http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099187/Bodies-21-German-soldiers-buried-alive-WW1-trench-perfectly-preserved-94-years-later.html

When you see stuff like that in the grim light of day, well. What those men went through both sides. Wereally should be more greatfull for what we have history is dark

7.5 million men lost their lives on the western front alone. about 15 million deaths in total, and another 20 million casualties..... Should have been the war to end all wars..... yet here we are nearly 100 years later......

and now the Euro is failing..... Greece, Riots in Brussels...... Deja vu ?

 

Unelected politicians on what Sarkozy refers the euro to as adventure ?

 

It'll all end in tears

2012 end of the world as we know it, maybe iran will deploy the nukes, maybe america will who knows lol

 

it must have been horrific for both sides to go through what they did, but i have no sympathy for hitlers death sqauds like the ss, hope they died terrible deaths, evil people

".....................Even the skeleton of a goat was found, assumed to be a source of fresh milk for the soldiers...................."

 

Hmmm, it it just me, or is anyone else thinking that might not have been the only reason they had a goat down there......:wink::lol:

 

it must have been horrific for both sides to go through what they did, but i have no sympathy for hitlers death sqauds like the ss, hope they died terrible deaths, evil people

 

Hmm, do a bit of reading mate. The human condition is a strange thing.

 

I absolutely in no way condone the things that people have done and the atrocities committed upon others in the name of war is disgusting and abhorable, but we all like to think that we would all act a certain way when faced with certain situations... we like to think that our moral and ethical fibers would dictate our actions but as countless experiments have shown that is clearly not the case.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

the ss were hand picked because of their lack of morality and brutality, like a serial killer they enjoyed what they did and thought it an honour to part of the ss

 

maybe the wiki thing is right, they were still evil b4stards

The Milgrim experiment is crazy... studied it while doing my degree years ago... a massive proportion of people who partook in the experiment went beyond what they thought was "safe"... lots went beyond the point that was deemed as "life threatening"

 

It's been done in many unis, in many cultures all with varying percentages, but all scary results.

The Milgrim experiment is crazy... studied it while doing my degree years ago... a massive proportion of people who partook in the experiment went beyond what they thought was "safe"... lots went beyond the point that was deemed as "life threatening"

 

It's been done in many unis, in many cultures all with varying percentages, but all scary results.

 

similar thing to what derren brown does with his audience, but at the back of your mind they all know its an experiment and would probably go a bit further than normal

 

but its way over my head all that stuff, only know what i was taught at school about the nazis and particulary the ss

quick some one get Time Team there they might find something :lol::lol:

I may be slagged terribly her but even though Hitler was an evil man and he caused terrible attrosities but he was a very clever man,take a minute to think about it ,Here was a man who was incarcerated in prison after the first world war, he managed to rise in the ranks of the Reicht to become the leader of Germany . Ok he was an evil evil man and I hate all he stood for and this evil man was the reason the Vw beetle looks the way it does So through all his madness He had a high level of intellagence

Just not clever enough. us brits had more brains :lol::lol:

Just not clever enough. us brits had more brains :lol::lol:

 

Thats true enough mate ,that is because we have higher intelect than them,pmsl

and the brittish invented everything,just about

Just not clever enough. us brits had more brains :lol::lol:

 

and bigger balls

and bigger balls

 

nah, just the correct amount :lol:

pmsl

Did you know that it was never proven that he only had one *****ck.. and it was said to be rumour sent around to boost moral.

Did you know that it was never proven that he only had one *****ck.. and it was said to be rumour sent around to boost moral.

 

must have been true, there was a song about it lol

He was also a cowerd,By killing himself and not standing for trial

Did you know that it was never proven that he only had one *****ck.. and it was said to be rumour sent around to boost moral.

 

must have been true, there was a song about it lol

 

The other one is in the Albert Hall. So it must be true :lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

 

 

He was also a cowerd,By killing himself and not standing for trial

 

also iirc he was never found. but there was somesort of a secret grave??

:lol::lol::lol:

 

 

 

 

also iirc he was never found. but there was somesort of a secret grave??

Thats right,but they found his skull and some scientists did a DNA test on it and it was said to be his aswell as some of his bone's It was also suffering from scorch marks as it was said that Hitler ordered some of his officers to burn his body after his death,,,,,,,,,,,Discovery channel is great,:yes:

the ss were hand picked because of their lack of morality and brutality, like a serial killer they enjoyed what they did and thought it an honour to part of the ss

 

maybe the wiki thing is right, they were still evil b4stards

 

The SS were'nt all fanatical Nazi's, a large number of Waffen SS (the military arm of the SS, not the political arm) were career soldiers,not conscripted thugs.I had an uncle who was an SS Panzergrenadier (fought at Stalingrad, then sent to France and captured by the Yanks in Normandy, shipped to a POW camp in England, put to work on a farm and met my Aunt,eventually married her and settled in England),and he was a career soldier who despised what the Nazis stood for but fought because he was first and foremost a German soldier.A large proportion of German career soldiers hated Hitler with a passion.I have actually still got his Russian Front campaign medal.

Edited February 10, 201213 yr by Rebel Scum

The SS were'nt all fanatical Nazi's, a large number of Waffen SS (the military arm of the SS, not the political arm) were career soldiers,not conscripted thugs.I had an uncle who was an SS Panzergrenadier (fought at Stalingrad, then sent to France and captured by the Yanks in Normandy, shipped to a POW camp in England, put to work on a farm and met my Aunt,eventually married her and settled in England),and he was a career soldier who despised what the Nazis stood for but fought because he was first and foremost a German soldier.A large proportion of German career soldiers hated Hitler with a passion.I have actually still got his Russian Front campaign medal.

 

 

Interesting story that mate, and that's the strange thing about many a soldiers mentality, from day one you learn to do what you're told, when you're told and for the most part your own personal views and opinions must be put on the back burner. Mate, I'm sure that your uncle was one of many SS soldiers that despite disagreeing with the policies of those above him were first and foremost soldiers, who did what they were ordered to do.

 

War does strange things to people, it can bring out both the best and the worst in people, as many accounts of attrocities against civillians in Vietnam demonstrated.

 

I'm not in anyway condoning similar actions, however until a person has walked in a person's shoes, witnessed what they have witnessed and endured what they have endured there is no way that anybody can say for certain that they would act any differently if placed in similar circumstances.

 

War's dirty and judgement can't and shouldn't be determined many years later by non combatants viewing the situation through idealistic eyes

 

the big man will judge when the day comes

Interesting story that mate, and that's the strange thing about many a soldiers mentality, from day one you learn to do what you're told, when you're told and for the most part your own personal views and opinions must be put on the back burner. Mate, I'm sure that your uncle was one of many SS soldiers that despite disagreeing with the policies of those above him were first and foremost soldiers, who did what they were ordered to do.

 

War does strange things to people, it can bring out both the best and the worst in people, as many accounts of attrocities against civillians in Vietnam demonstrated.

 

I'm not in anyway condoning similar actions, however until a person has walked in a person's shoes, witnessed what they have witnessed and endured what they have endured there is no way that anybody can say for certain that they would act any differently if placed in similar circumstances.

 

War's dirty and judgement can't and shouldn't be determined many years later by non combatants viewing the situation through idealistic eyes

 

the big man will judge when the day comes

 

Very well said mate.