OMFG I had a tenant have a domestic two months back, Police smashed the door in. I had to pay £650 to put a new door in as they were both on the dole (both worked when they initially rented the place). Then she threw him out and then decided to move back in with her parents as she was worried about him coming back to the house.

 

This was in the first week of March, the dole said they will not pay rent as no one was living there. They the tell her I have to evict her before they will re consider housing her. Can you believe that?

 

She told me that she needed somewhere to keep her furniture so although she was not living there I would have to put up with it issue notice then pay to evict her before I could have the house back. All this time no rent and associated legal costs now.

 

WTF has the country reached a point now where no one has any self respect! I am £700pm of unpaid furniture storage cos someone at dole office thinks its my fault for expecting rent.

 

She just text me to say she is hoping for a new place in the next few months, so was enquiring how much longer it will legally take to evict her as she was worried about putting her stuff somewhere.

 

OMFG talk about Jeremy Kyle generation.

Thats a proper ****s trick :(

id throw all her shit out to be honest, if the council doesn't recognise her as a tenant for rent, and she no longer resides there. then surely if she doesn't collect her crap, you have a legal right to throw it out. after all she isn't living there. im pretty sure that would also stand up in a court of law.

 

Sorry matey, but if the council wont recognise that fact and wont pay rent, how can you evict someone who doesn't live there, after all your not a storage facility.

Martin break into the place, and throw all the stuff out into the street, then call the police and say whilst you were driving past, you witnessed a gypo looking bloke emty his old white transit on the street, you didnt see that it had any licence plate. Its then upto the council to remove the rubbish as its fly tipping. Ring the tennant an say that the house has been ransacked and all her stuff has been nicked. Police will send soco, and dust for prints, but will only show your prints, plus tennants. with any luck she will be wanted on warrant.

This solves all the problems in one hit, you clear the house, some gypo gets hassled, council men have more work, plus the tennat is not there and has no reason to go there.

Dont do with any witnesses, or in view of any cctv.

Sell her possesions to re-coup lost rent.

Let her know she has 7 days to collect or it yours...

TBH, after sitting here thinking about this, I'm sure there is some bS going on with her story, id get in touch with the council about it and ask if they recognise her as a tenant at your address. as if they do then they are entitled to pay her rent if she goes in and fills the form out.

 

If they don't, then you cant evict her for her to get re homed by the council as they don't recognise your house as her abode, so would make absolutely no difference if you evicted her or not. now as you say she is already re homed somewhere else, and is not paying rent. then she has already willingly given up her residence there and has no rights, and thus you have a right to remove her property from your house. (even a court will see this) write her a letter stating

 

As she no longer resides at the address, she has 7 days to remove her belongings from the property and return the keys. or you will remove her items and dispose of them and get the locks changed and bill her for it.

 

As far as i can see, you DONT have to evict her as shes already left on her own accord. this is how the council see if it if you move out of a council house and leave your stuff there.

Martin, at my work, which is a very large housing assoc. when someone has walked away for non payment, we apply to the courts for a notice to quit order. Once issued it gives the person 7 days from date of issue and to remove all said items from the house, in the presence of the landlord (us) after this date all items are classed as rubbish, and we throw all of it away (but we do keep playstation 3's and fishing rods, and bretling watches)

Martin, at my work, which is a very large housing assoc. when someone has walked away for non payment, we apply to the courts for a notice to quit order. Once issued it gives the person 7 days from date of issue and to remove all said items from the house, in the presence of the landlord (us) after this date all items are classed as rubbish, and we throw all of it away (but we do keep playstation 3's and fishing rods, and bretling watches)

 

can i stake a claim on one of them PS3's lol

It is basically she says she has moved home as she is worried about her ex becoming violent. As the dole will not cover storage they have advised her the fastest way to get a new place is get mugsy here to evict her. My two month jobbie runs out on May 6th then on the 7th my lawyer is initiating a rapid posession order.

 

No woner why no fecker will rent to DSS!. I never did but he lost his job and he never bothered getting another one. Then with all the extra leisure time they sprouted kids to increase their state take to get into retirement in their mid 20s. I was happy ish as they looked after the place and were paying rent on time, even if I did not agree with his choice of career path.

 

I really kept the place uptogether as well, re painted all the wear and tear stuff they did, put a new roof on. Turfed the garden for the kids, blah blah blah...

 

So dole says screw me over and after all this they do, I really hate having property rented out. it is nothing but heart ache and a financial pain. I am now of the opinion that as a landlord you should treat everyone like shite, never repair anything and as soon as they loose their jobs give them notice. And yes it was fully managed through an agent, im not a free self storage facility for lazy bums. i would think twice before i gave my best mate two grand so why do people expect me to give it to them as it suits their needs.

 

All the laws are stacked up against you as a landlord it sucks.

It is basically she says she has moved home as she is worried about her ex becoming violent. As the dole will not cover storage they have advised her the fastest way to get a new place is get mugsy here to evict her. My two month jobbie runs out on May 6th then on the 7th my lawyer is initiating a rapid posession order.

