So our NI contributions will be going to private firms after the Health Bill is 'pushed' through. I wonder how long it'll be before that sky-rockets then?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/2011/01/28/tories-to-offer-private-health-care-firms-500m-bung-for-nhs-work-115875-22880671/

So our NI contributions will be going to private firms after the Health Bill is 'pushed' through. I wonder how long it'll be before that sky-rockets then?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/2011/01/28/tories-to-offer-private-health-care-firms-500m-bung-for-nhs-work-115875-22880671/

 

I always said that we would not have an NHS when they started changing the hospitals and Ambulance services to trusts. We will eventually go exactly the same as the USA, the rich can get while everyone else suffers, it's a crime......:wheelchair:

Tory, eh ??

 

 

Alan....

It's in the Mirror so it must be true.......:whistling:

Say goodbye to your youth service as well guys - 20 out of 27 youth and community centres in Oxfordshire alone to be cut.... 200 full time posts mine included (equating to about 300 staff) and the 7 centres left will be "hubs" housing admin, and office staff with maybe 1 night of youth provision a week. All to save 150mill over 3 years..... how much were those Trident subs again? or those Nimrods which have been paid for, and now are going to cost millions to de-commision, only to leave us buying the same technology from Boeing?

 

Criminal is the word!

As someone who was a manager in the HNS previously, this has been going on for some time now - but the scale and speed of the proposed changes is alarming and a number of the consultants I work with are campaigning within the BMA to try to stall the bill going through because they really do believe this is the beginning of the end of the NHS. It is very worrying

welcome to the real world everybody glad you can join us, happy days!

The NHS are useless anyway on the whole, MRSA anyone?

Does this mean I have the option to pay it? I've worked since before 16 and never been to the hospital (other than to be born) and made it to 32 without visiting it..

 

Took my daughter once I guess to have a bead removed from her nose when she was really young, (kids do weird things), so guess I paid for that...

 

Though the second I'm not paying you know I'll drive sideways into a wall....you just know it.

It needs to change, it is a badly run institution stuck in the dark ages. We (tax payers) having been chucking money at this for years and still the service is poor and we continue to kill innocent people because we cannot even keep it clean??

Bring it on I say.

I'm certainly no expert, the only experience I had with hospitals was when my mother was in and out of them due to her chest disease (COPD) - there are three main hospitals here in Leicester, one of which my mum used to hate, one she didn't really like, and one she loved being in (worthy mention: Glenfield) which is the one she passed away in. It's the usual story - the ground-level staff like the nurses and the doctors were all amazing, its just the hundreds of managers that balls everything up and set targets that have no use other than to give themselves something to do. bring back Matrons I say!! oh and anyone who gets violent with hospital staff, give them a sticky plaster and throw them out into the cold :slap:

I'm certainly no expert, the only experience I had with hospitals was when my mother was in and out of them due to her chest disease (COPD) - there are three main hospitals here in Leicester, one of which my mum used to hate, one she didn't really like, and one she loved being in (worthy mention: Glenfield) which is the one she passed away in. It's the usual story - the ground-level staff like the nurses and the doctors were all amazing, its just the hundreds of managers that balls everything up and set targets that have no use other than to give themselves something to do. bring back Matrons I say!! oh and anyone who gets violent with hospital staff, give them a sticky plaster and throw them out into the cold :slap:

 

Here here Dave!!

 

The NHS is generally very good and, as a national institution, it must be kept alive. However it also has to change in order to maintain its primary goal - the treatment of patients.

 

If those changes involve private investment in some areas; or the contracting out of other areas then, if it works in the best interests of the patients, it's a good thing.

 

Also to reduce the burden on the NHS I believe that those who can actually AND easily afford private health insurance should be encouraged to do so; by reinstating tax relief on the premiums perhaps? That way, if someone with PHI is treated by the NHS, then the NHS can reclaim the cost from the insurer as opposed to government.

 

Richard:cool2:

I used to work in IT for the NHS and all the money went to the wrong areas. There are more managers than workers and they all get a nice handsome pay packet. I left on principle and now work at a Uni. I remember a time when lots of money became available for IT upgrades and it was ALL spent on managers' and directors' PCs and their network infrastructure. Meanwhile, ward clerks were having to make do with 386 computers running Windows 3.11 in 2004!