Any thoughts on these for price?

 

http://www.turbochargers.com/Turbos/TurboUpgrades/300Garrets.htm

 

Would go stage 2

Reconditioned turbos are only as good as the reconditioner!

 

The best way if you can afford it are brand new turbos, as they are proven, more modern in design and will save you money in the long run!

Reconditioned turbos are only as good as the reconditioner!

 

The best way if you can afford it are brand new turbos, as they are proven, more modern in design and will save you money in the long run!

 

 

Ok, can see where your coming from, does anyone have a price for the cheapest place for stock NEW turbos and a price for a small upgraded turbo? :smash:

They'll cost more than buying a 4.5 V8 Nissan (£350 ish) then having the head work done + bits and bobs and ECU up grade and wiring etc. Fitted V8 running 450BHP ish for about £3500.

 

New Turbos = £2500 to £3000

New pistons = £700 to £1200

Rebore = £200

Then all ancilary bits to replace like water pump, oil pump, etc. So you've spent £4500 and unless you change the injectors you have a 400bhp max out. Then you need a better unduction, exhaust etc and before you know it you've spent £12000 on an engine and performance bits.

 

Beleive me I know I've written the book and eaten the pie. £3500 will get you awesome V8 power and sound track and if you want to be silly you can supercharge for about another £1200 and have 600bhp+.

 

V8 is the only way to go.

 

My next Z project is going to be SWB V8

Mark can I borrow that book when you've finished with it !

 

That does indeed sound very interesting.....what is the 4.5 out of and did you actually get this all costed out ?

 

Mark

Mark can I borrow that book when you've finished with it !

 

That does indeed sound very interesting.....what is the 4.5 out of and did you actually get this all costed out ?

 

Mark

 

The book I wrote was how to waste £30K on a original 300zx and still end up with fooked and unreliable engine that is blown away by a V8 convertion costing a fraction of the outlay I've made. Even more anoying the V8 sounds ten times better as well.

 

Yheres a couple of guys in the Zed club put the Ford lump in and our very own MantaV8 has put the Chevy in. While John Dixon and Friday are as we speek finishing there Nissan 4.5 V8 convertions. Both are NA's (unlike the Yanks who love these lumps in there Z's with a pair of Turbo's) and both gone a different root.

 

John has bored out to 5.0 ltr with high comp pistons H section conrods trick cams dry sump and bespoke ECU pumping out 600BHP and a total build and install cost around £6K

 

While Leigh (Friday) has had porting and polishing work with bespoke ECU dry sump etc pushing a respectable 450bhp at a total build and install cost of around £350.

 

It really does make sense.

Mark I can understand you did not have a happy experience with your zed!

 

But please understand there are some of us out there who are making people's experience's with the zed a reliable and happy one, and one that doesn't break the bank :)

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=58843

V8 is the only way to go.

 

My next Z project is going to be SWB V8

 

 

Something tells me you are fond of the V8 conversion Mark............ ;) ;) :dance:

Just been reading this and laughing my d1ck off

 

Trust me mark ive owned a 700bhp supra, 550bhp skyline and my 300 should once finished have 600ish and if its done the right way a v6 or straight 6 are as reliable as any car, you may have had a crap build but dont label all builds and turbos the same as yours!!

Mark you'll change your mind once you've been in a properly sorted TT setup, Turbo'd/Supercharged V8's now thats a different matter but a fully setup V6 TT with big blowers will make you sh!t yourself

:rolleyes:

Anyone wanna answer the thread questions?

 

does anyone have a price for the cheapest place for stock NEW turbos and a price for a small upgraded turbo?

sorry bud ;)

 

looking at them tubs mate there no chance of them reaching that type of power.

 

the main question i would be asking is who has uprated turbos and how do you rate them and more important speak to the likes of zen etc and find out which are most reliable!! or if money is not really the object then stick with the likes if HKS or Greddy as there very proven and reliable :)

 

HTH

 

Mike

sorry bud ;)

 

looking at them tubs mate there no chance of them reaching that type of power.

 

the main question i would be asking is who has uprated turbos and how do you rate them and more important speak to the likes of zen etc and find out which are most reliable!! or if money is not really the object then stick with the likes if HKS or Greddy as there very proven and reliable :)

 

HTH

 

Mike

 

 

Cheers mate.

