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No offense, but where did you get this rubbish from ?

 

UK reviews only covered the LWB since the SWB was never available, and in the US the TT was only available as SWB, and the LWB only ever came as NA.

 

It is in the nissan 300zx enthusiasts compananion,I will get the quote from the book ,which states that the nissan engineers admitted that the long wheel base was the more stable platform. and the reporters from all the motoring press where flown to Nissans test track to test all the models in the range aswell as at the same time they tested the 300zx along with a supras,porsche 928 and 924 turbo and non turbo variants,and also in road &track portfolio.said the same

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*cough* bump

 

I don't think so, but you will probably struggle to sell at this time of year.

It is in the nissan 300zx enthusiasts compananion,I will get the quote from the book ,which states that the nissan engineers admitted that the long wheel base was the more stable platform. and the reporters from all the motoring press where flown to Nissans test track to test all the models in the range aswell as at the same time they tested the 300zx along with a suprs,porsche 928 and 924 turbo and non turbo variants,and also in road &track portfolio.

 

"more stable platform" doesn't mean better handling........... Just easier to keep in a straight line, and the rest is up to the driver.

 

 

But then again I'm bias............ As the username would suggest :)

Seeing all these lovely SWB zeds it's hard to see why they are not selling at what i think is pretty good money.

 

Pete21, yours looks lush mate, but as my esteemed colleague above has stated.. it's a bad time to sell.

I don't think so, but you will probably struggle to sell at this time of year.

 

You don't think so as in the price is to high?

You don't think so as in the price is to high?

 

No, I mean I don't think you have overpriced it mate.

It is in the nissan 300zx enthusiasts compananion,I will get the quote from the book ,which states that the nissan engineers admitted that the long wheel base was the more stable platform. and the reporters from all the motoring press where flown to Nissans test track to test all the models in the range aswell as at the same time they tested the 300zx along with a suprs,porsche 928 and 924 turbo and non turbo variants,and also in road &track portfolio.

 

I have the book, read it many times, dont recall that quote, but a 'more Stable platform' is not the same as better handling though.

 

A Longer wheel base will theoretically offer greater high speed stability at the loss of low-mid speed response and agility. I can assure you that the SWB is still a very stable high speed handler though.

 

I didnt want to come in here and continue the lwb vs swb debate, but since these claims were being expressed, then I would say as somebody who has driven far more examples of both than most members have even ever seen, and as an owner of several examples of both.....I personally couldn't go back to a LWB after the Slicktop, and that's mostly due to the greater swb handling and feel differences.

I have the book, read it many times, dont recall that quote, but a 'more Stable platform' is not the same as better handling though.

 

A Longer wheel base will theoretically offer greater high speed stability at the loss of low-mid speed response and agility. I can assure you that the SWB is still a very stable high speed handler though.

 

I didnt want to come in here and continue the lwb vs swb debate, but since these claims were being expressed, then I would say as somebody who has driven far more examples of both than most members have even ever seen, and as an owner of several examples of both.....I personally couldn't go back to a LWB after the Slicktop, and that's mostly due to the greater swb handling and feel differences.

 

 

I only wanted a slicky after my old slicky

I have the book, read it many times, dont recall that quote, but a 'more Stable platform' is not the same as better handling though.

 

A Longer wheel base will theoretically offer greater high speed stability at the loss of low-mid speed response and agility. I can assure you that the SWB is still a very stable high speed handler though.

 

I didnt want to come in here and continue the lwb vs swb debate, but since these claims were being expressed, then I would say as somebody who has driven far more examples of both than most members have even ever seen, and as an owner of several examples of both.....I personally couldn't go back to a LWB after the Slicktop, and that's mostly due to the greater swb handling and feel differences.

 

Page 69 of the Ray huttons book,about half way down,I Quote"Nissans own test drivers admit that the 2+2with its longer wheelbase(101.2"against 96.5")and more even weight distribution is the more stable and better balanced of the two versions,while the 2 seater is the more agile and responsive ,but they say that the difference is not great" un quote.I might of got the bit with the test drivers and engineers wrong but it does say it and obviously the shortie will be more responsive in turn in ,as they have a higher steering ratio and the shorter body,Personaly I have only ever driven a lwb,so I cant go with personal experiance I just said what it says in the book> and i mean no offence to anyone I am just going with what I have read

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Page 69 of the Ray huttons book,about half way down,I Quote"Nissans own test drivers admit that the 2+2with its longer wheelbase(101.2"against 96.5")and more even weight distribution is the more stable and better balanced of the two versions,while the 2 seater is the more agile and responsive ,but they say that the difference is not great" un quote.I might of got the bit with the test drivers and engineers wrong but it does say it and obviously the shortie will be more responsive in turn in ,as they have a higher steering ratio and the shorter body,Personaly I have only ever driven a lwb,so I cant go with personal experiance I just said what it says in the book

 

Same steering ratio (only the U.S TT has a quicker steering ratio. The U.S NA (swb & lwb) has same ratio as all of ours).

