Firstly let me apologise for my little outburst last night/this morning but the thread about disabled drivers last night got me a bit hot under the collar. I am sorry if I offended anyone at all, that was not my intention.

 

I would however like to put something straight, a disabled wheelchair user can have a bog standard wheelchair free in most cases from the NHS (really really heavy). However if you require something that is a bit of a specialist wheelchair for the lightness, seating positions, specialst cushions, foldability say for the boot of a Zed etc etc they have to pay for their own. My particular wheelchair cost me (yes I had to pay for it) £3,500, (my Zed didn't cost that). I have to change it every 5 years, so it costs me £3,500 + however much they have hiked the price up (and believe me, mention disability and the price trebles). Therefore my next wheelchair will probably be more like £4,000. So road tax and the odd free parking space doesn't come near to my personal outlay of thousands of pounds.

 

My offer still stands, I have a spare wheelchair here, if any brave person would like to use it for one month, then come back here and state what the experience was like, please get in touch.

 

The first thing you will notice is that 99.9% of your friends houses will not be accessible via a wheelchair, and even if you can manage to get into the house, most properties have the bathroom upstairs, so unless you want to make a mess of that new carpet your mate has just had laid, you have to make your apologies and leave.

 

The second thing you will notice is that at least 50% of pubs/restraunts, cafe's, shopping centres even though the Disability Discrimination Act of 1989 1995 and 1998 (DDA) stated that any business offering their services to an able bodied person must make reasonable adjustment in order to offer the same service to a disabled person.......lol, don't make me laugh, most don't even have accessible toilets.

 

Has anyone ever tried telephoning a caravan site and enquire if they have any disabled accessible caravans to hire for a holiday, the ones that do have them have a maximum of three, but most don't even know what you are on about.

 

Please take the time to look around you for the next month, and see just how many things you see that a disabled person in a wheelchair could not do, or would have extreme difficulty doing. It doesn't really strike able bodied people until they themselves find themselves in the situation of being in a wheelchair, hence the offer of a month's loan of one, £3,500 quid if you break it though (lol, just messing). Anyone going to JAE can use my wheelchair and take themselves off to the accessible toilets, I will guarantee that you would not make it on your own. (This is in no way slagging the JAE venue or organisers off, but a wheelchair user could not make it to the accessible toilets by themselves from where the 300zx stand is).

 

It is such a pitty that wheelchair handball is not yet an olympic sport, that is the sport I play (so I have to have a sport wheelchair that wont tip, watch some of the para-olympic games and you will see the chairs I mean) the cheapest of the cheap sports wheelchair costs £1,000, and they can only be used for sports, they would never go over the bumps and cracks in the pavements as they have very small wheels at the front.These chairs go from the £1,000 to many thousands of pounds, another outlay if a wheelchair user wants to play sports.

 

I could go on all night, but I think this may help some understand that disabled people do not just get everything handed out to them on a plate, and have to fight for a lot of things to change the present mentality of some. I am an ex paramedic as most of you will know, even from going into a wheelchair from that career was eye opening, even as a paramedic you do not realise just how tough it is for wheelchair users.

 

Cheers

 

Ian

Tell you what buddy, I will pay my road tax, and swap places with you as long as I can go back to my career, and as long as every 5 years you shell out the money for a new wheelchair. You have to pay road tax, I have to buy wheelchairs, do you know which one I would rather have to purchase, or is that a bit out of your thinking spectrum?

 

I have to say (without wanting to cause trouble) , not everyone who is disabled is in a wheelchair. My brother has learning difficulties and he qualifies for the blue badge but he is able bodied.

 

Also as a Motability specialist within my job I see all aspects of disability... missing limbs/wheelchair bound, arthritis, learning difficulty.......but I have to say 90% are able bodied and just morbidly obese to be brutally honest

I have to say (without wanting to cause trouble) , not everyone who is disabled is in a wheelchair. My brother has learning difficulties and he qualifies for the blue badge but he is able bodied.

