http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2013/apr/08/miliband-clegg-local-elections-cameron-madrid

 

RIP the Iron Lady

ok one selling council houses find another two and I will give thirty against

 

still only one

It's ironic that this thread was started by some one in Bridgend and I for one remember only too well what Thatcher did to support the Welsh Steel & Coal industries. Her "dash for gas" worked so well to secure energy policy and keep prices down. Selling off council houses certainly improved life on the estates by increasing owner occupiers but at the same time forbade councils from using the receipts to replace social housing which is why we don't have enough social housing. As someone who saw old "one nation" toryism replaced by the greed is good culture (and had a mortgage rocketing while bank rates shot to 15%), I wept with joy when she was dumped out of office. So I have raised a glass to her memory and the success of the Falklands - and also in memory of every miner, steel worker, doctor, nurse, engineer, car maker, community worker and their lives and communities.

This is why I don't do politics or Religion, you may as well launch your self into space and argue about which way is up! Both are pointless arguments with no real answers.

you do talk a lot of sense steams :biggrin: my mum always said never talk politics or religion with people you dont know

you do talk a lot of sense steams :biggrin: my mum always said never talk politics or religion with people you dont know

 

helps to not talk about it with people you do know as well mate..lol

This is why I don't do politics or Religion, you may as well launch your self into space and argue about which way is up! Both are pointless arguments with no real answers.

 

Easy, up is up. ive never seen a upside down astronaut on those live feeds, have you? so it must obviously be an easy question to answer.

Easy, up is up. ive never seen a upside down astronaut on those live feeds, have you? so it must obviously be an easy question to answer.

 

:no:.......lol

:tt2:

helps to not talk about it with people you do know as well mate..lol

 

Very true Dave - it brings out the worst in people sometimes......

 

Easy, up is up. ive never seen a upside down astronaut on those live feeds, have you? so it must obviously be an easy question to answer.

 

.....Ian, the only way to be sure which way up you are in space is when the shit starts coming out of your collar and into your face!!!

 

A bit like politics, in a funny way....:lol:

Very true Dave - it brings out the worst in people sometimes......

 

 

 

.....Ian, the only way to be sure which way up you are in space is when the shit starts coming out of your collar and into your face!!!

 

A bit like politics, in a funny way....:lol:

 

i think most men would be glued to that vacuum assisted toilet for that to have any real opportunity to happen lol

I see her stay at tue ritz was funded by her family and friends and not the state

Very true Dave - it brings out the worst in people sometimes......

 

 

 

.....Ian, the only way to be sure which way up you are in space is when the shit starts coming out of your collar and into your face!!!

A bit like politics, in a funny way....:lol:

 

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I see her stay at tue ritz was funded by her family and friends and not the state

 

On this occasion that wouldn't bother me if the taxpayer stumped up the bill as there are loads and loads, infinite number of loads, sponging and taking thousands off the state and they've done nothing for this country they think owes them a living, unlike Mrs. Thatcher who did her utmost and the lady had spunk in abundance.

 

Some mistakes yes but when you were in power as long as she was this is to be expected, overall the Lady did good very good :thumbup1:.

 

Just wish some of the men prime ministers before and after weren't so lilly livered :thumbdown:.

something i lifted from facebook

 

 

