been having fun most of the day by shooting various garden ornaments with ourlasses brothers air rifle, might have to get one of my own

 

any recomensations, nothing to expensive as i will prob get bored quickly

been having fun most of the day by shooting various garden ornaments with ourlasses brothers air rifle, might have to get one of my own

 

any recomensations, nothing to expensive as i will prob get bored quickly

http://cowboy-toys.com/products/shootem/ try these mate :rofl: :rofl:

Pmsl

you can get adequate ones now for £50-60 in most places.

there's loads of choice where I live, I know of 6 (air) gun shops within 15 miles!!!

 

been thinking about it myself but I don't have a back garden, people might get suspicious me walking out to my car with a big f**k off gun to go to the woods to shoot little bears!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Weihrauch bud used to have a 97k a few years back total quality but that was before I got my fire arms licence an upgraded to a ruger 10/22

there not cheap either around £200+ I think but if you want quality

my recomendation is the Gamo Shadow 1000 for roughly £100-130

As djtomo says. Great toy

been having fun most of the day by shooting various garden ornaments with ourlasses brothers air rifle, might have to get one of my own

 

any recomensations, nothing to expensive as i will prob get bored quickly

 

Oi Big Al' I have got a 2.2 you can have mate. its in good nick and I have 1000's of pellets for it. Telescopic sights are fitted. PM me buddy.

Weihrauch make superb ones, have one myself used it to take out rabbits so has the power when you need it and was fecking accurate, could hit a thumbtack with the thing at the other end of the garden.

 

Crossman Rabbitstoper is not to bad to, very light weight, due to most of it being plastic, but its bolt action rather then brake barrel, it also runs on CO2 or an air bottle.

co2 GUNS ARE MUCH BETTER IN THE MAIN THAN BREAK BAREL.

farking caps button

 

theyare quieter, more acurate due to less recoil.

 

although my pref is .25 ratehr than .22 but are rather hard to come by

thanks for the reply's guys, but viniboy has offered me a free air rifle (for which i am truly gratefull) so i will see how i get on with this before looking further afeild, im liking the look and read of the Gamo Shadow 1000 as suggested by deve8uk

thanks for the reply's guys, but viniboy has offered me a free air rifle (for which i am truly gratefull) so i will see how i get on with this before looking further afeild, im liking the look and read of the Gamo Shadow 1000 as suggested by deve8uk

 

I sold my best one last month to my next door neighbour. It was a gas powered 2.2 125 ft lbs or something. 1100 FPS and a non accurate range of 1/4 mile. I still have my gas cylynder pistol which fires little gold BB's. a great source of protection should the need arrise.

 

And you are more than welcome. I will give it a bit of a dust off and will send you a few pellets aswell.

I sold my best one last month to my next door neighbour. It was a gas powered 2.2 125 ft lbs or something. 1100 FPS and a non accurate range of 1/4 mile. I still have my gas cylynder pistol which fires little gold BB's. a great source of protection should the need arrise.

 

And you are more than welcome. I will give it a bit of a dust off and will send you a few pellets aswell.

 

 

how the fook did you get eh preasure up that high, they normaly break the obturator above 15fLbs

i prefrd the SA80 i had a play with down HMS Cambria on work expirence. Never give the keys to a nosy ******* ;)

I had the bad luck of having to "play" with teh original SA80. what a heap of shit, thankfully the revised versions are a lot stronger and reliable.

 

I actualy got told by the instructor not to use the gun as a club in a had to hand fight as it would not stay in 1 peice. Needless to say we tested this out, and the instructor was right, I ended up holding the barrel and breach, the rest was in tiny bits.

how the fook did you get eh preasure up that high, they normaly break the obturator above 15fLbs

 

Chris. Its just figures mate. I was obviously wrong but it had 125 something :rofl: PMSL.

I was sure it was ft lbs but could well have been the square root of cucumber for all I know about all that technical stuff. :rofl: still no harm done. It was fooking powerful though. :bow:

Chris. Its just figures mate. I was obviously wrong but it had 125 something :rofl: PMSL.

I was sure it was ft lbs but could well have been the square root of cucumber for all I know about all that technical stuff. :rofl: still no harm done. It was fooking powerful though. :bow:

 

 

OK I have looked and I am a dip shite. The figure I so wrongly posted was not ft lbs thungy it was velocity. and it was 125(0) thats 1250 FPS and the ft lbs was 11.50 So the new owner tells me from the book that came with it? Is that more like it?

I had the bad luck of having to "play" with teh original SA80. what a heap of shit, thankfully the revised versions are a lot stronger and reliable.

 

I actualy got told by the instructor not to use the gun as a club in a had to hand fight as it would not stay in 1 peice. Needless to say we tested this out, and the instructor was right, I ended up holding the barrel and breach, the rest was in tiny bits.