 

Also as a Motability specialist within my job I see all aspects of disability... missing limbs/wheelchair bound, arthritis, learning difficulty.......but I have to say 90% are able bodied and just morbidly obese to be brutally honest

 

My mum qualifies and also has a blue badge, she has raynes disease, they thought it might be parkinson's at one point. she also has that mixed with arthritis which is considerably painful for her. she is allowed to drive but only on days its not to bad. if it gets any worse though she could lose her licence.

 

She still buys her own tax though for her car.

 

She still buys her own tax though for her car.

 

My brother doesn't get free RFL because I don't think he gets the mobility component of the DLA... but we have fought for years to try and get it so my mum (who is also riddled with arthritis) can get a motability car between them. According to the DLA neither of them are eligible which is ridiculous because both of them struggle over short distances... i'm sure if they were both morbidly obese it would be a different story. I see it DAY in DAY out in my job and it really ruffles my feathers.

 

In fact I just spoke to my old girl while writing this and she has informed me that his blue badge has been taken away now too.

as a twist to this i personally think bicycles should be taxed and insured, im sick of theses idiots jumping on and off the pavement when they feel like it, weaving in and out of traffic and when the feckers eventually get knocked off there bikes i think the motorist should be able to claim back off of them!

Also horses should be taxed just for the comedy value.

I qualify for a free badge and a card that lets me use staff toilets at any business establishment because of my ulcerative colitis :thumbup1: lol

 

As for the Prime Minister I say pay him £10,000,000 a year then youd get proper brains in the job. Anyone who is smart enough to run a country well isn't going to do it for £160k a year they are going to run a multi national company for an 8 figure salary.

I qualify for a free badge and a card that lets me use staff toilets at any business establishment because of my ulcerative colitis :thumbup1: lol

 

As for the Prime Minister I say pay him £10,000,000 a year then youd get proper brains in the job. Anyone who is smart enough to run a country well isn't going to do it for £160k a year they are going to run a multi national company for an 8 figure salary.

 

its the voters who stick them in power, not because of the PM candidates brain size, but who can lie the best.

its the voters who stick them in power, not because of the PM candidates brain size, but who can lie the best.

 

Yeah I know where you are coming from but nonw of them have the intelligence to put in to practice what they promise where as if the pay was better you'd get more able people offering to do the job.

Yeah I know where you are coming from but nonw of them have the intelligence to put in to practice what they promise where as if the pay was better you'd get more able people offering to do the job.

 

I see, you mean like the big banks here and in the US, that have done so well and not got us into this mess in he fist place!!!!!

 

Just in case it isn't obvious, more money equals more greed, corruption and ruthlessness (generally).

 

Why are the people tasked with keeping us safe (the forces) paid so little and yet the people who send them to risk their lives paid so much????

 

Maybe government should be like conscription and competent business people have to do a term for modest pay and be accountable for their decisions (yeah I know that would never happen).

I see, you mean like the big banks here and in the US, that have done so well and not got us into this mess in he fist place!!!!!

 

Just in case it isn't obvious, more money equals more greed, corruption and ruthlessness (generally).

 

Why are the people tasked with keeping us safe (the forces) paid so little and yet the people who send them to risk their lives paid so much????

 

Maybe government should be like conscription and competent business people have to do a term for modest pay and be accountable for their decisions (yeah I know that would never happen).

 

Why when people talk of big money wages does everyone scream banks? There are many people in many industries that are over seeing massive growth and employing the right people in the right places to achieve this. Just look at the telecommunication industry or the computing indutry to name just two.

 

Why would anyone want to run a country for a modest wage? I'm a postman and earn around £30k a year, I know I'd rather do this than have the responsibility of running a country for £160k.

LOL.. that is exactly the point.... why would you want anyone to run a country who didn't want to...

 

I don't have to prove that everyone that gets paid lots of many is crap.... I just have to show that being paid lost of money doesn't mean results!!!

 

you have no studies or examples of a democratic country working well under that setup.... my point stands.

