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doing my head in now,

 

bled it from the slave, and from the one by the drivers headlight.

 

there is no air coming out, just oil,

 

its not activating the clutch fork enough tho?

 

got full pedal, but no resistance, just goes to the floor easy as hell, then comes back up.

 

tips? suggestions?

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no,

 

what is that? can you elabarate?

 

 

i can move the shifter into every gear apart from 5th if that means anything?

When I bleed mine i couldn't get any gear even though no more air was coming out. So I put it in 1st and just rocked the car back and forth, I've done this in past on Peugeots when the clutch plate was stuck after the car had been stood for some time. Once I did that the car went into gear and has been fine.

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thanks for that, il give it a bash,

 

(car has been stood for about 5 months so maybe that)

 

anyone else any suggestions? doesnt seem to be any air coming out,

 

but the clutch pedal is very very light? too light even. just goes strait to the floor, returns all the way up, but goes n too easy than normal?

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tried rocking the car today, stil no difference.

 

i put the car in gear then started it, just to make sure it was free.

 

 

 

what next then? heard someone mention "pressure bleeding"?

 

 

dont wana buy a braided line if still got the problem?

 

 

 

was all working before the conversion. all the parts are from my old working car, (master & slave, box, clutch, pedal, shifer, clutch line etc)

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no i havent.

 

just to advise, ive converted the car from auto to manual.

 

 

the pedal is from my manual car, and workt fine, ive not adjusted it tho?

 

 

the pedal goes to the floor, and rerturns fine, just its way too light?

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anyone?

 

gonna have to book into a garage if not

Just check that the clutch fork is located correctly on the pivot ball in the bellhousing, the retaining clip should be below the ball. When bleeding are you shutting off the bleed nipple on the pedal up stroke. Another suggestion is to undo the bleed nipple, and stamp down on the clutch pedal several times.

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Just check that the clutch fork is located correctly on the pivot ball in the bellhousing, the retaining clip should be below the ball.

 

il check that later, when we are pressing the clutch in, the fork is only moving a small amount. it will move when we move it by hand, but the pedal isnt moving it enough

 

 

When bleeding are you shutting off the bleed nipple on the pedal up stroke.

 

yea we are bleeding it correct, there isnt any air coming from the 2 bleed points, just fluid.

 

maybe theres an issue with the master cylinder? adjusting or something?

 

clutch is coming all the way up, but no resistance??

Assuming all is well with clutch assy, pivot, fork etc, If you look at the point where the rod attaches to the pedal you should have a lock nut and a threaded bar, when you start you should have the bar screwed in to the pedal as far as it will go, bleed the clutch, ( need to do that to then set the pedal adjustment ) then remove any slack from the pedal by screwing the bar back out so the clutch starts moving the slave after minimal movement on the pedal, be careful not to over do it you don't want constant pressure on the clutch.

 

That's the best way I've found to do clutches.

Buy yourself an oil can.Fill it with brake fluid and back bleed the system through the slave nipple.It may take half a litre of fluid pushed through but it always works on the most trickiest of cylinders.Have used this method many times with great success.

My guess would be, that if as you say there is no resistance at all on the pedal, the seals in either the master or slave cylinder have gone (the fluid just passes by the seals as opposed to applying enough force to the fork.

 

At an educated guess, if the master is forcing the brake fluid out quite strongly from the bleed point, the slave is most likely the culprit. If the seals go in the master cylinder, you can sometimes see bubbles in the fluid reservoir when the clutch pedal is pressed.

 

HTH.

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thanks for replies,

 

ive booked it into the garage, was having a chat to them they said the Nissans are a pain in the arse to get the clutch back after the fluid has gone.

 

 

they have Vacuum bleeding & pressure bleeding kits there they use so gonna try that.

 

 

gona asume the master & slave arnt leaking, as workt fine before, and cant see any fluid dripping from either

I have a similar problem after a clutch/fly change, but thankfully it's engaging at the bottom of the pedal. No fifth though, same as you.

 

I'm guessing air in the system or pedal needs re-adjusting. let me know how you get on!

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ok mate will do, yea the 5th gear confising me 2, as cant even select it when engine off.

 

ive read on here that if the pedal didnt need adjusting before, dont do it now.

 

will report back next week after the garage have hada look.

If you are replying to my post, you won't see any leaks - the brake fluid simply goes back into the system (bit like as if the seals aren't there) rather than forcing it forwards. I've had this before and it took a while to find.

 

Good luck.

ok mate will do, yea the 5th gear confising me 2, as cant even select it when engine off.

 

ive read on here that if the pedal didnt need adjusting before, dont do it now.

 

will report back next week after the garage have hada look.

 

Sorry but why do you think you have adjustment on the pedal :wack:, it would all be preset and it would have a plain rod with no adjustment, I have never understood how so many people have a problem setting up a clutch pedal.

 

Once you remove fluid from the system you have altered the relation ship between the master and slave, its best to just set it all up again.

Sorry but why do you think you have adjustment on the pedal :wack:, it would all be preset and it would have a plain rod with no adjustment, I have never understood how so many people have a problem setting up a clutch pedal.

 

Once you remove fluid from the system you have altered the relation ship between the master and slave, its best to just set it all up again.

 

frys right my clutch pedal as fine , changed the box with a bifferent clutch and took ages to get it back but only half pedal !

 

after playing with the adjuster bar on the clutch pedal all was well:D

 

 

mind the garage isnt liein , nissan are a ******* to bleed :(

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Bled now :)

 

 

gave to garage as i coudnt sort.

 

they said was a bit if air init, and adjusted the pedal to the maximum.

 

bighting point is right at the floor they say, but car drives they say.

 

:dance:

 

 

 

hope its ok for me!, can get used to it i supose at the floor

  • 2 weeks later...

how was it in the end? did you get a decent pedal and get fifth back?

  • Author

hi mate.

 

yea ive got 5th gear back.

 

tbh the clutch feels not the best

 

 

bighting point is right on the floor, and is really hard/lots of resistance, but only the bottom half.

 

ive got used to it tho.

 

 

i think the garage just did all the work on the pedal, rarther than air in there (they did say there was air tho)

  • 2 weeks later...

right mine is fixed now that Silverbullit worked his magic.

 

Clutch bled (lots of air), pedal adjusted, and most importantly, shortshifter turned around the right way!

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