Tonight I shall go and have a drink for Margaret Thatcher's death. I shall raise my glass to the night sky, and THANK HER, and celebrate her life. People on this seem to have a very strange view of history. So here are a few little nuggets with how and more specifically WHY a lot of industries were destroyed by her, and what's more, ...destroyed with the MANDATE OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE. The seventies were blighted by the trade unions waiting for winter and then coming out on strike at it's heart. Holding the country to ransom for ANNUAL pay rises of up to 36% ABOVE inflation. This was the likes of Scargill and co. And they bled us dry. We were bankrupted by them. And then the Winter of Discontent happened. And they ALL came out. Miners, power workers, transport workers; even funeral directors, everything tied into the TGWU came out. My own grandparents lay on a slab for 2 months waiting to be buried. The entire country was a ruin. Rubbish not collected for months, rats everywhere. And the unions laughed, and brought down Callaghan's Labour Government. And Thatcher stood up at the General Election and made ONE SIMPLE PROMISE. Elect me. And THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. ELECT ME AND I WILL DESTROY THEM. She won a landslide. On that promise.And she became the last elected Prime Minister to actually hold true to her election promise. She did exactly what she said. She utterly destroyed the unions. Obliterated them. The cost was those industries. We knew that would be the price. But we would not allow them to hold us to ransom again. What she did, she did with our BLESSING. The socialists and people who backed those strikes have only themselves to blame for what happened. Baroness Thatcher didn't destroy those industries and communities for fun or as part of a class war. She did it to stop them holding the country to ransom again. And then she held the purse strings tight and re-built the economy and the country and Britain again stood tall and thrived. And we won back the global respect we had lost while the left wing ruled. In the Falklands we were thankful for her being in office. Those of us who went 'south' in '82 did so knowing we had a leader who would not - and did not- interfere. She sent the military and allowed us to do our job. Gave us the money, the equipment and most of all THE FREEDOM to get the job done. Our lands had been invaded. We had a gun up our nose. SHE led us. Frankly Thatcher took a very broken Britain by the hand like a strict old fashioned Matron and LED THE COUNTRY BACK TO WHERE IT HAD ONCE BEEN. We were the worlds 3rd major power in ALL respects. And as for the world, it has NEVER been safer than when Thatcher was in Downing Street, Reagan was in the White House and Gorbachev was in the Kremlin as the three spoke DAILY. They laid the ground for the fall of the Berlin Wall. The Russians were TERRIFIED of her. And the world again feared Britain. And lets not forget that she gave people the full right to buy their own council property. Her vision was that the TENNANT and the tennant alone could buy that property.As soon as her party stabbed her in the back the feeding frenzy began as under her the famous Tory grandee greed was held in check. So they stabbed her, led by the europro traitor ponce Heseltine - who didn't have the guts to face her openly and alone - they arranged her removal. And we have been a broken patsy for europe ever since. So yes, tonight I will celebrate the death of Baroness Thatcher, with thanks, with respect, and with sadness, because she allowed me to know what we could be, what we could achieve, what it meant to be BRITISH

I'm fillin up!!

Shame the last 16 years have seen us rollback the protections against europes excesses and the social insecurities we now have which have left our society divided and always looking for the legal scapegoat to lay blame for our own foibles at other peoples feet.

 

Not sure Mrs T didn't push to far the free enterprise " loadsamoney" culture that all most certainly encouredged the selfish society that we seem to live in now, but she would never have allowed the human rights act to poison the british culture of humanity and irreverance in the face of adversity that now Plagues our nation " thankyou mrs Blair " , but without doubt we would never have recovered our self confidence, respect and sense of national pride as so well highlighted during a great year of sport and culture celebration last year.

 

She would always understandably have her detractors, but like Churchill, she was the right " bloke " for the job.

 

I too will have a toast to her and hope one day we will see her like again, whatever side of the House, to suit our times.

something i lifted from facebook

 

 

