A rather clever chap presented a report on these things . His argument was that they slow trafiic down , add to polution in cities and cost fortunes to install and maintain . The reasoning is that without lights , drivers aren`t left sitting unneccessarilly at red lights when there`s nothing preventing them going ahead , causing extra pollution . There is no need to race to catch a green light , or the revving away , waiting for the green . Asked about whether drivers would drive too fast , he pointed out that drivers approaching a junction without lights

slow down and use common sense and courtesy to decide who goes first .

 

This has been trialled successfully in parts of Sweden , or was it the Netherlands ( anyway , somewhere more progressive than here ! ) There , it gave pedestrians the same rights as drivers , (we`re all pedestrians as soon as we step out of our cars ) . Whether that would work in London for instance...hmmm

 

Another point made was the debasement of our public spaces with yellow and white paint all over the roads , and all the stupid road signs disfiguring our cities . " If anybody painted all that stuff on walls , they`d be in trouble "

I think he has a good case for trials to be carried out in certain areas and monitored over a sensible period of time .

Food for thought , Zedders ?

Read and discuss

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AARRRRRHHH Annoying, ok i just spent 15 mins writing a post for this thread and my browser decides to crash so i start again and sure enough it crashes again so i start again and decide to copy what i had already writen.. yes it crashes again and i open a new page and nope it wont let me paste so screw it.

lights needed in city alot

not in less built up areas

Well done for perservering , Jimmy :bow:

Agree or not , a discussion is good :D

There`s no denying the fact that we have been conditioned to expect and respond to traffic lights . Maybe we should be given a chance to display a sense of responsibility and mutual respect when , say , approaching junctions . The fact that traffic lights have been around for as long as we can remember doesn`t make them indispensable . The people who first introduced them couldn`t foresee all possible future ramifications . This area of discussion , like many others , is difficult for many people to engage with because they fear change : " This is what I know , and have always known and I won`t even consider any alternatives ! "

Sheep don`t think , they follow .

On a lighter note , they make nice chops , bless `em

 

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there will be more 2mow im sure,

hopefully if my comp is in a better 2mow, il be back.

 

night night.

I've been saying this for years. What is the problem with roundabouts? They cost less to install and cost NOTHING to run. Only people who have ever disagreed with me on this are the ones who say "I hate roundabouts I don't understand them" - how the fuck did you pass your driving test then? :confused: Too much responsibility is taken away from drivers these days which IMO is what is contributing to the terrible driving qualities displayed by most.

 

On another note, it makes me laugh when people refuse to let cars out of junctions, pushing right up behind the car in front and staring blankly forward to avoid eye contact. Wow carefull one car length is REALLY going to cost you a lot of time isn't it :rolleyes:

I've been saying this for years. What is the problem with roundabouts? They cost less to install and cost NOTHING to run. Only people who have ever disagreed with me on this are the ones who say "I hate roundabouts I don't understand them" - how the fuck did you pass your driving test then? :confused: Too much responsibility is taken away from drivers these days which IMO is what is contributing to the terrible driving qualities displayed by most.

 

On another note, it makes me laugh when people refuse to let cars out of junctions, pushing right up behind the car in front and staring blankly forward to avoid eye contact. Wow carefull one car length is REALLY going to cost you a lot of time isn't it :rolleyes:

agree^^^^^^^ plus have you noticed humans have lost the ability to cross roads without first pressing the crossing button,they press the pissin thing even iff your the only car coming down the road and 9 times outer 10 after pressing it they asume there in a safe force field that cars cant hit as they dont even then check the road before they cross :rant: :rant:

ok back on topic: less lights and more roundabouts is the way forward

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yeah great idea, to give decitions about "whos right of way it is" and "Who should go first" to drivers.

 

Two words.

 

CRASH CITY!

 

Will never work, not with the attitudes of the UK population. EVER!

It would work in some places, like the new lights down my road, quite rural area, waste a lot of time holding up 20 cars on the main road to let one out.

 

Why not continue developing the traffic light system to make them more intelligent than the current systems that do a fairish job.

leave it to peoples courtesy, yeah right, only this morning on a five mile journey i encountered

 

1. Folk that have no manners and cant even thank you for letting them out (obviously they feel its their God give right for other drivers to make way for them

 

2. Let a car out at a junction, only for the ignorant split arse behind, to squeeze through, hide her face away from me and then turn off without even indicating, obviously the world owes her something.

 

3. People with no lane discipline on roundabouts (im not the best but ffs if you cant tackle them, get the peasant wagon!!)

 

4. Little scrotes running across the road infront of moving cars (should have run the Asbo boy over)

 

Some people cant even adapt to the rules of the road now, without introducing more to confuse the half wits and ignorant ****ers even more! :rant:

Works Here

:rofl:

 

 

 

Seriously though it depends on the Location. Where I live the town Square

has 5 roads all coming together and the queues can be horrendous but if the lights go out on a Saturday there is NO traffic at all

I think they should turn most traffic lights off after sat 12am, and just use junctions in the normal give way method.

 

Traffic lights here at night detect you coming, change to red then you have to wait for a car in other direction to change yours to green, theres to red or you sit there for the maximum time :rant:

 

There is not one proper roundabout in Plymouth that has not got traffic lights on it, defeats the whole point of a roundabout. But then... Plymouth is traffic light and speed camera mad, think our council get buy one get two free !!

QUOTE MICK1

"Seriously though it depends on the Location. Where I live the town Square

has 5 roads all coming together and the queues can be horrendous but if the lights go out on a Saturday there is NO traffic at all"

 

Yep exactly, same here..

 

 

Nice aviator by the way :rofl:

Yes we need traffic light, what else could we use to start a race if they were gone?

LOL my point was that if you FORCE people to use more common sense then they will have no choice. These days there's more and more lights going up so people don't need to use any anymore...

LOL my point was that if you FORCE people to use more common sense then they will have no choice. These days there's more and more lights going up so people don't need to use any anymore...

 

 

how can you apply common sense whn you dont have any??

 

Imgaine all those old dears in their Civic Jazz' it would be the death of them!

Good, less traffic on the roads :D

what about the revenue lost from people jumping reds though?

 

Theyll never buy it

Ah yeah and less from fuel tax because the cars won't be stood still for great lengths of time with their engines running :rolleyes:

Yes we need traffic light, what else could we use to start a race if they were gone?

 

 

OOOH YES forgot about that

 

More Lights Please Mr Brown

:rofl: :rofl:

More roundabouts=more places to drift then LOL

just sack the road planners and get some folk planning that know the arse from their ears!

The arse is between most of them's ears, it must be because they obviously talk out of it :rofl:

agree^^^^^^^ plus have you noticed humans have lost the ability to cross roads without first pressing the crossing button,they press the pissin thing even iff your the only car coming down the road and 9 times outer 10 after pressing it they asume there in a safe force field that cars cant hit as they dont even then check the road before they cross :rant: :rant:

ok back on topic: less lights and more roundabouts is the way forward

 

you bring up a good point, this really pisses me off, especially when there are NO cars even in sight but they insist on pressing the damn thing, they have a look to make sure road is clear then they cross, only then does the light turn red and we have to wait like muppets. aaaaahhhhh frustrating. And dont get me started on zebra crossings, humans seem to think they are magic carpets and just cross without a care.

there is a crossing at the end of my road where people have died crossing because its on a corner and you cant see the crossing until last minute this also causes car accidents.