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I don't post very often and there's not too many female Z drivers I guess. But I wonder those who are, whether you share the same experience as me?

 

We were in convoy, me and TonyB (my better half!) travelling south to the Z World Bash (thanks Jeff and Linda, it was brilliant!). I've told Tony how this happens to a female driving on her own, but he still needs to see it to truly understand how it works. And yes, it did happen a couple of times to me.

 

Now before we go any further, I'm not paranoid! I've been told more than once how this game works, mainly by those who drive white vans for a living ... sorry any of you on here! Guys who drive BMWs also play the same game, and others. The game is about scoring points with the aim of driving a lone female onto the hard shoulder. That scores them high!!!! They love 'tail-gating'. They will vroom up behind you (if you're a female driving alone) pushing ... pushing ... pushing ... and when you move aside to let them go, they move in front and then go slow. They harrass you to such an extent it can become a nightmare. Until I got my Z, that is!!!!! Now at least I can floor it and leave them well behind!!!!! Which is what I do. Unless, of course, they also have a performance car and accept it as a challenge!

 

It happened a couple of times to me while on the way to the Z World Bash last weekend. And it got me wondering, is there any other female on here who shares these kind of experiences? If so, I'd love to hear from you.

 

It's happened to me whether I'm driving a BMW, a Peugeot 206 or 307 SW, an Audi, even a Citreon ... It's not about the car. It's the fact it's a female driver that is the lure. :helpsmilie:

 

Tony is just begging to see one try while he's near me ... he says to get on the phone, ask for motorway police, explain what's happening, take their number if poss., ask their help ... but to be honest, it's all about focus, keeping out of danger, keeping safe.

 

Happy to share your thoughts :winkiss:

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By getting on the phone she means on the Car Phone...... not a hand held !

 

And on our way back there was a car sitting right on her tail..... I pulled over to let her go past and to see what was going on but she pulled over to and it was a stupid kid in Rover 200zr.... went past me screaming so I just floored mine right up to him with lights flashing..... he soon moved over and didn't bother us again.... why do zeds attract the tossers ?

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This isn't just females Jan, this happens to me all the time with Van drivers and Beemer drivers. More so these days with Audis for some strange reason. On Saturday on the way back up north from ZedWorld I had an Audi A4 driver right up the rear of the Z in the fast lane, pulled into the middle lane, he followed, pulled into the slow lane, he followed. Now normally in the Z, I'd have down'd it a couple of gears, left him for dust and thought nothing of it, but on this particular occassion I was trying to keep Rose in my rear view mirror who was driving the Espace back to Donny, so it was especially annoying, I slowed right down and he eventually overtook me, then pulled in infront and slowed right down, what a PRICK!

I don't post very often and there's not too many female Z drivers I guess. But I wonder those who are, whether you share the same experience as me?

 

We were in convoy, me and TonyB (my better half!) travelling south to the Z World Bash (thanks Jeff and Linda, it was brilliant!). I've told Tony how this happens to a female driving on her own, but he still needs to see it to truly understand how it works. And yes, it did happen a couple of times to me.

 

Now before we go any further, I'm not paranoid! I've been told more than once how this game works, mainly by those who drive white vans for a living ... sorry any of you on here! Guys who drive BMWs also play the same game, and others. The game is about scoring points with the aim of driving a lone female onto the hard shoulder. That scores them high!!!! They love 'tail-gating'. They will vroom up behind you (if you're a female driving alone) pushing ... pushing ... pushing ... and when you move aside to let them go, they move in front and then go slow. They harrass you to such an extent it can become a nightmare. Until I got my Z, that is!!!!! Now at least I can floor it and leave them well behind!!!!! Which is what I do. Unless, of course, they also have a performance car and accept it as a challenge!

 

It happened a couple of times to me while on the way to the Z World Bash last weekend. And it got me wondering, is there any other female on here who shares these kind of experiences? If so, I'd love to hear from you.

