... don't fix it !

 

 

Changed my brake fluid at the weekend, old stuff was probably the original and looked most unpleasant.

 

Anyway, bled out the fronts, luverly jubbly no worries, then did the rears. No matter how much fluid I pushed through I got a steady stream of tiny bubbles appearing. Mucked about for a while wondering whether it was something to do with the bleed nipples on the rear calipers, then gave up and decided that all the additional work the master cylinder had just done has worn something out, broken something, dislodged some crap which had damaged something etc and was now drawing in air. So I took it for a drive and it seemed OK. Drove it again this morning and it is defintely not good. So now I have something else to fix !!! Anyway MJP came up trumps (as usual) with a master cylinder repair kit (~£40) which will be my first plan of attack, followed by a new master cylinder (~£160) if that doesn't solve it.

 

I was tempted to re-bleed the fronts to see whether there was no air coming through them but there was a distinct risk of making them worse rather than better so I left (almost)well alone.

 

Anyway, let that be a lesson to you all !!

 

Happy days.

Originally posted by AndyP

... don't fix it !

 

 

Changed my brake fluid at the weekend, old stuff was probably the original and looked most unpleasant.

 

Anyway, bled out the fronts, luverly jubbly no worries, then did the rears. No matter how much fluid I pushed through I got a steady stream of tiny bubbles appearing. Mucked about for a while wondering whether it was something to do with the bleed nipples on the rear calipers, then gave up and decided that all the additional work the master cylinder had just done has worn something out, broken something, dislodged some crap which had damaged something etc and was now drawing in air. So I took it for a drive and it seemed OK. Drove it again this morning and it is defintely not good. So now I have something else to fix !!! Anyway MJP came up trumps (as usual) with a master cylinder repair kit (~£40) which will be my first plan of attack, followed by a new master cylinder (~£160) if that doesn't solve it.

 

I was tempted to re-bleed the fronts to see whether there was no air coming through them but there was a distinct risk of making them worse rather than better so I left (almost)well alone.

 

Anyway, let that be a lesson to you all !!

 

Happy days.

 

Oh Dear Andy!

You made a right arse of that one bud.

 

You start at the rear NS,then the rear OS,then the front NS and last the front OS;)

 

Ask Peter;)

And - your car might not have one (as it's a Series II), but some cars have a bleed nipple on the ABS unit that you have to bleed as well.. (mine certainly does)

Originally posted by MAC 1

Oh Dear Andy!

You made a right arse of that one bud.

 

You start at the rear NS,then the rear OS,then the front NS and last the front OS;)

 

Ask Peter;)

 

That's only really for the final bleed, and in this case it's probably a good job that I didn't !

Originally posted by aaronjb

And - your car might not have one (as it's a Series II), but some cars have a bleed nipple on the ABS unit that you have to bleed as well.. (mine certainly does)

 

Yup - forgot to mention that.

Best to pressure bleed really - or use a mity-vac with fluid reservoir to draw it out.

Originally posted by Paul C

Best to pressure bleed really - or use a mity-vac with fluid reservoir to draw it out.

 

So it would appear. Next time I'll pop down and you can do it for me ! ;)

Originally posted by AndyP

That's only really for the final bleed, and in this case it's probably a good job that I didn't !

 

LOL NO you wong me wite;) You do it the way I said when you change the fluid,Like I said ask Peter;)

hate to say it but mac1 is right :rolleyes: always work from the furthest away from the master cyl first.

Originally posted by Paul C

hate to say it but mac1 is right :rolleyes: always work from the furthest away from the master cyl first.

 

Oh that's just charming Paul:(

i meant thats another fiver for you bud!! :D

LOL Ok I forgive you mate;):D

Originally posted by Paul C

hate to say it but mac1 is right :rolleyes: always work from the furthest away from the master cyl first.

 

I know, I know and that's what the manual says and all that, but my point is that it doesn't really matter when you're just pushing the clean fluid through before the final check/bleed.

