Hi Guys,

 

Just wanted to know peoples opinions on resprays. What sort of quality do you expect from a bodyshop. I realise it's never going to be as good as factory but what would you be happy with?

 

Mines in pearl white and I know imperfections show through more in a pearl and obviously can only be flattened so much but I found quite a few marks still on the car but it's still got to be polished so I didn't say anything............

 

Cheers

 

Vijay

Well Here is my piece on the subject....

My number 2 daughter has a W plate Punto(bought by Dad of course as she is a poor student) She herself had a small knock/scrape on the rear RHS door. Then my mate damaged the drivers door while removing the engine!!!(Dont ask how) He offered to have it fixed obviously at his cost. So we combined both bits of damage (all on RHS) and had a local bodyshop do the repair.

Car was duly filled and painted(its graphite grey pearlish colour)

You cannot see which panels he has done and which are still original.

 

And another tale.....

When I were a lad I had a Ford Sierra Cosworth in Moonstone.

Some scrotes stole it and it was recovered with screwdrivered door both sides and bald tyres. It was fixed under insurance by a local Ford dealer.

When I dropped the car off at the Dealer I asked to speak to the body shop manager. I told him... If I can see which panels you have painted then I wont accept it back.

He said... it will take a couple of weeks to get it done... and so it was. Impossible to see where he had painted. I needed to feel round behind each panel to tell where he had masked off.

Hello bud,

 

Problem is not the quality of paint, his spraying seems top notch. What seems to have happended is there are bits where there are either specs in the paint or there are pinholes in places where I imagine they missed with the stopper.

 

As I said, they haven't finished it yet and I just wanted opinions on what I should accept ;)

Hello bud,

 

Problem is not the quality of paint, his spraying seems top notch. What seems to have happended is there are bits where there are either specs in the paint or there are pinholes in places where I imagine they missed with the stopper.

 

As I said, they haven't finished it yet and I just wanted opinions on what I should accept ;)

 

Pinholes wont buff out Vijay. End of.

The point I am making is that good bodyshops CAN and DO match factory finish in all respects.In colour and quality of finish.

You asked what was acceptable etc.

Well I personally wouldnt accept or pay for a paint job with pin holes or shit in the laquer.

At the end of the day it all boils down to price. If someone is asking for £1000 to £1500 then you just wont get a top notch job. However at double that price you would expect virtual perfection. IMO.

my mate had a nissan neros car, its basically a scheme where nissan workers can more or less hire cars for next to nothing for a year and replace it, but it has to be in near showroom condition when you take it back otherwise they charge you to repair any faults

 

it had a few scuffs and took it to a neros approved garage (same place steve-300zx got his car painted) and got the repairs done, he took it to the dealers to hand it back and they said it was no good as he could see the repairs, now this is where it gets strange, it had orange peel paint on the car (micra cc) but that was the factory paint, the panels he had done were too good and showed the rest of the car up, after a few arguments he had to take the car back to body shop and get the whole thing polished up properly to remove the factory orange peel

 

body shops can make better jobs than factory, any dimples in paint must be either filled and panel resprayed or sanded back to metal and start again

 

p.s, i only paid £800 for my fill and spray, done by a mate (he is proffesional) and its top notch

Edited August 29, 200817 yr by stellaZ

I honestly don't know how much they've charged as I'm not picking up the tab, the original garage are paying for it and arranged for it to go into this bodyshop but I was told it was over 4K but I don't know if that's bull. All I know is there was a hell of a lot of work getting all panels right.

 

Would you accept any marks at all on the paint? How fussy would you be?

well here is my piece on the subject....

My number 2 daughter has a w plate punto(bought by dad of course as she is a poor student) she herself had a small knock/scrape on the rear rhs door. Then my mate damaged the drivers door while removing the engine!!!(dont ask how) he offered to have it fixed obviously at his cost. So we combined both bits of damage (all on rhs) and had a local bodyshop do the repair.

Car was duly filled and painted(its graphite grey pearlish colour)

you cannot see which panels he has done and which are still original.

 

And another tale.....

When i were a lad i had a ford sierra cosworth in moonstone.

Some scrotes stole it and it was recovered with screwdrivered door both sides and bald tyres. It was fixed under insurance by a local ford dealer.

When i dropped the car off at the dealer i asked to speak to the body shop manager. I told him... If i can see which panels you have painted then i wont accept it back.

He said... It will take a couple of weeks to get it done... And so it was. Impossible to see where he had painted. I needed to feel round behind each panel to tell where he had masked off.

 

and the point of your submission for the booker prize is ?;)

I honestly don't know how much they've charged as I'm not picking up the tab, the original garage are paying for it and arranged for it to go into this bodyshop but I was told it was over 4K but I don't know if that's bull. All I know is there was a hell of a lot of work getting all panels right.

 

Would you accept any marks at all on the paint? How fussy would you be?

 

absolutely mirror perfect finish, for 4k thats what i would expect, how much was your orginal estimate and what exactly did the bodyshop have to do???

well the originl bodyshop had a total of £4100 to do the job and that was a bare metal respray. They've lost out bigtime cos their sprayer was so crap and wasted so much materials.

 

This bodyshop basically had to prep every panel and build up

would still want perfect (and i mean perfect) job

so not 1 single mark? Would you have them re-do every panel that wasn't 100% prefect?

yup, till there was no doubt in my mind at all that their wasnt anything wrong with the paint, i hate being fobbed off with jargon, i want what i pay for and no exceptions

 

dont go in all softly softly, be stern and firm (like a school teacher) take friends ( they may see something you dont), ask to view it by yourself (on their premesis), and dont be afraid to pull anything no matter how trivial or small it may seem

I hate excuses too. When I pointed out one mark, the guy said "well there was a lot of work gone into this to get it ready", I just thought that's an excuse, not a reason!

 

That was the point of this thread to ask if I would be reasonable to expect 100%

dude 4k is alot of money, only accept a top notch job, 4k isnt a budget price

100% and nothing else, i wouldnt be happy with anything else

I had a repair job not long back and it is absolutely perfect. Perfectly blended into the older paint and cannot tell what has been repaired. That did cost £900 for a quarter respray though.

Cheers guys. Think I'll go over it and point out anything I'm not happy with and see what they have to say. Won't accept any excuses!

no excuses at all, if not happy, refuse to take it and tell them to do it again, even if they say take it away and fetch it back, refuse, leave it where it is and say no i will take it away when im 100% happy

problem is the painter is away for 2 weeks and I don't want my car on the street

and ur better off inspecting the paintwork in a garage with flurescent lightning as that will show up more imperfections in the paint.

if they leave it on the street wilst in their care its their responsibility if it gets damaged, besides... if you take it away and bring it back later, those imperfections will be blamed on you damaging the paint or something.

I'd say if you had your F355 painted and paid £4.1k you would want a PERFECT job. No overspray, orange peel, bits, fish eyes, dry edges, etc etc.

 

It should not matter what car it is, £4.1k will buy you an immaculate fresh new exterior repaint.

 

HTH dude.

Cheers guys. I'll point things out when they've finished and see what they have to say. Just bugs me that these people are so called experts and shuold be noticing these things without me pointing them out

Just remembered, they done some extra bits so they got a total of £3600 for the actual repsray but I assume I should still have a quality job for that?

absolutely

For that sort of money I'd expect a show perfect finish.