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20 years old. 100000 miles. A fortune to maintain.

I think thats generally why zeds are getting so cheap.

 

I think the biggest problem we have is, because they are so cheap they are being bought by people who cant maintain them properly.

 

After a year or so they are either chavved up or blown up.

Z's seem fine for high mileage, but the stigma of high mileage is there regardless. The rear lights is the main thing that put me off, then the fact that it's Red.

Not seen that one before, not that far from me actually....

 

Awful rear lights, some random silver trim hanging of. No interior or underbonnet shots. Vague description.... I had to look hard to find that it was a manual.

 

Its also a UK model (well its got uk bumpers). An assumption made of UK models is that they tend to be more rotten. In some cases this is true but not always.

 

Lastly, its so cheap people do think whats wrong with it? Must be goosed..... But a TT manual, for £1500 sounds great!

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yeah 100k is a bit high, not so bad if you've put those miles there yourself i suppose.

i think the other thing that puts people off, is that stupid sales statement "first to view will buy" like you don't have a choice in the matter, i find that statement rather rude and avoid cars where the owner uses it.

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i think the other thing that puts people off, is that stupid sales statement "first to view will buy" like you don't have a choice in the matter, i find that statement rather rude and avoid cars where the owner uses it.

 

haha, this is a phrase that i also cannot bloody stand, first to view will buy!!! so nobodys viewed it then???? IT'S STILL FOR SALE!!!!!

yeah 100k is a bit high, not so bad if you've put those miles there yourself i suppose.

 

Thing is, 100k in 20 years is nothing. 5k a year is nothing at all. I do that in my zed and its a weekend car that even then I dont drive far!

 

All these cars with 60k on import (funny that they've all got 60 on... not to much not to little ;) ) are more than likely clocked to that. I'm not saying all are but I would wager alot have had some of the years taken of.

 

It must always be said to buy cars on condition rather than milage. Proven time and time again, my M3 had 100k on it and it was imacculate well looked after and in fine fettle. Did a track day with some other chaps of a BMW owners club, M3 there with "60k" on it, ran like a bag of shit hadnt been maintained etc.

A friend of mine was obsessed with find a 330d with less than 100k on it until we looked at a 90'k er - what a bag of crap. So we went to look at one with 125k on and its 10x the car.

 

Long story short, milage to be taken always with a pinch of salt ESPECIALLY on imports, buy on condition not milage!

Thing is, 100k in 20 years is nothing. 5k a year is nothing at all. I do that in my zed and its a weekend car that even then I dont drive far!

 

All these cars with 60k on import (funny that they've all got 60 on... not to much not to little ;) ) are more than likely clocked to that. I'm not saying all are but I would wager alot have had some of the years taken of.

 

It must always be said to buy cars on condition rather than milage. Proven time and time again, my M3 had 100k on it and it was imacculate well looked after and in fine fettle. Did a track day with some other chaps of a BMW owners club, M3 there with "60k" on it, ran like a bag of shit hadnt been maintained etc.

A friend of mine was obsessed with find a 330d with less than 100k on it until we looked at a 90'k er - what a bag of crap. So we went to look at one with 125k on and its 10x the car.

 

Long story short, milage to be taken always with a pinch of salt ESPECIALLY on imports, buy on condition not milage!

 

i love it when someone advertises that the car has only 68k on the clock, then you open the bonnet and clock the silver sticker from when the cambelt was changed in japan and it says "changed at 86k" lol

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my mr2 (that i just swapped for the zed) had a genuine 73k on the clock, i bought it with 60k on the clock, had every MOT since it was imported, had the import document to verify mileage, i was only the second UK owner as well, i got the zed with 2 mots lol :( 105k on the clock, apparently in km's but who knows :(

I agree, 100,000 miles should be easily achievable in a Zed. Unfortunately many of them have been run on small-zero budgets. Or owned by people who are just dumb. I think anyone who buys a zed and doesn't expect to have to do an engine rebuild at some point in the future, is a very optimistic person indeed.

 

100,000 on an N/A is another matter altogether though..

I totally agree that 100k is nothing for a zed. However...