 

Price is as cheap as I can. Im not after upping the power I just want new/recon turbos so I know that they are OK for a while and that i wont need to drop the engine again any time soon.

tbh mate for the price zen are doing uprated turbos fitted it would be worth seeing how much they would do the extra work while the engines out?? worth a call

 

another cheap way is getting some oem ones rebuilt for a few hundred quid?? i have a set you can have for peanuts if you want to go that route which is going to be your cheapest??

 

Mike

tbh mate for the price zen are doing uprated turbos fitted it would be worth seeing how much they would do the extra work while the engines out?? worth a call

 

another cheap way is getting some oem ones rebuilt for a few hundred quid?? i have a set you can have for peanuts if you want to go that route which is going to be your cheapest??

 

Mike

 

 

Well if its oem rebuilt ill send my ones away. any idea on how much this costs ayone? and who is known to do a good job? :duffer:

ricerocket can sort that i think?

Mark you'll change your mind once you've been in a properly sorted TT setup, Turbo'd/Supercharged V8's now thats a different matter but a fully setup V6 TT with big blowers will make you sh!t yourself

 

Only if I didn't trust the pilot Chris and in my hands that power wouldn't bother me. At the end of the day 360 ish RWHP is about as much as can be practically used unless its at the drag strip or a race track with very long straights and fast sweepers allowing hard acceleration from +120mph.

 

I laugh my c*ck off at all the telephone number bull shit and I'm positive from my 30years of experience of racing bikes (building and tuning) turbo charged cars (I've had quite a few including a R33 GTR Vspec stage II and own 3 turbo charged vehicles at the moment) that modern NA multi valve V8 lumps are all that I've said and more user friendly and rewarding.

Well if its oem rebuilt ill send my ones away. any idea on how much this costs ayone? and who is known to do a good job? :duffer:

 

 

I'll say it again, reconditioned turbos are only as good as the reconditioners :)

 

The acid test is to ask them if they will pay for the engine out and the refit of the turbos, if they go wrong, you won't find many that will say yes?

I'll say it again, reconditioned turbos are only as good as the reconditioners :)

 

The acid test is to ask them if they will pay for the engine out and the refit of the turbos, if they go wrong, you won't find many that will say yes?

 

Or they'll say that if you send them back to them for testing and if it has failed due to assembly or component failure they'll pay in full. However when they have it they will claim it has failed due to oil starvation which they will atribute to you or you mechanic.

 

After a lot of rangling they'll offer to replace them, but not the labour costs.

If your going for Turbos buy New and go for roller bearing tubs as they are more robust than 360 bearing type.

The benefit with our service is that we suply and fit them if anything goes wrong, we sort it :)

mark your confusing two different types of bearings, you mean get a turbo with a 360 deg thrust bearing as its more robust and have roller bearings fitted instead of journals ;)

I'll say it again, reconditioned turbos are only as good as the reconditioners :)

 

The acid test is to ask them if they will pay for the engine out and the refit of the turbos, if they go wrong, you won't find many that will say yes?

 

 

OK can anyone actualy answer my question, Who are the people that are gonna do a good job of the recon!!! :headvswal

 

Or is there no one?

OK can anyone actualy answer my question, Who are the people that are gonna do a good job of the recon!!! :headvswal

 

Or is there no one?

 

 

Sorry that post was a little rude. No offence ment :duffer:

havnt got the pm's any more, so cant tell you how much exactly, but it was about 3 months ago, that i spoke to ricerocket in the traders section, and i think it was about £350 a tub to be reconditioned, and an extra ton per tub for 360 degree bearings

mark your confusing two different types of bearings, you mean get a turbo with a 360 deg thrust bearing as its more robust and have roller bearings fitted instead of journals ;)

 

You know what I mean though and thats still £500 a tub which in my book = £1000. The point that I'm making is there is no cheep fix and if Takemetothepub is on a tight bugget than tell him the whole nine yards.

 

+ Yes Mark I've have a bad experience, but that aside the parts alone to do the job properly if your going forged pistons, balance the crank, new oil/water pump, new hoses, new engine harness, new Turbos, gaskets and if you up grading them you'll need better coolers. The you don't have any change from £3k + engine out, stripping, rebuild and engine back in. How much you going to charge?

 

Forgive me but, I got the impresion that the guy was pricing up his most cost effective options and I was merely offering an alternative which I beleive from experience to be a cheeper option and IMO I beleive is a better option.

 

I'm not decrying the TT engine.

 

I have my heart set on a Noble which also has a V6TT engine.