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Right, lets say you will be shocked with this one!!

 

The worst get even worse. Things got messy!!!

 

So couple of weeks we went down to pick my car and parts up.

 

Took about 3 hours to get there then a further about 3 hours to load the van up of parts. We totally filled a big Transit van full of my parts.

 

All was good up until this point.

 

Through out the duration they kept making comments saying i was a fool and left the car for them to finish trying to make me feel bad. They had it for over a year and a half and the engine was out the car and still totally in bits. Sod all had been done.

 

Anyway...

 

So the car was loaded on to a trailer, most the parts were in the van, the garage said here are your parts and watched as we loaded which is fair enough. Keeping in mind they had my car for a long time and in that period i had a few bits n bobs sent to them in that time. Luckily for me a was prepared with a list of parts they had which i had really scratched my head to put together as i had so many parts. They gave me the essential parts then i had to ask for the other about quarter of the parts one by a time, "where is this" " where is that" it was if they were trying to catch me out and keep anything they could.

 

They wouldnt give me back my heads which i supplied. They had been machined and ported etc. They also didnt give me my valve guides back or the stem seals. They also promised i could have the acl race bearings they supplied but on the day decided i couldnt so didnt get them either, another lie guys.

 

That was bad enough until things took a turn for the worse.

 

They wanted me to sign something saying i had collected all parts bla bla bla and other rubbish in there also. This was a total lie as we didnt collect all parts, as they refused to some back so as anyone would we refused to sign it. They didn't like this and that is when things got nasty.

 

I think the words were "you know what you need to do guys" Our van then got blocked in, all the mechanics come outside and stood around crossed arms and intimidated us. Voices raised etc. etc. Threats were made etc. etc.

 

They realised we were not going to budge, so they re-worded this letter and was just as bad. Once again we refused to sign.

 

This went on for hours, and throughout most this time we were not allowed in the workshop standing out side freezing our ass off!!! Also with mechanics standing around intimidating us.

 

Then they said that we had unload our van again or they would do it for us assuming force would of been used as they had shown their dark side.

 

I said ok then, think we need to call the police. They were like are you sure?? i said well yeah look what is going on!!!

 

He then stomped off for about a hour and hide and sulked!!

 

While he was gone i told the mechanics a few home truths, they had no idea of all the facts that everything was supplied by me!! Payment was never a issue and that this has gone on for over a year and a half.

 

Couple of the guys were shocked and turned and was on our side and said the management this isnt on and helped us work on a solution, in the end they helped to draft up a document which we were happy with, it stated we collected most of parts and some we were not getting back as it was truthful. Management said well it be on your head to the mechanics who sided with us as the owner would not be happy.

 

In other words they wanted to pretend it never happened, pretend they never even had my car.

 

I was also told i had to lie and not tell anyone my car had ever been there and if i did they hinted towards that there would be consequences.

 

They had two sets of my heads, the ones i supplied on another used engine and the old ones off the old engine. They said i could use the old old ones as they were not giving back my other ones. When i got home i took a look over my heads and they look like to me that they have been purposely damaged, i have pics and will prove this. It looks like someone has took a hammer and chisel to every one of the spark holes well think its the spark holes. and it is every one on both heads, this could never happen surely unless done on purpose, they are all cracked and smashed.

 

What else, there is lots more, briefly someone has been offered for sale by them some of my parts. They were trying to sell my parts!!! and one of those parts is one they would not return!!

 

Got my car home took one look at it and thought no way can i see this through now. They left it in a complete mess!!! bits every where!! boxes upon boxes of parts, complete nght mare for anyone to take on.

 

That is why most my parts are now for sale, I do love the Zed but i have lost that spark. they have ruined it for me.

 

They also tried turning it on me and started blaming the lack of work down to payment. Funny that the original bill was about £6,000 and crept up to nearly £14,000 where i said no way!! cant pay that and they said ok £10,000 for full sponsor of the car which i didnt want as it would look rubbish covered in their stickers and it would no longer be a sleeper which i want. Also going back to payment, i gave them a deposit they asked for, they done sod all work for months then asked for more money so i gave them more than they asked as a incentive to work on my car which they still done nothing to. Does this sound like a non payer? all this time i had the money sitting in my account waiting to pay them. They pretty much said in so many words if i did tell anyone about what happened that would be their angle which believe me is a complete lie!!! I am a very honest and genuine guy who they totally took advantage of and messed about big time!!!

 

Really is such a shame as my car would of been mega cool.

 

I will start another thread with pics of the heads for you to come to your own conclusion, i would also like to post up some of their invoices and how much they wanted to charge for sill jobs. 2 hours to bleed the breaks??? ok then...

 

Also another thread for my next steps. engine swap or... get another car. Either option involves selling most the parts which are in the for sale thread, most are brand spanking new. Get another car route will mean selling the entire lot.

 

One Sad Zed Owner :(

 

Craig i feel for you buddy but your not alone...

