would eat my zx.. And before you all rip into me I accept my car has not run far etc etc and dont know if it is in tune but it looks and sounds healthy.

Mark

group hug!!! :rolleyes:

 

I cant believe this topics caused so much agro. I mean it isnt even about gearbox's!!!!! :D

Originally posted by Keith_C

The headlights and bumper of the Supra have always made me think that someone has shoved a catcus up its arse.

 

Couldn't have put it batter myself, LOL, the 'Tandy Disco' rear light cluster on the MKIV has always put me off too. LMFAO

LMAO!!! Now that is one seriously short-wheelbase Zed!!!

 

http://300zx-twinturbo.com/oops/Dsc02081.jpg

Originally posted by dunk300zxtt

LMAO!!! Now that is one seriously short-wheelbase Zed!!!

 

http://300zx-twinturbo.com/oops/Dsc02081.jpg

 

Yet the wheels are complety untouched!!

Originally posted by Timmy_Turbo

LMFAO :D

 

Ohhh you love the search feature mate don't you!

 

Sh1t stirrer springs to mind here! ROFL :D

 

Keep it coming mate! ;)

 

I'm nowhere near bored yet! :D

 

really?

 

then shall we keep this crap off the sensible parts of the forum and on fight club from now on Tim?

 

because Im sure nobody else on here wants to see this level of discussion.

 

We disagree on the color of orange dont we ;)

OMG I thought I had logged onto the fight club forum!!!!!:D

 

Seems that there is two battles going on here.

 

Anyway to get back to topic - you really need to drive both the supra and the zed to make up your own mind.

 

The reason I bought the zed was that it was the only car that I could think of that fitted all my criteria:-

 

Japanese - for reliability (!)

Targa top - Don't like full cabrios - to wobbly to drive

Turbo - like the "hit" of the turbo's and the sound

Rear drive - hate front wheel drive

Not too common - like the exclusivity

Easy to mod - loads of stuff available

Internet forums - for advise if needed

 

Also I had two Nissan's and used to work at a dealer so I thought I'd stick with what I know.

 

Ivan:D