indian_zx Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 ive looked around and cant seem to find any sorta official figures on this site. what sorta things weigh what? ac? 4 wheel steer? cruise? bonnet? electrics? Quote
Daffy Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 There is a thread or page somewhere where a guy has weighed the car and all the parts he's removed/deleted seperately so you can guage where and how to lose weight. I'll go looking but might take a while lol. Quote
Daffy Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 This was the thread, a good one by Dazzler http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/index.php Post 6 is the one I was thinking of. hth Quote
indian_zx Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 This was the thread, a good one by Dazzler http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/index.php Post 6 is the one I was thinking of. hth thats the index :wink: but im sure youll find the original, thanks for looking mate. Quote
Daffy Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=134657&highlight=weight+loss Is this it??? I'm a computer dumbass!! Quote
leo-r32gts Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I often wondered if the 1560kgs that is often stated in magazine stats was the actual weight, or the manufacturers 'dry weight. The car could weigh 1560 but factor in a tank of fuel and a few vital fluids and it soon adds up. Ferrari are known for quoting dry weights rather than actual on the road weight. I think the TT is too heavy really, but I'm not prepared to start stripping things off in the hope of saving a hundred Kgs - I'd rather just make the missus get out and walk!! :whistling: the a/c system probably weighs about 15kgs all in including the pump. the hicas system would probably save another 20-25kgs cruise control doesn't weigh anything really, apart from a switch and a couple of circuit boards the bonnet weighs about 25kgs - but you will need this! A carbon bonnet will weigh less than 5kg (proper one) I would recommend keeping the electrics - I've heard pedalling a zed is hard work! Unless you want to remove the eletric motors from the doors and wing mirrors etc. You could also replace the rear windows with plastic ones, remove the spare tyre and carry a can of get-you-home foam. Ditch the tools cos you no longer have the spare. Only half filling the tank with petrol will save an easy 30kgs. Removing the rear interior another 30-40kgs. Chuck the fag lighter away will save you 78gms! When you're driving a bare shell around you'd probably wish you'd just left it the way it was. Best thing to do is shed 10kgs by taking the targas out and going for a blast to use up some ever-so-heavy petrol! Quote
Yowser Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) Stock kerb weights are : TT Stock Kerb Weights (Manual) Slicktop - 1510 kg SWB - 1540 kg LWB - 1590 kg NA Stock Kerb Weights (Manual) Slicktop - 1430kg SWB - 1460 kg LWB - 1510 kg Auto is approx 15kg heavier than Manual Weight will differ for UK/Jspec (oil coolers..etc) and depending on spec (elec seats..etc) I have stripped down my slicktop to 1350kg, while retaining Interior and insulation. Thats a good 250kg lighter than the average Zed (or the same as 3 Big blokes) I have weighed everything I have removed/replaced. Rounded up to nearest kg. Front Aircon removed (Pump, Bracket, Radiator, Condenser, pipes, Fan) – 15kg EGR removed – 2kg AIV removed – 3kg Carbon Canister removed – 3kg Lightweight Crank pulley fitted – 4 kg Cruise control removed -1kg Hicas solenoid and piping Removed – 3kg NA Pas Pump and Bracket – 3kg Battery moved to boot – 16kg Lightweight flywheel – 7kg SS Turbo elbows and down pipes – 11kg Fog lights removed – 2kg 70kg loss Centre Lightweight seats fitted – 23kg Lightweight Prop shaft – 7kg 30kg loss Rear Spare wheel removed – 15kg Nissan Tools removed – 2 kg Tailgate weight removed – 2kg Spoiler removed – 7 kg Rear Wiper & Motor removed – 2kg Cargo blind removed – 2kg NA Rear subframe & Diff – 35kg Lightweight Battery fitted in boot + 6kg Rear speakers – 2kg 60kg loss 160kg total loss Wheels, Suspension Components and brakes not weighed yet. An important considering with weigth reduction is to maintain or improve on the stock weight distribution. the bonnet weighs about 25kgs - but you will need this! A carbon bonnet will weigh less than 5kg (proper one) Stock bonnet is aluminium and very light - lighter than CF bonnets. Edited May 18, 2011 by Yowser Quote
zed-racer Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) I have stripped down my slicktop to 1350kg, while retaining the Interior. Thats a good 250kg lighter than the average Zed (or the same as 3 Big blokes) Where am I going wrong, mine now weighs 1422KG and I've nothing left to remove! It's noisy, uncomfortable and has no creature comforts! Edited May 18, 2011 by zed-racer Quote
Yowser Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Where am I going wrong, mine now weighs 1423KG and I've nothing left to remove! It's noisy, uncomfortable and has no creature comforts! Your stretched version started with a 80kg disadvantage :tongue: Quote
zed-racer Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Your stretched version started with a 80kg disadvantage :tongue: I don't stand a chance.......rubbish!:mad2: Quote
Yowser Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) I don't stand a chance.......rubbish!:mad2: Have you considered different wheels ? They are momo one piece cast wheels ? - Weight saving to be had there Are you runnng TT Rear end (Subframe, diff, hicas..etc?) ? The cage prob added a further 25-30 'ish kg (its advtanges overshadow its weight though) There are Carbon fibre and Glassfibre replacements available for the Doors, Targas and Tailgate. The UAS 300zx LWB Race car is in the low 1200's if you want some ideas, here's its details : http://www.uniqueautosports.com/motor_sports.htm Edited May 18, 2011 by Yowser Quote