 

I have lost thousands of pounds because of this garage, expenses goes on forever and don't dare even add up. At a massive loss.

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Also reflecting on what Jeff said.

 

I live for the Jap car scene, it is my life pretty much.

 

The garage and car has had a huge impact on me and my family as my family are affected by my mood swings and behavour.

 

They now have a car in the front of the drive which looks a complete unfinished mess.

 

Not a nice look for any drive.

 

Fully agree with that.lol. Im not married but was almost a single man and i just couldnt be bothered with stuff because i felt down about all the crap that was going on! 100% feel for you mate.

I just think it's sad to see a 300zx owner give up cos of a garage who obviously don't know their arse from their elbow. But I totally understand if you do :(

 

Its the fact the garages screws you over and takes all your money and to get it fixed up again you then need to trust another garage who willa sk for more money.....

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Yeah i know.

 

Such a hard one to make.

 

The nsx will be a totally different car, the 300 can be a road legal track car i want as where the nsx will never be. But there again if i ever grow up i might not want that track car look and feel.

 

There is allot you can buy for nsx if you look around but parts are harder to get hold of and not so availible.

and I wish you luck finding someone to work on NSX's. My mate had one and had a nightmare with servicing :(

Jaffa matey, i totally feel for you..... Jeff's words are very true!!! There are many garages/300 mech's that claim they know it all, but clearly they dont!!

I hope you see an end to this bad time you are having buddy. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, and believe me, "What goes around, comes around!!" Your day will come!!

 

Al.

Jaf,

Havent commented as I am pretty sure you will have heard it all before.

I actually feel down and angry reading through your posts connected with this carry on. !:(

 

I honestly dont know who you were dealing with, and can also understand why you havent went the name`n`shame route, full respect for your cool head. I would probably have blown a gasket myself by now.

Have a wee time out mate, clear your thoughts and decide then.

Whatever you decide to go with, I am sure it will be unique !;)

 

As a side thought, while everybody is stuffing a Yank V8 in a Zed, why not stuff a Jap in a Yank ?? Think of the Mustang in one of the F&F films ?

 

OK, I have been consuming alcohol, I will get my coat !;)

 

Good luck mate,

 

Alan......

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Thanks for all your comments and thoughts.

 

Yeah really is a heart ache I have been debating for a while do i or don't i say who it is.

 

I have been factual and everything is how it is.

 

My main concern is if i don't say who it is then someone may take their car their and have the same troubles and i would feel terrible for not warning of my experiance with them.

 

I was pulling a few parts about within my car the other day and found a plaque they had fitted in my car with their name on. They didn't even manage to do that right as it had fallen out.

 

I was tempted to take a pic of the plaque and post it up.

 

They make me sick, all the lies and all the false promises. I had already had a rough ride with one big failure after 1000 road mile built engine. This was my third attempt, they knew this and really put down the previous work and said how bad it was for a garage to do that to a customer and they do 100x worse. at least the previous garage was able to finish it.

 

I think they need a reality check, I think they are no better mechanically than a average garage on the high street they have just blagged it and now is catching up with them. After my experiance there are people who have had the same experiance with them but just have not been vocal. They threatened me so no doubt they also got threats.

Shall we have a zed meet at that garage one day.

 

We already have done before, don't think we'll have a return visit somehow!!!

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Paul we can still go maybe in fancy dress, how about swat gear with real ammo :P

Well actually we should all know who the garage is but still people are taking their motors there. I have never personally dealt with them however I bought a modified zed from a forum member and I picked the car up from the said garage. On the face of it the mechanics were Ok with a few obvious issues however within a very short space of time it became quite clear the workmanship was shoddy at best. Ultimately I took the car to Dan at Advanced Motorsports (not cheap but first class quality control) and probably spent about £7K just putting crappy workmanship right. At the end of the day I haven't complained about it. Let's face it I'm a big boy now and no-one forced me to buy the motor so I've just got on with it.

 

I do feel for you though Jaffa because it's apparent you have not gone cheap and have spent a lot of money on quality parts. If you had taken this lot to AME or one of the well known and respected zed mechanics you would now be smiling big time!! It's a crying shame that you're selling your zed parts too.

 

As a matter of interest I note that you are considering buying a NSX. For what it's worth I have driven modified motors of one kind or another since the late seventies (yes I am an old geezer). They are ALL a pain in the butt and will always cost an arm and a leg. However, with the parts you have and with a good workshop I reckon you could have ended up with something quite sensational.

just burn the place to the ground.wont fix your car but will give you a great deal of satisfaction f**king t*ssers.things like this really wind me up,you work your butt off and try to treat yourself to a few luxurys.just for some ar*e hole who cant pay his rent to take it all away NAME AND SHAME so everyone knows who they are.they cant do any more wrong to you than they have already

THOR hes a jolly good fellow

 

the word ZTECH also comes to mind

Thor have costed me far too much to spend yet even more money on my car. They have left me loads out of pocket.

 

The only route for me is the engine swap if i was to stick with the 300.

 

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