Whilst we all know that there will no longer be the requirement to display a tax disc from 1/10/14, I have only just read that the road tax does not remain with the vehicle when you sell it....

 

.....Once you notify DVLA, you get an automatic refund of the unused duty and the new owner then has to re-purchase their own RFL...!! I suppose it does make sense to do it that way:wink:

I've heard a rumour that if you sell your car after the new rules come into force and the new owner doesn't tax it, you're still liable for the penalty! :o It may be one of those "mate down the pub" rumours, but it's apparently so the selling owner makes sure the new owner taxes the car before they drive it anywhere...

Whilst we all know that there will no longer be the requirement to display a tax disc from 1/10/14, I have only just read that the road tax does not remain with the vehicle when you sell it....

 

.....Once you notify DVLA, you get an automatic refund of the unused duty and the new owner then has to re-purchase their own RFL...!! I suppose it does make sense to do it that way:wink:

 

If it's all done on line now, yeah it does. It would take 5 minutes to do before you collect the car. I guess it removes those 'I just bought the car and i haven't insured it yet' tossers. You can't tax it unless it's insured, so it totally makes sense!

 

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I've heard a rumour that if you sell your car after the new rules come into force and the new owner doesn't tax it, you're still liable for the penalty! :o It may be one of those "mate down the pub" rumours, but it's apparently so the selling owner makes sure the new owner taxes the car before they drive it anywhere...

 

 

Insure you mean!

I've heard a rumour that if you sell your car after the new rules come into force and the new owner doesn't tax it, you're still liable for the penalty! :o It may be one of those "mate down the pub" rumours, but it's apparently so the selling owner makes sure the new owner taxes the car before they drive it anywhere...

 

Possibly - although if you fail to tell the DVLA you have sold the vehicle, then you will remain liable for the RFL.... So I guess there is some truth in it; and it would encourage people to keep DVLA promptly informed of any changes.

 

But despite the enforcement of new regulations, roadside number plate recognition cameras and the ability to keep everything in live "real time" at DVLA, they STILL seem to be making a right hash of personalised reg transfers at the moment.... In the old days, you could walk into the local VRO and do it over the counter in less than an hour....

 

.....Then you had to post or deliver everything to the local office and wait a week.... Now? Well, since the local offices have closed, everything goes to Swansea and they take bloody weeks to do it. So much for progress...:nono: There is absolutely no reason why it cannot be done on their vast, sophisticated computers in a day or two.

 

Instead, I have to put my 'plate on retention - and wait weeks for the documents to come back before I can sell my car. And the new car I am buying must remain in some far corner of the dealership until the documents come back from DVLA, where the previous owner is retaining their own personal 'plate:mad:

 

I want my new car NOW - but cannot see why DVLA is taking so much time to execute a relatively simple task. Like everything else since technology has improved, many simple processes now take days rather than hours - WHY???? Or am I just impatient:wink:

 

Richard:clover:

Whilst we all know that there will no longer be the requirement to display a tax disc from 1/10/14, I have only just read that the road tax does not remain with the vehicle when you sell it....

 

.....Once you notify DVLA, you get an automatic refund of the unused duty and the new owner then has to re-purchase their own RFL...!! I suppose it does make sense to do it that way:wink:

 

The problem is that you can still only have a refund for full months. Therefore is you sold your car on the the 15th you'd lose 15ish days in tax. Likewise the person buying the car has to pay for a full month, but would lose 15days worth.

 

All quids in to the DVLA!

I didn't realise the local DVLA offices had closed until this morning when I went to change the reg for the wife's new car. Now it all goes to Swansea as Richard says.

Maybe we've all got used to one system and need to get used to another - like the RFL, but we don't always like change so it seems a pain to do.

I didn't realise the local DVLA offices had closed until this morning when I went to change the reg for the wife's new car. Now it all goes to Swansea as Richard says.

Maybe we've all got used to one system and need to get used to another - like the RFL, but we don't always like change so it seems a pain to do.

 

Maybe Greg - but I have nothing against change, providing it's for the better..... What's bothering me about it, is the sheer time the process is currently taking - if having everything done at Swansea speeded up the process so that it was all done on some state of the art computer system in a matter of 1-2 days; fair enough. But nothing has improved since last summer when all the local offices closed - and Swansea is STILL taking the thick end of a month to process a reg plate assignment!!

 

They should have their act together by now.

 

I would like to collect my new car - but cannot as the previous owner's paperwork is not back from DVLA; the dealer would like me to collect it so they can have their money from me (and the space on their forecourt for another car); and I want to secure my own retention document so that my old car can be safely sold (and I can have my money back in the bank).

 

And even then it's not over - I will be collecting the new car with its "normal" 'plate; so I'll have to wait whilst DVLA pisses about for another month, when I send off the paperwork to assign my private reg to the new car.....:mad: There is no need for the process to be so protracted nowadays.....!!

 

And if anyone here works for the DVLA, please do see if there is anything you can do to move my paperwork along a bit.... I'll be most grateful:wink:

The problem is that you can still only have a refund for full months. Therefore is you sold your car on the the 15th you'd lose 15ish days in tax. Likewise the person buying the car has to pay for a full month, but would lose 15days worth.

 

All quids in to the DVLA!

What I cannot understand is with the new computerised online, now done in real time that they have decided to do........ why can't they break the 12 months tax down and divide the amount by 365 days and do it on a daily rate?

They no longer need to do it at the end of a month as there will be no tax discs to display saying valid until the end of a certain month....... That was always their excuse as to why they refund only full months before!

The only possible reason they have is to rip car owners off for the remaining days of the month for both the seller and the buyer!!

They would as 'PhilP' said take 15 days from each party, gaining the DVLA a months worth of extra tax for every sale........ and that is wrong.....

They could even do a set time period..... say I want to tax my Z for 7 months for the show season...... their system could easily do the calculation.....

 

£225 a year, divide by 365 =

30 days a month for 7 months = 210 days

210 x 0.62 = £130.20

 

Everyone is a winner as we would be happy to tax our cars for 7 months instead of the 6 or 12 months choice, so the DVLA gets an extra months revenue......win win!!

You will be able to tax your car on a monthly basis via direct debit when it all comes in to force.

 

I still wonder what the plans are for us in the motor trade though....