 

No woner why no fecker will rent to DSS!. I never did but he lost his job and he never bothered getting another one. Then with all the extra leisure time they sprouted kids to increase their state take to get into retirement in their mid 20s. I was happy ish as they looked after the place and were paying rent on time, even if I did not agree with his choice of career path.

 

I really kept the place uptogether as well, re painted all the wear and tear stuff they did, put a new roof on. Turfed the garden for the kids, blah blah blah...

 

So dole says screw me over and after all this they do, I really hate having property rented out. it is nothing but heart ache and a financial pain. I am now of the opinion that as a landlord you should treat everyone like shite, never repair anything and as soon as they loose their jobs give them notice. And yes it was fully managed through an agent, im not a free self storage facility for lazy bums. i would think twice before i gave my best mate two grand so why do people expect me to give it to them as it suits their needs.

 

All the laws are stacked up against you as a landlord it sucks.

 

Max, does she live in the house the stuff is in or not? that is the main question.

I'm pretty sure you do have a leg to stand on here, as a landlord you have the right to do whatever you feel necessary to protect your property. By them moving out and declaring so, in such a way that the council will no longer pay the rent, the house is considered abandoned in the eyes of the law. You can lawfully change the locks to protect your property, because if they're now separated and have moved out of the house, you consider the house to be at risk from squatters and from friends of the couple who may seek to take advantage.

 

I strongly suggest changing the locks, then letting the woman know that if she has not removed her possessions in 7 days, you will be auctioning them off in lieu of rent. Make sure she knows that she still owes you the rent and you WILL be pursuing her for it through the court. At the end of the day, all though you will be out of pocket in the short term, as the tenant she has a legal responsibility to pay rent while ever she holds the tenancy.

throw the shit out change the locks, its your house

absolutely

 

Gutt it all of her stuff and change the locks .....keep anything of any value as a bond in lieu of payment

 

i hate this skip rat generation !!

your not having much luck with this letting buisness are you mate? or is this teh same tennet that you had grief with a few months back?

FFS! Bloody apalling! So many people act as if nothing is their problem, and refuse to take responsibility for their actions. Do what the others have suggested, give her notice to remove her stuff within 7 days, auction off what she doesn't remove after then and advise her she is still liable for all the outstanding rent. :cursing:

I cant their is a legal process to follow, they have a tennancy even if they are not paying rent or living there. I can get into a whole heap of trouble if I go in there and change the locks. I have initiated all the eviction stuff last thing I can do it throw a spanner in the works by accessing the property unlawfully or changing the locks.

 

Just one royal pain in the backside!

I cant their is a legal process to follow, they have a tennancy even if they are not paying rent or living there. I can get into a whole heap of trouble if I go in there and change the locks. I have initiated all the eviction stuff last thing I can do it throw a spanner in the works by accessing the property unlawfully or changing the locks.

 

Just one royal pain in the backside!

 

you haven't put a clause in the tenancy stating that it must be their Permanent residence? they are not paying rent and are not in the premises, I'm pretty sure you have the right to go and change the locks mate depending how long its been since they last resided at the address.

 

If it was me, i would of worried about the consequences after to be perfectly honest, they have given up any rights they may of had with a tenancy by moving out. they have already stated they are not living there. that should terminate the tenancy automatically on there part, other wise there will be people up and down the country who still live in properties they have moved out of with out letting the landlords know.

Think about this too, if she can't afford to pay the storage fees for her crap and can't afford to pay the rent, how can she afford a lawyer to sue you, for changing the locks and throwing her stuff out? The police won't do jack! It's a civil matter, not a criminal matter, no lawyer on the planet will help someone on the dole, try to sue a landlord for taking his property back after not being paid rent, especially when she's vacated the property of her own volition. Unfortunately, your solicitor probably has a vested interest in you taking the full legal path, he gets paid to draft the documents, go to court, etc.

 

The only person who could sue you for doing it, is her, and she won't do it, because she can't do it. End of story.

 

Like I said, as a landlord you DO by law, have the right to take whatever steps necessary to keep the property safe, if you have a key and she has voluntary ceased to reside there. So long as you have a key, as most landlords do, then you are not breaking, simply entering, and as the property is at risk, you have the legal right to do so. What are you gunna do if the fella decides to move back in in the mean time and take up roots, she can't get her stuff out and you have to start the whole eviction process again, but on him, not her.

Some good points raised here, but she will be able to sue, she will get legal

aid to do it.

Did she give you notice to quit?

Did she/they sign a new contract when they went onto benefits, or

are they still tied into the existing one of x amount of £'s per month?

 

I work for a housing assocition and it really is a shitty situation, we have

people doing moonlight flits oweing £k's in rent, and we have to give

them 28 days to return to collect their belongings!

It beggars belief what these people can get away with, even if we evict

them, they then come back to us as a nom from the council, still

oweing £k's to us, and we are legally obliged to house them.... again!