Originally posted by AndyP

I know, I know and that's what the manual says and all that, but my point is that it doesn't really matter when you're just pushing the clean fluid through before the final check/bleed.

 

LOL now where did I put that hammer and chisel:D

And - your car might not have one (as it's a Series II), but some cars have a bleed nipple on the ABS unit that you have to bleed as well.. (mine certainly does)

 

Ah excellent. I have just been doing this and couldn't work out why i still had air in the system. I forgot all about this.

 

Good luck with the repair kit Andy.

Furthest away from the master cylinder is actually the fronts ;) The brake lines go from master cylinder-abs unit(at rear of car)-calipers. Therefore the fronts are the furthest away.... technically ;)

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

in that case i retract my statement - andy was right!!!! :D

Well no, actually you were right. The manual says follow the procedure that both you and Macca said. Anyway, rules were made to be broken etc ... ;)

Macca is right,Paul C is right, Peter R is right,the manual is right.

 

Dufflecoat is in IT FFS,anyway he can't even fit an exhaust without it falling off:D:D:D

 

ROFL did I also remind you he takes 12 months to fit a pair of turbos;)

 

Stick to IT mate you are much better at it:p

He fixed my leccy window problem that would've never been sorted by Nelson so he gets my vote!

 

Oh did I forget to mention that he also fitted my Traction Control? Sorry! LOL :D

 

Everyone makes mistakes but he has my vote when it comes to working on Z's...or any car for that matter!

 

P.S. DOH! I'm on about AndyP by the way! FFS! Andy is such a common name...ROFL :D

Originally posted by MAC 1

Macca is right,Paul C is right, Peter R is right,the manual is right.

 

Dufflecoat is in IT FFS,anyway he can't even fit an exhaust without it falling off:D:D:D

 

ROFL did I also remind you he takes 12 months to fit a pair of turbos;)

 

Stick to IT mate you are much better at it:p

 

Fvckin sick of this sh1t tbh :( EVERY post I have read up to now has macca or timmy slagging me off - THANKS. So, time to stop reading cos I can't be bothered......

Originally posted by andyduff

Fvckin sick of this sh1t tbh :( EVERY post I have read up to now has macca or timmy slagging me off - THANKS. So, time to stop reading cos I can't be bothered......

 

Also getting f*ckin sick of you too,beleive ME!

You always claim to know it all FFS LOL!

Remember Donny show a few years ago?

I will remind you;)

 

Macca pulls up with Blitz Bovs WHOOSH WHOOSH!

 

Duffer replys Wow they are loud,why are mine not that loud?

 

Macca have you blocked off the factory recircs?

 

Duffer emm NO!

 

nuff said;)

 

Don't think you know it all,that's all I am saying;)

Originally posted by MAC 1

You always claim to know it all FFS LOL!

Remember Donny show a few years ago?

I will remind you;)

 

Macca pulls up with Blitz Bovs WHOOSH WHOOSH!

 

Duffer replys Wow they are loud,why are mine not that loud?

 

Macca have you blocked off the factory recircs?

 

Duffer emm NO!

 

nuff said;)

 

Don't think you know it all,that's all I am saying;)

 

Where did I say I think I know it all ffs??? I stated a FACT about the brake lines thats all. I DID NOT say ANYTHING about the order in which the brakes should be bled. What do you want me to do? Stop posting? If I post I get called a know it all so I aint gonna fvckin bother no more...

Originally posted by andyduff

Where did I say I think I know it all ffs??? I stated a FACT about the brake lines thats all. I DID NOT say ANYTHING about the order in which the brakes should be bled. What do you want me to do? Stop posting? If I post I get called a know it all so I aint gonna fvckin bother no more...

 

Oh FFS!

 

Stop it I am in tears this end you big puff!

 

Get a grip on yourself girlie:D

 

If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen,Think of all the heart ache you caused Z world.

 

A little banter and out go the toys from the pram.

Oi - leave out all the agro cr@p and pray for my master cylinder instead ! :D