 

It's happened to me whether I'm driving a BMW, a Peugeot 206 or 307 SW, an Audi, even a Citreon ... It's not about the car. It's the fact it's a female driver that is the lure. :helpsmilie:

 

Tony is just begging to see one try while he's near me ... he says to get on the phone, ask for motorway police, explain what's happening, take their number if poss., ask their help ... but to be honest, it's all about focus, keeping out of danger, keeping safe.

 

Happy to share your thoughts :winkiss:

 

Hi Jan,

 

Talk to ROOBARB on here, she will clarify what you have said and more lol

 

Cheerz

 

Chris

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Thanks for sharing that. I wasn't sure whether it was a female only thing or not. At the time it feels like an imminent hostile take-over, some kind of war that you become a part of without even knowing. And often you don't even know the rules.

 

It happened big time just before I met Tony a couple of years ago now. Young guys in black car, tinted windows, sped past in the fast lane with Mickey Mouse flying on their ariel. They waved as they passed, and I didn't take any notice. But then suddenly they were in my path, slowing right down. I moved over, they did the same. I moved back, right over into the slow lane. They followed, but this time giving me less and less room for manoevre. And they were mouthing from their windows (to put it politely!).

 

Okay ... I thought ... enough! So gradually we got back into the middle lane. Then into the fast and I pushed my foot to the floor. It was just as I was gaining distance between us that a plain police car behind suddenly pushed up its sign and pulled me over. Turned out they'd been following Mickey Mouse for a good many miles. But then I floored it and they pulled me instead, while they whizzed past hooting and shouting and carrying on. The police let me off. And if ever I'm in that territory now I'm very law abiding, very careful, and always a considerate driver :smartass:

 

Something else I've tried is suddenly going off at a junction without warning and then coming back onto the motorway so I'm behind them. But it doesn't always work. They seem up to poodling along, waiting to see if it's a ploy. And then they start big time, as if it's some kind of punishment.

 

I just wish they'd really have a go when Tony is riding ahead of me and me behind. But they never come out and play on our terms ... do they? :2guns:

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Thanks Chris

 

I'll see what comes and who picks up this thread.

 

Jan :yes:

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Thanks for the offer Zedzilla ... next time then? :clap:

Thanks for the offer Zedzilla ... next time then? :clap:

 

I'll gladly call any woman who drives a z between the ages of 23-28 :whistling:

 

On a more serious note, some people are just bullies and ba***rds

Thanks for sharing that. I wasn't sure whether it was a female only thing or not. At the time it feels like an imminent hostile take-over, some kind of war that you become a part of without even knowing. And often you don't even know the rules.

 

It happened big time just before I met Tony a couple of years ago now. Young guys in black car, tinted windows, sped past in the fast lane with Mickey Mouse flying on their ariel. They waved as they passed, and I didn't take any notice. But then suddenly they were in my path, slowing right down. I moved over, they did the same. I moved back, right over into the slow lane. They followed, but this time giving me less and less room for manoevre. And they were mouthing from their windows (to put it politely!).

 

Okay ... I thought ... enough! So gradually we got back into the middle lane. Then into the fast and I pushed my foot to the floor. It was just as I was gaining distance between us that a plain police car behind suddenly pushed up its sign and pulled me over. Turned out they'd been following Mickey Mouse for a good many miles. But then I floored it and they pulled me instead, while they whizzed past hooting and shouting and carrying on. The police let me off. And if ever I'm in that territory now I'm very law abiding, very careful, and always a considerate driver :smartass:

 

Something else I've tried is suddenly going off at a junction without warning and then coming back onto the motorway so I'm behind them. But it doesn't always work. They seem up to poodling along, waiting to see if it's a ploy. And then they start big time, as if it's some kind of punishment.

 

I just wish they'd really have a go when Tony is riding ahead of me and me behind. But they never come out and play on our terms ... do they? :2guns:

 

 

My advice to any female who feels this way, dont drive anymore. The roads will be safer:devil2:

 

Only joking.. its not that you are female, but they are tossers....