Daffy Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Does this mean i'll lose 80kg when i convert from auto to manual? Lightweight flywheel too and possibly aluminium prop :tt1: Quote
Yowser Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Does this mean i'll lose 80kg when i convert from auto to manual? Lightweight flywheel too and possibly aluminium prop :tt1: About 15kg difference between auto and manual Lw prop and flywheel will shed a further 12-14kg depending on type Quote
zed-racer Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Have you considered different wheels ? They are momo one piece cast wheels ? - Weight saving to be had there Are you runnng TT Rear end (Subframe, diff, hicas..etc?) ? The cage prob added a further 25-30 'ish kg (its advtanges overshadow its weight though) There are Carbon fibre and Glassfibre replacements available for the Doors, Targas and Tailgate. The UAS 300zx LWB Race car is in the low 1200's if you want some ideas, here's its details : http://www.uniqueautosports.com/motor_sports.htm Ok, so I'm far from done. I'll just re-mortgage the house and I'll be sorted! But in the interest of staying married, I'll stick to taking bits off the car for now! Quote
leo-r32gts Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Stock kerb weights are : TT Stock Kerb Weights (Manual) Slicktop - 1510 kg SWB - 1540 kg LWB - 1590 kg Stock bonnet is aluminium and very light - lighter than CF bonnets. Not so my friend! Don't know if they changed the material for steel in the mid nineties. But given all the tight-arse measures taken to save money (no boost gauge FFS) on the mid nineties model it wouldn't surprise me. My bonnet is steel - not aluminium - I can also tell you it is very heavy! put your fingers on the slam panel and I'll drop it from 20cm if you don't believe me! It is at least 20 kilos, more like 25.. Also, a carbon fibre bonnet IS lighter than aluminium - if they are the same design. If this is not the case, then I will gladly empty all my pockets of fluff and give that to you! Quote
bobgenie Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 My slicktop weighs in at 1370 kg and that's not dry. It's also not as a result of making a huge effort to remove weight either. But my seats and wheels alone must save 50 or 60 kg. It is bloody noisy though lol. Quote
Yowser Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Not so my friend! Don't know if they changed the material for steel in the mid nineties. But given all the tight-arse measures taken to save money (no boost gauge FFS) on the mid nineties model it wouldn't surprise me. My bonnet is steel - not aluminium - I can also tell you it is very heavy! put your fingers on the slam panel and I'll drop it from 20cm if you don't believe me! It is at least 20 kilos, more like 25.. Also, a carbon fibre bonnet IS lighter than aluminium - if they are the same design. If this is not the case, then I will gladly empty all my pockets of fluff and give that to you! Steel bonnet may be a later model thing, but I think you probably have an aftermarket pattern part bonnet. You literally need 2 people to remove the stock Aluminium bonnet just to prevent it blowing away :rofl:, its very very light. All of the aftermarket CF bonnets I have felt on a Z (admittadly only 2) are heavier than the stock Aluminim bonnet, and many others have experienced the same. They tend to have to be made thicker for more rididity- and typically fibreglass frame with a Carbon fibre top made up as a resin wet layup. I think the only one available that may be full CF is the Border hood, but its still not really any lighter. Edited May 19, 2011 by Yowser Quote
vodkashots Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I can remove a stock bonnet on my own and lift it from one side of the car and clear the vehicle with out straining or worrying about dropping it, it's very light Quote
Yowser Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I cant find the stock bonnet weight, but less than 5kg Quote
leo-r32gts Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Excellent, So this probably means my car has been front-ended at some point! How pleased I am! Anyone else with a '95 spec car felt the weight of their bonnet recently? Or am I the unlucky soul who has the only steel bonnet? Anyone got an early series aluminium bonnet lying around?? Quote
Baz Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Excellent, So this probably means my car has been front-ended at some point! How pleased I am! Anyone else with a '95 spec car felt the weight of their bonnet recently? Or am I the unlucky soul who has the only steel bonnet? Anyone got an early series aluminium bonnet lying around?? I've got a spare bonnet kicking around. Quote
leo-r32gts Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I've got a spare bonnet kicking around. You sure its Alu though? Maybe its blown away!! :lol: Quote
GIBSTER-TT Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Ive got 2 bonnets laying around both are Ali ill try and weigh asap Quote
Baz Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 You sure its Alu though? Maybe its blown away!! :lol: Its definately aluminium, it wasn't until your post earlier that I realised you can get a cast iron version! :lol: Quote
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