 

 

 

 

LOLOLOL... this thread has been Sooooooooo hijacked.... :)

Well 160k is nothing for running the country I don't envy the guy at all... Wayne Rooney on the other hand gets £14million a year for being an average footballer and being as thick as pig's shit

as a twist to this i personally think bicycles should be taxed and insured, im sick of theses idiots jumping on and off the pavement when they feel like it, weaving in and out of traffic and when the feckers eventually get knocked off there bikes i think the motorist should be able to claim back off of them!

 

Off topic - but I agree totally mate! In fact I think anything that uses the public roads (obviously not pedestrians - LOL) should have 3rd party insurance; cyclists, horse riders etc. And not just for when cyclists jump red lights, get hit by a car causing damage to the car, but more for when the cyclists hit pedestrians....

Well 160k is nothing for running the country I don't envy the guy at all... Wayne Rooney on the other hand gets £14million a year for being an average footballer and being as thick as pig's shit

 

Dean mate - I have lost count of the number of times I said these words myself!!! Hell I even thought the same about Tony Blair - as much as I hated the man, he was running the country and no matter how badly he did it, he still had the burden of having to do it (and be judged for it as well). Rooney et al, enough said.....!

 

Richard:huh:

Off topic - but I agree totally mate! In fact I think anything that uses the public roads (obviously not pedestrians - LOL) should have 3rd party insurance; cyclists, horse riders etc. And not just for when cyclists jump red lights, get hit by a car causing damage to the car, but more for when the cyclists hit pedestrians....

 

I always had insurance with my horses as most sensible horse owners do, it covered third parties and i wouldnt have ridden on the roads without it, some drivers just dont think when it comes to animals on the roads!

LOL.. that is exactly the point.... why would you want anyone to run a country who didn't want to...

 

I don't have to prove that everyone that gets paid lots of many is crap.... I just have to show that being paid lost of money doesn't mean results!!!

 

you have no studies or examples of a democratic country working well under that setup.... my point stands.

 

 

 

 

LOLOLOL... this thread has been Sooooooooo hijacked.... :)

 

 

I would want to run a country for £10,000,000 a year and many others would, but not for £160k.

 

Name a country which you see as an ideal template then which we should follow? I can't think of one but I do think offering a much better wage would entice a much better candidate for the job.

I would want to run a country for £10,000,000 a year and many others would, but not for £160k.

 

Name a country which you see as an ideal template then which we should follow? I can't think of one but I do think offering a much better wage would entice a much better candidate for the job.

 

Well it worked for the bankers, didn't it? lol

Yet again someone mentions the bankers because they are the only people in the country who earn more than the prime minister.....................

Yet again someone mentions the bankers because they are the only people in the country who earn more than the prime minister.....................

 

No, I just think that your idea is crap and deserved an obvious answer showing where paying people vast amounts of money doesn't work.

 

Now can the thread get back on topic please.

No, I just think that your idea is crap and deserved an obvious answer showing where paying people vast amounts of money doesn't work.

 

Now can the thread get back on topic please.

 

It's crap because of one set of people who did a bad job when getting paid vast amounts of money? So is it a crap idea by people who say the prime minister should be paid less because there are a lot of people who are crap at their jobs on low pay?

 

You reply to an off topic post and then ask the thread to return to the original topic? Do as I say not as I do?

It's crap because of one set of people who did a bad job when getting paid vast amounts of money? So is it a crap idea by people who say the prime minister should be paid less because there are a lot of people who are crap at their jobs on low pay?

 

You reply to an off topic post and then ask the thread to return to the original topic? Do as I say not as I do?

 

 

I'm not going to argue with you so if you want to discuss your topic open a new thread.

Hello Vince....got told you had been sectioned:scared: What you upto??

Still dribbling in the community at large Mr.Nut. Now there's a parody on words lol. You still with the CIA Bud.?

Still dribbling in the community at large Mr.Nut. Now there's a parody on words lol. You still with the CIA Bud.?

 

LOL...no bud ime not,did'nt fit in with my anger managment sessions 3 times a week:winkiss:

On another note, I notice that nobody that have expressed views either way on this thread have not taken me up on my offer of using a wheelchair for 1 month, wonder exactly why that is???

zully you need to give it a rest