 

Pretty much the same happened to me. (sorry but I drive a BMW, do a lot of miles and is a comfortable motorway warrior).. couple of daft arses playing games with the wife and kids in the car. After a while and several miles of backing right off trying to keep my distance as my family were with me, I thought Im off. whacked it into the inside because I was coming off, got beside them and told them to pull over... which of course the faggots didnt. I indicated to pull off and was doing about 85 leptons but foot off the throttle. A knob in disco decided he didnt want to be passed on the inside so pulled in front of me and yanked the brakes on... I was furious at this point and the guy in the disco knew he was in trouble...

 

This is where I got my lesson.. I was pulled by an unmarked and a very reasonable copper. Firstly he was going to pull the young lads as he had been watching what was going on ( had it taped for later), then he was going to pull the disco, as he said he is the polieman not somebody else and his job to slow people down safely. He pulled me to calm me down. He was fully understanding of why I was raging as he had seen the incident. If I had remained calm the other knobs would have been pulled and would have received points..

 

Its funny how things escalate, people get involved in things they shouldnt and unfortunately accidents happen. Best to keep calm and stay out of the way.

 

My lesson learnt....:death:

Not all van drivers are that way,i drive a lwb transit aswell a the zed and i will always let ladies by if they are driving a nice car, purely because i want to have a look at what the driver is like. But i do agree in what your saying, recently a couple of pillocks hassling a nice female in a RS6, whether because of the car or that she was clearly better off than them. Yep they did the same, driving right up close to her, then overtake and get in front then slow right down.

She was bothered by the way they were driving, so i stepped in, started pushing them away from her by driving to intimidate them, all of a sudden they didnt want to play in their crappy saxo when confronted with a 3 ton transit. When we slowed into the traffic, she wound down the window said thank you and gave me a nice smile.

The guys in the saxo were eyeing up the chances with me to have a go, but decided against it.

Yep i am a big lad.

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Well, yes, if you're a big giant then it helps. Size can be an issue also, I guess. But as has been said already, it's the eyeing, and the nosing, and the 'let's see if we can shake her' or even better 'frighten her into submission and get her to pull over onto the hard shoulder, preferably without a cop in the way' attitude that starts the ball rolling. :wacko:

 

And before you know it you're right in the middle of a war that you didn't start and you don't know how to finish :taz:

 

I've had it too many times on the roads and it doesn't matter what the distance or what the car. Female on her own ... yummy! I just become fair game. And I've even had two cars before now playing games, mincing me in the middle of them.

 

I'm interested to know what other females do ... or have done in the past ... and I'm defnitely interested if this is happening to anyone else ... male or female ... because once you're in it and it's happened before there's a feeling of 'Why me?'

 

And 'GET ME OUTTA HERE!' :sweatdrop:

Well, yes, if you're a big giant then it helps. Size can be an issue also, I guess. But as has been said already, it's the eyeing, and the nosing, and the 'let's see if we can shake her' or even better 'frighten her into submission and get her to pull over onto the hard shoulder, preferably without a cop in the way' attitude that starts the ball rolling. :wacko:

 

And before you know it you're right in the middle of a war that you didn't start and you don't know how to finish :taz:

 

I've had it too many times on the roads and it doesn't matter what the distance or what the car. Female on her own ... yummy! I just become fair game. And I've even had two cars before now playing games, mincing me in the middle of them.

 

I'm interested to know what other females do ... or have done in the past ... and I'm defnitely interested if this is happening to anyone else ... male or female ... because once you're in it and it's happened before there's a feeling of 'Why me?'

 

And 'GET ME OUTTA HERE!' :sweatdrop:

 

You could go on the defence.

 

I saw a numberplate surround here on a chicks car and it read:

 

If you're going to sit up my arse...

 

 

...at least pull my hair.

I got this lots in my MR2, no-one ever gave me any grief in Zedward, possibly just because its lary colour and the fact most other road users wouldn't recognise the car? but I never had any bother in it. Now I drive a boring Omega, I don't get noticed at all, which suits me fine!

Well, yes, if you're a big giant then it helps. Size can be an issue also, I guess. But as has been said already, it's the eyeing, and the nosing, and the 'let's see if we can shake her' or even better 'frighten her into submission and get her to pull over onto the hard shoulder, preferably without a cop in the way' attitude that starts the ball rolling. :wacko:

 

And before you know it you're right in the middle of a war that you didn't start and you don't know how to finish :taz:

 

I've had it too many times on the roads and it doesn't matter what the distance or what the car. Female on her own ... yummy! I just become fair game. And I've even had two cars before now playing games, mincing me in the middle of them.

