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Like I said in the ITB's project, there's another intake manifold coming up. As the 300zx is still in my driveway, it will serve again as a test and dyno mule.

 

With the ITB manifold everything was designed for maximum performance explaining the large plenums and custom intercooler pipes. This time the manifold should be easier to fit by making use of more OEM parts, and being much cheaper to fabricate. Modifying the valve covers, fuel rails and ignition coil brackets is still required though. The length of the intake runners is just as long as the ITB manifold, around 39cm which is a good value for what most vg30's are tuned to.

 

This manifold has smaller plenums that hook up to OEM throttle bodies. The plenum volume is roughly 1,5 liters per side, only slightly larger than stock. However, due to the improved design and more central TB location going any bigger won't really do any good. I milled the TB flanges to 58mm in case it's being tested on a car with enlarged TB's. The TB's will be linked by cables requiring some work to them. I'll have to fit the manifold to the car and check fit and clearance for the lever setup in the final stages.

 

The TB's sit at a 45 degree angle and face downwards about 10 degrees. By using just a 60mm 45 degree hose it can be directly hooked up to a hard pipe kit. For a 'soft' hose connection, a short 45 degree aluminum bend can be fabricated.

 

So far it has come to what you see in the pics below. The Border fuel kit fits without problems after I mill the excess material away. The stock fuel rails require new fittings fabricated at the ends, and removal of the original hose fittings. Welding the fuel rails is a bad idea I've learned so they must be hard soldered. This project should go much faster and the modifications to the coils, fuel rails and valve covers are already done. The welds may look a bit odd around the plenum cause of polishing residue.

 

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This manifold is also going to fit with top feeds. The bolts that hold the velocity stacks in place first bolt into the plenum floor and are again secured once the manifold is welded shut. The heat from welding destroys any sealant put around the bolts so after it is fully welded additional nuts are screwed up and sealed against them.

 

-Rutger

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I finished the other side manifold an now in the process of linking the TB's, and fitting the AAC unit along with a balance tube. Just like the ITB manifold, the weight saving is substantial. I estimate the complete system will remove around 7kg from the engine. The air regulator will be removed as well, useless device. The AAC can easily hook up for the cold start.

 

it looks so small doesn't it?

 

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I didn't want to remove the timing belt again due to the lower manifold swap, so I made a special fixture to hold the timing belt pulley in place. It braces itself to the underside of the intake pulleys and pushed down in a triangular shape upon the belt pulley. By applying the right amount of pressure on the pulley, it worked so well I could remove and install the bolt that holds the pulley by hand. It didn't move a millimeter.

 

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Great work, just need to sort the throttle cables now but given the other challenges you've over come I'd imagine it's trivial for you

Looks amazing ! I know someone who was working on a similar design but using six throttle bodies.

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Starting to get there. Finished the intercooler pipes and the idle hook up welded to the balance pipe. I don't really like the 'bends' within the balance pipe like this but weld elbows this size (25mm) cost 50 euro's for a pair. A bit too much for something not that important. The bends for the intercooler pipes have a short radius. It would have been possible to use a wider radius but this would have looked even stranger and not improve the airflow.

 

 

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I'm now in the process of hooking up the 2 TB's, it's a lot more difficult than I had expected. But I will get there, hope by tomorrow.

reading this with amazment at your skills,and that pully holding device is so neat but simple:thumbup1:

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Great work, just need to sort the throttle cables now but given the other challenges you've over come I'd imagine it's trivial for you

Took me a week to figure it out but here's how I eventually did it:biggrin:.

The pics explain how it works. The wheel in the middle has a bronze bearing. The cables were designed as brake cables for bikes, even Jenvey uses simple cables like this so no doubt this will work perfect.

 

The cruise control lever can be installed later on opposite to the regular throttle cable, because it normally spins freely on the throttle shaft, it needs it's own bearing and spring. Too much works at this point, but worse, the cable kinks as it's not of the right length. I would have to rotate the entire CC unit. Maybe next time.

 

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The 90 degree steel bends are filled with teflon liner, the were a very tight fit underneath the manifold. The aluminum wheels were all made by hand.

 

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reading this with amazment at your skills,and that pully holding device is so neat but simple:thumbup1:

 

Thanks, if someone's interested I could make more of those pulley brackets:thumbup1:

Get her on the dyno so we have some before and after results.I know of somebody that will be interested.Love these threads :thumbup1:

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Got the engine up and running. Apart from a gasket leak all went quite well. Requires just a bit of work but for now it runs nice.

 

Should be seeing the dyno soon.

 

 

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Nothing spectacular, just evidence of being in working order;)

 

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I got to the dyno last week, but due to a blown fuse the dyno itself didn't work. So in the meantime I replaced a couple of small things (injector plugs and seals) and went back today.