 

When driving them hard its how the entire car reacts to driver input and external forces, the whole body feels tighter and more rigid, its nimbler on its feet in all directions, and its lower weight means its a little quicker all round too, although thats less noticable. Getting out of a SWB and driving a LWB I can literally feel the chassis flexing and wobbling. The LWB makes a great GT car and Im very fond of it, but the SWB a better sports car.

 

A shorter wheel base can make a car feel less stable under high speed cornering, but its all to do with the ratio between track width (distance from centre of left wheel to centre of right wheel) and wheelbase (distance from centre of front wheel to centre of rear wheel) and there are a number of theories in terms of ideal ratios, but even the SWB Z is at the "stable" end of that range compared to many others sports/race cars.

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For a moderator you are dammed if you do ban and dammed if you dont. But dont you worry about who got away with what we have our guide lines and stick to them.I think you will find we are very tolerant here and you will be given a chance up to a certain point.

 

I agree :yes:

Same steering ratio (only the U.S TT has a quicker steering ratio. The NA wether swb or lwb has same ratio as all of ours).

 

When driving them hard its how the entire car reacts to driver input and external forces, the whole body feels tighter and more rigid, its nimbler on its feet in all directions, and its lower weight means its a little quicker all round too, although thats less noticable. Getting out of a SWB and driving a LWB I can literally feel the chassis flexing and wobbling. The LWB makes a great GT car and Im very fond of it, but the SWB a better sports car.

 

As i said mate I havent had any experiance with a shortie, I have only ever had 2 lwb's and I like them both as they look nearly identicle and a zed is a zed,wither it be a shortie,or long wheelbase :sweatdrop:

Just to defend the mighty Shorty its lighter hense faster lol and more stylish and its ass doesnt look like a stretched left cheek, Like the estates do !!!!!! :tongue::tongue: I've probably advertised mine at the highest price for a shorty but I know how much has been spent how good she is and im in no rush to sell, frankly the more i drive it the more im rekindling my love of it.

 

Right let the stones be thrown and attacks begin :tt2::tt2::tt2:

 

At the end of the day a car is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it so the whole who's is worth what arguement is irelevant, we all knew when buying these superb cars that they would cost a fortune and we would loose money left right and centre, but find me a women who can put a smile on your face every time you "get in her" and ill happily eat Andy Isherwoods hat!!! lol

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my lwb has been on ebay for 3 weeks now

 

 

At the risk of being Ganged up on, If it has been for sale 3 weeks and had NOTHING then the price is to high.

 

We can sit here and try and talk prices up but realistically it aint gonna happen.

 

300zx is now a cheap motor and I cannot see this changing.

 

Taking Jeffs point, you can get strong money for anything if you offer credit.

 

Thats why these robbing Barstewards stay in business

 

http://www.brighthouse.co.uk/televisions/42-inch-philips-led-tv/

 

When you can buy it for £1,750 less here

 

http://www.hispek.com/philips/3d-televisions/philips-42pfl7666t-42-3d-full-hd-led-tv-with-ambilight-spectra-2-and-pixel-precise-hd-and-free-5yr-warranty-pd-9891.php

 

 

By the way I love 300ZX's and will have another one at some point.

I just wont be paying over the odds for it:wink:

lol nice post ZX-TT and my I add that having owened both L and SWD I find the SWB nicer to drive it feels more planted to the road and better on the corners. The petrol tank on the SWB is moved to the middle of the car which probably helps the way the car handels. But saying that its nice having the extra seats and bigger boot so I guess you have advantages in both versions its all down to what suit's you:thumbup1:

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Swb boot is deeper im pretty sure so I would check cubic measurements on both

I can literally feel the chassis flexing and wobbling. The LWB makes a great GT car and Im very fond of it, but the SWB a better sports car..

 

 

I doubt you could in mine. Its bloody solid and riged as hell. my car has next to no lean in the bends. But i have spent alot of money on it and never drien a stock zed lol!

Technically it was Betamax as it was a higher quality but VHS took off quicker !!

 

:lol:

Technically it was Betamax as it was a higher quality but VHS took off quicker !!

 

Because the porn industry used it, because it was cheaper to produce, not everyone knows that ;)

VHS tapes hurt more when your sister threw one at your head, I know that for a fact! lol

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