 

I'm interested to know what other females do ... or have done in the past ... and I'm defnitely interested if this is happening to anyone else ... male or female ... because once you're in it and it's happened before there's a feeling of 'Why me?'

 

And 'GET ME OUTTA HERE!' :sweatdrop:

 

My missus has an ML and just had bull bars fitted.. I have to admit it is really intimidating when you look on the mirror and all you can see is polished chrome... my missus is tiny and the amount of times weve been in the Zed and Ive heard her say.. "wish I was in the ML" lol...

Come to think of it my father had a mitsubishi 3000gt, bright red big sports car, no problems at all in it never tailgated nothing...

 

Drove my mothers toyota echo sedan and would get tailgated almost everytime he drove it.

 

I guess it's just an attention thing, just ignore them and continue on as you were, don't even bother glancing the mirror, all they want is a reaction.

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Hey ... thanks for all the postings ... it's proving to be a very interesting evening! :smartass:

 

But one thing you have to know. Ignoring the attentions doesn't go far. Because they really will up the anti and want to grab you where it hurts in order to do so. Believe me, I've been there! I've tried that. And you simply can't just poodle along as if nothing is happening, when other dirvers are suddenly giving you a wide berth, and the nutters just keep on coming ... keep on upping the anti ... making you switch lanes .... slow ... speed ... switch lanes ... slow ... speed ... slow ... you get the idea? :closedeyes:

 

I don't know why ... I don't know when ... but it happens anyway.

 

And like I said, I've been told it's a game they play. The police know the game. The drivers will call one another and feast on the adventure that is happening, even bringing those nearby to see some action.

 

I used to work with offenders ... I mean the real bad guys. It was they who told me. I have also been told by a couple of white van drivers who play the game themselves. They say it relieves the boredom of trips across the UK. I wondered what would happen when I started driving the Z ... now I know. And they're up for the challenge BIG TIME! :2guns:

 

So what do other Z drivers do to avoid the frustration, the stress, the angst? Is there a fail safe method of getting away smoothly other than flooring it?

 

What about Tony's latest suggestion: get a flashing light like the police have and switch it on when the fun starts and they get the message -

 

'I SUGGEST YOU GET OFF MY TAIL. I'M ON THE PHONE TO THE POLICE. I'M GIVING THEM YOUR REGISTRATION NUMBER' :hammer:

i get it in the firms van weirdly, i was once in the middle lane and moved over to the inside lane only to see a guy in a silver vectra flying down the inside lane undertaking everyone he slammed on his brakes at the last second and sat on my arse honestly 3foot from my bumper even thogh there were numerous oppertunitys to overtake so i dabbed the brakes every few hundered meters or so he backed off i carryed on then out of knowere he flew in front of me from the outside lane damn near took the front of the van off and slowed right down i just sat behind him with my high beams on and he got the hump and left, although that point if i had the zeds power i might have pulled around him and tossed some screwdrivers out of the window at him but probly best i didnt lol

 

tbh i drive round london for most of the day everyday and ive come to the conclusion that about 90% of people are sensible but its the 10% who you remember for driving like total idiots,

 

the zed on the other hand its more boy racers in corsa's and clios that think their cars a bit special and think because you own a fast car you should drive it fast all the time and try and get you to do so, probly best just not to rise to it just sit behind them untill they get bored and if they harras you id agree with tony just call the police

They can't really do anything if its a plastic mock kids toy gun there is no way you could inflict any harm upon them.

 

I once years ago got tailgated so bad that they actually nudged my car twice... thats when i got really pissed off and grabbed my old clutch pressure plate that i had just changed... opened the window and lobbed it through thier windscreen.

 

Normally i wouldn't but i was a bit like this... :taz:

 

Cant condone that...

 

But would have loved to have seen it.... pmsl...