Tonight I shall go and have a drink for Margaret Thatcher's death. I shall raise my glass to the night sky, and THANK HER, and celebrate her life. People on this seem to have a very strange view of history. So here are a few little nuggets with how and more specifically WHY a lot of industries were destroyed by her, and what's more, ...destroyed with the MANDATE OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE. The seventies were blighted by the trade unions waiting for winter and then coming out on strike at it's heart. Holding the country to ransom for ANNUAL pay rises of up to 36% ABOVE inflation. This was the likes of Scargill and co. And they bled us dry. We were bankrupted by them. And then the Winter of Discontent happened. And they ALL came out. Miners, power workers, transport workers; even funeral directors, everything tied into the TGWU came out. My own grandparents lay on a slab for 2 months waiting to be buried. The entire country was a ruin. Rubbish not collected for months, rats everywhere. And the unions laughed, and brought down Callaghan's Labour Government. And Thatcher stood up at the General Election and made ONE SIMPLE PROMISE. Elect me. And THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. ELECT ME AND I WILL DESTROY THEM. She won a landslide. On that promise.And she became the last elected Prime Minister to actually hold true to her election promise. She did exactly what she said. She utterly destroyed the unions. Obliterated them. The cost was those industries. We knew that would be the price. But we would not allow them to hold us to ransom again. What she did, she did with our BLESSING. The socialists and people who backed those strikes have only themselves to blame for what happened. Baroness Thatcher didn't destroy those industries and communities for fun or as part of a class war. She did it to stop them holding the country to ransom again. And then she held the purse strings tight and re-built the economy and the country and Britain again stood tall and thrived. And we won back the global respect we had lost while the left wing ruled. In the Falklands we were thankful for her being in office. Those of us who went 'south' in '82 did so knowing we had a leader who would not - and did not- interfere. She sent the military and allowed us to do our job. Gave us the money, the equipment and most of all THE FREEDOM to get the job done. Our lands had been invaded. We had a gun up our nose. SHE led us. Frankly Thatcher took a very broken Britain by the hand like a strict old fashioned Matron and LED THE COUNTRY BACK TO WHERE IT HAD ONCE BEEN. We were the worlds 3rd major power in ALL respects. And as for the world, it has NEVER been safer than when Thatcher was in Downing Street, Reagan was in the White House and Gorbachev was in the Kremlin as the three spoke DAILY. They laid the ground for the fall of the Berlin Wall. The Russians were TERRIFIED of her. And the world again feared Britain. And lets not forget that she gave people the full right to buy their own council property. Her vision was that the TENNANT and the tennant alone could buy that property.As soon as her party stabbed her in the back the feeding frenzy began as under her the famous Tory grandee greed was held in check. So they stabbed her, led by the europro traitor ponce Heseltine - who didn't have the guts to face her openly and alone - they arranged her removal. And we have been a broken patsy for europe ever since. So yes, tonight I will celebrate the death of Baroness Thatcher, with thanks, with respect, and with sadness, because she allowed me to know what we could be, what we could achieve, what it meant to be BRITISH

 

I will be joining you,Great woman to be respected for her contribution to this Country.I think Maggie did a great job and needs to be remembered for this,i just watched some socialists dancing on a newspaper picture of her and my piss boiled,they were about twenty years old ffs !! how dare they,they never saw the 70s and the shit Labour put us in.Rather like the the last term where they ruined the country again.Despite popular belief Maggie wasnt all for the rich i get tired hearing that old chestnut,she helped thousands of blue collar workers owna home,encouraged people to start their own businesses,crushing the unions wasnt an attack on workers it was aimed at the unions strangling the country and making us the laughing stock of europe.Nobody would deal with us.Its a great lost to Politics and the fact she got elected 3 times says it all.......... Rip Iron Lady

Well said Jimmer..

Well said Jimmer..

 

Yes; and Stella.....

 

Whatever side of the political fence one sits, one must remember that running the country (any country for that matter) is a thankless task. That person will have their supporters and detractors; they can never please all of the people all of the time, they can only do their best in the circumstances of their own leadership.

 

And that is what The Iron Lady did. And she did it well - Lady Thatcher turned GB from an economic basket case into a world leader once again; and made many many people proud to be British. Something successive governments have strived to undo; and pull the people back into the gutter as if to make us sorry we were once a proud nation.

 

And my final thought; Margaret Hilda Thatcher was given a Baronetcy. Her successor, John Major, is now Sir John Major - and pretty much every previous Prime Minister had a title bestowed upon them after leaving office. For services to Queen and Country, no doubt...... Funny how messrs Blair and Brown are (still) left waiting in the wings, isn't it....?

 

Richard

Yes; and Stella.....

 

Whatever side of the political fence one sits, one must remember that running the country (any country for that matter) is a thankless task. That person will have their supporters and detractors; they can never please all of the people all of the time, they can only do their best in the circumstances of their own leadership.

 

And that is what The Iron Lady did. And she did it well - Lady Thatcher turned GB from an economic basket case into a world leader once again; and made many many people proud to be British. Something successive governments have strived to undo; and pull the people back into the gutter as if to make us sorry we were once a proud nation.

 

And my final thought; Margaret Hilda Thatcher was given a Baronetcy. Her successor, John Major, is now Sir John Major - and pretty much every previous Prime Minister had a title bestowed upon them after leaving office. For services to Queen and Country, no doubt...... Funny how messrs Blair and Brown are (still) left waiting in the wings, isn't it....?

 

Richard

 

That just about sums it up Richard.couldnt put it better if i tried.