 

bloody right i still have the scar where i cocked it. i did manange to freak out the armourer when i disasembled ti and reasembled it in front of him perfectly, for some reason he thought a 16 year old should be able to do it lol

co2 GUNS ARE MUCH BETTER IN THE MAIN THAN BREAK BAREL.

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theyare quieter, more acurate due to less recoil.

 

What a load of rubbish.

 

co2 is for plinking fun. they are NOT more acurate at all due to the HUGE veriances in pressure you get in each and every shot!

 

The cheapest spring Weihrauch on the market the HW25 would p1ss all over a high end co2 gun of the same price every day of the week.

 

If your after no recoil acuracy you want a precharged pnumatic NOT a co2 charged gun. Also co2 guns cost an arm and a leg to run.

Sory Mate, was being breif and used CO2 as most would understand that rather than Pre-Charged Pnumatic (PCP) or Spring Piston or single stroke/ multi stroke systems.

 

As to the accuracy of a Spring Piston system, oh boy are you on a lot of thin ice with red hot shoes. I wondered when 3 years R&D with teh MOD would be of use in civy streat.

 

Spring Piston powered guns have major accuracy issues as the preasure increases. Notable 11.5 Lbs muzzle velocity is as reliable but as the preasure increases in the cylinder the round can and does edge further up teh bore. In higher preasure guns the round can be a feww mm or a couple of CM up the bore before the piston maximises its force on teh round. The round can move for many reasons, grain weight, friction, size, grease and atmosphere temprature. All these have a remarkable variation in accuracy at higher piston forces. Another notable point is that above 17Lbs muzzle velocity the seals of the piston tend to start leaking afoter 20 or so shots.

PCP and CO2 sytems deliver a spurt of preasure in a much shorter time frame compared to teh spring piston. There only fallback being teh quality of teh obturator seals.

One thing I will give Spring Piston systems is they are a lot quieter at higher preasure levels. Although. PCP and CO2 systems fitted with moderators can be very quiet.

 

PCP systems are normaly used for target shooting, utilising a single stroke system as the muzle velocity is not required to be all that high. The higher the Velocity the more imperitive the round is designed to withstand the forces encountered through its trajectory. These forces can cause some realy wayward shots when teh round changes its shape slightly. (twig shots are a *******)

 

PCP systems can be very acurate and powerfull. So powerfull and accurate that they have been used for hunting and in teh 1800 used by the millitary. Their characteristic of being very quiet, having no muzzle flash, no smoke discharge has obvious benefits for snipers (or poachers) hence my involvement with teh MOD.

 

I am not aware of the systems I researched being made active, but Spring Piston systems where discounted as to make a round go 800meters we calculated we needed a gun weighing 70Lbs due to teh Piston chamber and spring weight.

PCP guns could be charged, but we had a couple of cyclinder failures which would of been fatal to teh opperaers but the gun would of been about teh size of an SA80 but with a slightly longer barrel.

 

But without doubt the PCP and CO2 guns where FAR more accurate than Spring Piston systems at teh same preasures.

 

for tinkering about in your back garden or in athe woods, you cant beat a Spring Piston system for cost, and ease of use. For target work, use a PCP single stroke system like they do in teh Olympics.

Notable 11.5 Lbs muzzle velocity is as reliable but as the preasure increases in the cylinder the round can and does edge further up teh bore. In higher preasure guns the round can be a feww mm or a couple of CM up the bore before the piston maximises its force on teh round. The round can move for many reasons, grain weight, friction, size, grease and atmosphere temprature. All these have a remarkable variation in accuracy at higher piston forces.

 

Oh come off it, who in the real world would use a spring gun for muzzle velocities requiring a firearms licence? Yes I know it was not that uncommon a few years ago when PCP guns were just entering the market but they were still not "that" powerful 20-25Lbs. You can now get a Rapid seven converted to 100 Lbs muzzle velocity AND get 50 useable shots a bottle.

 

You are right that VERY few people bother with upgrading the spring route because it’s not that effective, but that’s not what we are talking about in this thread.

 

We are talking about your bog standard air gun user. The under 12Lbs muzzle velocity. Co2 has always has been massive fun due to the quickness you can shoot but you won’t get near the accuracy of a PCP OR a good spring gun.

calm down guys, im only shooting an old wwf figure (kurt angle) and a catapiller garden ornament lol

calm down guys, im only shooting an old wwf figure (kurt angle) and a catapiller garden ornament lol

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: to put this thread back on course fvkin classic "plinking mrs jones cat" :D

calm down guys, im only shooting an old wwf figure (kurt angle) and a catapiller garden ornament lol

 

 

just watch you don't get the coppers storming round, bit more shit hot these days compared to a few years ago.

 

I can still remember the faces of the 2 coppers when I got pulled over on the way to my mates farm. 750 rounds in glovebox and a ruger 10/22 semi auto in the boot in my custom locking case. Couldn't do **** all though was all legit :D

dont wory im calm. its nick whos in a tizzy. must be that time of month ;)