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Okay guys, new scenario. And this stuff really does happen to me. I may be an author, but I don't have to even start making up stories cause there's already enough going on out there ... and believe me when I say the 'pen is mightier than the sword'. It's the only weapon I have!! And I use it well!!!!

 

Country road in Warwickshire. To be honest, I turned too early, took an immediate right down a very narrow country lane because Gobby (Tony's sat-nav) told me to (duh!). Anyway, the dark blue BMW Z4 that had been hastling me earlier, tail gating etc and I knew must be resident around that area because I'd seen him a few times before but managed to avoid his attentions ... he was there, just ahead of me. :whistling:

 

I turned in behind him. He came to an almost stop. And then did stop. He just sat there. Idling. Doing absolutely nothing at all. Now if you are a guy, you would no doubt hoot a bit, open your door and get out, yell a good deal, ask what the f*** they're doing, even end up going to his door and banging on the window. But if you're a female you don't really want to go there.

 

I've had a bad experience on the M42 when I broke down and a guy pulled in behind me, parking bumper to bumper, trying to get me to open my door, offering me a cell phone, etc. And after a looooooong time a police car stopped and ended up calling the RAC for me, while arresting the guy for abuse because there was absolutely nothing wrong with his car and he'd had no reason to stop in the first place.

 

But I digress.

 

I flashed my lights in the little Warwickshire lane. Hooted my horn. But I wasn't about to get out the car for anything. The lane was dark and quiet and still. Nothing moved. Tony was in meetings so I knew I couldn't get him on the phone if I tried. He's since fitted a panic button on my phone as well as 'Latitude' so he'll know where I am if in trouble. But right then and there, for more than an hour, the driver was amusing himself at my expense, moving at a pace, then slowing, then stopping again. And it was like that all the way up that lane.

 

There was no ignoring him or getting away from him, too narrow to turn around. You don't have to be on a wide open motorway for games to happen. Just someone trying to get from A to B minding their own business.

 

What do you do in that situation ... remembering you're a female and want to stay safe? :confused1:

Okay guys, new scenario. And this stuff really does happen to me. I may be an author, but I don't have to even start making up stories cause there's already enough going on out there ... and believe me when I say the 'pen is mightier than the sword'. It's the only weapon I have!! And I use it well!!!!

 

Country road in Warwickshire. To be honest, I turned too early, took an immediate right down a very narrow country lane because Gobby (Tony's sat-nav) told me to (duh!). Anyway, the dark blue BMW Z4 that had been hastling me earlier, tail gating etc and I knew must be resident around that area because I'd seen him a few times before but managed to avoid his attentions ... he was there, just ahead of me. :whistling:

 

I turned in behind him. He came to an almost stop. And then did stop. He just sat there. Idling. Doing absolutely nothing at all. Now if you are a guy, you would no doubt hoot a bit, open your door and get out, yell a good deal, ask what the f*** they're doing, even end up going to his door and banging on the window. But if you're a female you don't really want to go there.

 

I've had a bad experience on the M42 when I broke down and a guy pulled in behind me, parking bumper to bumper, trying to get me to open my door, offering me a cell phone, etc. And after a looooooong time a police car stopped and ended up calling the RAC for me, while arresting the guy for abuse because there was absolutely nothing wrong with his car and he'd had no reason to stop in the first place.

 

But I digress.

 

I flashed my lights in the little Warwickshire lane. Hooted my horn. But I wasn't about to get out the car for anything. The lane was dark and quiet and still. Nothing moved. Tony was in meetings so I knew I couldn't get him on the phone if I tried. He's since fitted a panic button on my phone as well as 'Latitude' so he'll know where I am if in trouble. But right then and there, for more than an hour, the driver was amusing himself at my expense, moving at a pace, then slowing, then stopping again. And it was like that all the way up that lane.

 

There was no ignoring him or getting away from him, too narrow to turn around. You don't have to be on a wide open motorway for games to happen. Just someone trying to get from A to B minding their own business.