 

First result was a disappointing 236,5hp at the wheels. But for some reason the AFR's were extremely rich (see the dyno sheet) so I pulled and plugged the FPR hose and power rose to 253hp ATW with lowered AFR. The AFR was still to rich, we estimated the engine would do around 265hp ATW with the right AFR. That's very close to the ITB setup at 263hp ATW, but that run was done when the temps were much higher and I used slightly less quality fuel.

 

So I'm quite satisfied with the result. I still feel some air leak is causing the engine to run to rich, but as I can't find it there could also be something wrong with the AFM. Now it's time to swap the stocker back in and dyno it...

 

Blue is ITB's, green the run with this manifold and red the run with to much fuel. Note how equal the curves are, most likely due to the similar velocity stacks and runner length used.

 

 

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I joined up after watching a video of this on youtube posted on the USA 300zx club. I love the look of that plenum. Wish the linkage was solid instead of cabled though. Will a strut bar fit? How about BDE top feeds? I'd def be interested in one of these after some more testing.

I joined up after watching a video of this on youtube posted on the USA 300zx club. I love the look of that plenum. Wish the linkage was solid instead of cabled though. Will a strut bar fit? How about BDE top feeds? I'd def be interested in one of these after some more testing.

 

Your welcome :D

 

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I joined up after watching a video of this on youtube posted on the USA 300zx club. I love the look of that plenum. Wish the linkage was solid instead of cabled though. Will a strut bar fit? How about BDE top feeds? I'd def be interested in one of these after some more testing.

 

Your welcome :D

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I joined up after watching a video of this on youtube posted on the USA 300zx club. I love the look of that plenum. Wish the linkage was solid instead of cabled though. Will a strut bar fit? How about BDE top feeds? I'd def be interested in one of these after some more testing.

Thanks. A solid linkage does not work, I've spend hours figuring out the right angle for the TB's, and due to their position there's no reasonable way to fit a solid linkage. The BDE's would fit by moving the AAC unit somewhere else. On the side of just 1 plenum could be done but I don't know how this will affect idle stability.

 

I just finished the manifold back to stock. Just need to adjust the idle and fixed a cracked brake booster hose and the 100% stock car will see the dyno next week.

 

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Coming along nicely Rudi and great sound on that video :thumbup1:

Thanks. The engine is pretty quiet, you're probably hearing the dyno spin ;)

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I don't know if a strut bar will, depends on the type I guess.

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I managed to get the car back to stock, easier said than done. During the assembly I somehow managed to make a stupid mistake, the injector plug for cylinder 4 didn't secure well, skipping the 4th cylinder for a few km's. I checked every plug twice but this one somehow skipped. Also, after a test drive the 6th cylinder went dead as well, and the 1st injector leaked towards the upper side of the fuel rail, I should be lucky it didn't get worse and the car didn't burn down.

 

The cause of this is the incorrect fit of the 'Buna' fuel injector seals I bought through CZP. They're way to thick and I could barely fit the injectors into their rails. So injector 1 leaked towards the outer part, but I suspect number 6 did it inside of the intake port. This flooded the cylinder killing cylinder 6. Lesson learned, always buy OEM fuel parts. Note the difference. OEM left, Buna right;

 

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Now the dyno results. The car runs much better with the stock manifold. You can really feel that the tune is correct for this type. Despite running quite smooth throughout the rpm's, during the first run the engine went extremely rich again at just 242 rwhp, note how the AFR falls of the scale like it did with the manifold as seen in this topic. So I pulled and plugged the vacuum hose again and the power rose to 255hp just 3hp over my custom manifold, and 8hp less than the ITB setup.

 

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As can be seen in the dynosheet, both the ITB (blue line) and custom manifold (red line) take the lead from a low speed on. At 135km/h the AFR went very rich on the custom manifold and the stocker (green) takes over shortly, staying close till the last top end where the AFR screws up again on the custom manifold. The ITB setup is by far the best over the entire rev range, take into account that that setup wasn't done with a pulled vacuum hose so likely too rich as well (the AFR recording was faulty during the run so no comparison, but note the power drop at the end just like the very rich custom manifold). The overall design still makes it a winner.

 

It all sums up pretty well. The custom manifold from this topic couldn't perform well as the ecu made it run way to rich, I guess a boost leak or dirty MAF as the cause. This killed the performance of it, and I feel it should be right on par with the ITB manifold. The stock manifold has the primary advantage of being tuned for the setup, giving it a false start. Add to that the effect of the stock turbo's, which were designed to work with the standard manifold's performance areas throughout the rev range. I also expect both the ITB manifold and this custom manifold to respond much better to uprated cams.

 

At a stock stage a custom manifolds seems pointless for the marginal power gain, the money could better be spend on other parts. But at a higher state of tune, where all other 'breathing' parts have been uprated the stock manifold becomes one of the next steps. Now it's time to test one on a tuned 300zx.

 

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HI RUDI,

 

Can you please contact me @ 0684331255 as I am also living in Holland, and are busy with a project ;)

 

thnx, Emrys

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