 

If i were strolling through the classifieds looking for one to buy, anything with that mileage would be scored off my list.

my mr2 (that i just swapped for the zed) had a genuine 73k on the clock, i bought it with 60k on the clock, had every MOT since it was imported, had the import document to verify mileage, i was only the second UK owner as well, i got the zed with 2 mots lol :( 105k on the clock, apparently in km's but who knows :(

 

So it was imported with 60k? Amazing... ;) those nips or albanians or whoevers running the boat over have quite a while to get the old black and decker out and pop the instrument cluster... Likewise the companies who UK'ise them once they get here, well theyve already got the clocks out havnt they ;)

 

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1541540&postcount=6

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no no no, it was imported in 98 with 28k on it (car is a 93) i had every mot from 28k up until the most recent one with 73k, i bought the car with 60k on it, but i had the import doc and all the previous mot's right back to 28k :D

hahaha fair enough will let you of on that one. Im sure some are genuine, but there are just some and you think 57,000, really? 57,000 whats exactly, trips to the moon?!

 

I agree though that alot of zeds are not looked after, but if they are will do very imperssive milages. Look at gios cars, well his first two were getting quite leggy. Was his silver TT on 145k or something stupid?

 

Turb0z's zed has done 120k or something daft on its ORIGINAL turbos! But he's had that car donkeys years.

I can remember an article quite a few years ago where I believe it was Castrol and BMW, who teamed up to conduct a 1 million mile 'simulated average driving conditions' test on a brand new BMW.

 

Having completed the million mile test they stripped the engine down to assess piston wear etc and it was reported as minimal.

 

I would have thought that if a VG30DETT or similar zed engine were maintained from new to the highest standard then it should last well into the 200,000+ miles, but when you don't know the history of the engine then that in my opinion is when the average person generally will walk away

 

I can't say from experience that a VG would hold out beyond 200,000+ miles and I'm sure there are people on this forum who are better placed to comment. Maybe the block would be good good for it but knowing at what stage additional components such as turbos, head gaskets, manifolds etc need replacing perhaps plays a large part.

 

 

I suppose if you have £3,000 to spend on a zed and you are faced with the choice of a 70,000 mile example or a 100,000 mile example that is maybe £1000 cheaper I think a lot of people would air on the side of caution and go for the lower mileage car (though clocking is always a risk) and history will play a big part.

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yeah i often do wonder how many imports have been clocked, not so much if they are fresh imports, the japanese are big on public transport and they maintain their cars maticulously, but ones that have been here for a while, i seriously doubt the mileage of my own zed, i mean, how can people NOT keep the mot's for a car?? surely if it's been in the country 10 years or whatever, then there should be 10 years of mots!!!!

I can remember an article quite a few years ago where I believe it was Castrol and BMW, who teamed up to conduct a 1 million mile 'simulated average driving conditions' test on a brand new BMW.

 

Having completed the million mile test they stripped the engine down to assess piston wear etc and it was reported as minimal.

 

I would have thought that if a VG30DETT or similar zed engine were maintained from new to the highest standard then it should last well into the 200,000+ miles, but when you don't know the history of the engine then that in my opinion is when the average person generally will walk away

 

I can't say from experience that a VG would hold out beyond 200,000+ miles and I'm sure there are people on this forum who are better placed to comment. Maybe the block would be good good for it but knowing at what stage additional components such as turbos, head gaskets, manifolds etc need replacing perhaps plays a large part.

 

 

I suppose if you have £3,000 to spend on a zed and you are faced with the choice of a 70,000 mile example or a 100,000 mile example that is maybe £1000 cheaper I think a lot of people would air on the side of caution and go for the lower mileage car (though clocking is always a risk) and history will play a big part.

 

G178 SGO

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/green-motoring/5570566/Million-mile-BMW-review.html

 

I never knew about that car! Looks like its still about.

 

Its on ASKMID!!!

Yep that's the one mate, good find.

 

I knew it was one of the big engine oil suppliers.

 

I stand corrected it was Mobil not Castrol, a hell of an advert for their product to be fair.

 

imagine if modern state of the art oils were used!

 

1 million miles.....how many sets of tyres is that?

Nothing wrong with a zed with 100k on the clock, my UK is now on 132k, engine is perfect in everyway. if they have been maintained and serviced regularly then mileage shouldnt be an issue. Just wish rear arches and sills fell into the same area. But apart from that a zed is a zed and should be looked after to live a happy long life.

I think there's a few guys on the US forum with 200k + miles (even a few with 300k +)!

That first eBay zed as said is a UK spec so I'd put money on some rust lurking somewhere that you can't see from the outside or may already have filler in the arches. I would never get a UK zed some guys on here may have rare nice ones but if suggest they get on some ramps and do a thorough check

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