 

What do you do in that situation ... remembering you're a female and want to stay safe? :confused1:

 

:tank:

When I was 18 (god that was 10 years ago) when you used to be able to find free parking in the town centre. You used to sit in a queue and take your turn to park facing the wall. we were sat about 3 back, my mum was driving. Somebody pulled out of a spot and the woman at the front in her big s class went to pull in. A meat head flew in, wrong way in the one way system and parked in the spot. The woman honked and shouted very politeley I may add to the man who locked his car and started to walk off. He was pissing himself laughing.. he shouted to her, when you drive as well as me you can do what you like...

 

This is a true story, honest.. she revved the car up and accelerated hard into the back of his motor, forcing it through the wall. She got out the car and shouted to him, when you are as rich as me you can do what you want and walked off...

 

Classiest chick I have ever seen....

When I was 18 (god that was 10 years ago) when you used to be able to find free parking in the town centre. You used to sit in a queue and take your turn to park facing the wall. we were sat about 3 back, my mum was driving. Somebody pulled out of a spot and the woman at the front in her big s class went to pull in. A meat head flew in, wrong way in the one way system and parked in the spot. The woman honked and shouted very politeley I may add to the man who locked his car and started to walk off. He was pissing himself laughing.. he shouted to her, when you drive as well as me you can do what you like...

 

This is a true story, honest.. she revved the car up and accelerated hard into the back of his motor, forcing it through the wall. She got out the car and shouted to him, when you are as rich as me you can do what you want and walked off...

 

Classiest chick I have ever seen....

 

Ahahahaahaa

 

hahahaa

 

*tears down face*

I'd wanna get out just so he thought he had me then *wham* bye bye plums weird car stalker man......:pinch:

 

You know, for a nurse you arn't very nice.

 

But you got class.

You know, for a nurse you arn't very nice.

 

But you got class.

 

Thanks, well this was my previous sig lol

 

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Okay guys, new scenario. And this stuff really does happen to me. I may be an author, but I don't have to even start making up stories cause there's already enough going on out there ... and believe me when I say the 'pen is mightier than the sword'. It's the only weapon I have!! And I use it well!!!!

 

Country road in Warwickshire. To be honest, I turned too early, took an immediate right down a very narrow country lane because Gobby (Tony's sat-nav) told me to (duh!). Anyway, the dark blue BMW Z4 that had been hastling me earlier, tail gating etc and I knew must be resident around that area because I'd seen him a few times before but managed to avoid his attentions ... he was there, just ahead of me. :whistling:

 

I turned in behind him. He came to an almost stop. And then did stop. He just sat there. Idling. Doing absolutely nothing at all. Now if you are a guy, you would no doubt hoot a bit, open your door and get out, yell a good deal, ask what the f*** they're doing, even end up going to his door and banging on the window. But if you're a female you don't really want to go there.

 

I've had a bad experience on the M42 when I broke down and a guy pulled in behind me, parking bumper to bumper, trying to get me to open my door, offering me a cell phone, etc. And after a looooooong time a police car stopped and ended up calling the RAC for me, while arresting the guy for abuse because there was absolutely nothing wrong with his car and he'd had no reason to stop in the first place.

 

But I digress.

 

I flashed my lights in the little Warwickshire lane. Hooted my horn. But I wasn't about to get out the car for anything. The lane was dark and quiet and still. Nothing moved. Tony was in meetings so I knew I couldn't get him on the phone if I tried. He's since fitted a panic button on my phone as well as 'Latitude' so he'll know where I am if in trouble. But right then and there, for more than an hour, the driver was amusing himself at my expense, moving at a pace, then slowing, then stopping again. And it was like that all the way up that lane.

 

There was no ignoring him or getting away from him, too narrow to turn around. You don't have to be on a wide open motorway for games to happen. Just someone trying to get from A to B minding their own business.

 

What do you do in that situation ... remembering you're a female and want to stay safe? :confused1:

 

 

ive always told the mrs if anything like this happens just keep your hand on the horn untill he moves and keep it there till hes out of sight, best case scenario someone hears and comes to have a look he gets embarresed and drives off, worst he gets out and if he does dont take your hand off the horn reverse the car to a safe distance take his number plate a fone the police,

 

also whenever you stop behind a car the general rule is if you can see their rear tyres you will have enough room to get around them if they dont move

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