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......well where do i start ?? with a big thanks of course .....to all those who offered starter motors, help, and tools ( especially Kirbz and his dad for the loan of the trolley jack ) .......starter motor is now in AND GUESS WHAT ....first turn of the key..bruummmmm vroomm VROOOMMM goes like a good un ...except for the squealing of the drive belts for the first 20 seconds..all is now fine and the sun is shining in my world :)) :hyper: :hyper: