Its just been anounced on the news that Fat people (obease) can not get a hip replacement unless they loose weight. what is this country coming to?

 

Maybe fat people should be exempt from paying national insurance then?

 

And you think this forum is going down hill.

 

Some people are fat because they cant get out and about and exercise because they need a hip replacement. :headvswal :headvswal

And some people are so fat that the surgeons couldn't find the hip joint, or the strain on it, once replaced, would be so great that it wouldn't last.

 

A friend of mine needed a hip replacement at 19 and they wouldn't give it to her because she was too young ! The don't last long enough apparantely. She finally managed to get it at about 36 - many years of her (young) life where she was effectivly disabled - doesn't seem right, does it ?

Well I am having Tein with EDFC fitted to mine,if they can carry the weight of a Z then they will be fine :rofl: ;) Plus I will handle like a dream :rofl:

Meanwhile foreighn people come over have life saving surgery and fook off again free gratis & 4 nothing.

And some people are so fat that the surgeons couldn't find the hip joint, or the strain on it, once replaced, would be so great that it wouldn't last.

 

A friend of mine needed a hip replacement at 19 and they wouldn't give it to her because she was too young ! The don't last long enough apparantely. She finally managed to get it at about 36 - many years of her (young) life where she was effectivly disabled - doesn't seem right, does it ?

 

My wife has suffered from osteoarthritis in her left hip form the age of 16 when she was a passenger in a RTA. she has been told the same and is not old enough for a replacement at 35. She is a bit over weight but IMO not fat. And the reason is because she can not exercise. She can manage around the house but it causes her so much discomfort that it annoys me sometimes when she wont stop but she is a proud person and soldiers on regardless. Apparently with the technology available today they can only perform 2 hip replacements that each last 10 years. Therefore if she had one now and again in 10 years by the time she is 55-60 she wont be able to walk again or the hip will have to be locked into one possition.

 

But to tell someone they cant be treated because they are over weight is total b0ll0x.

what figure do they class as overweight???

A BMI of greater than 30

Its just been anounced on the news that Fat people (obease) can not get a hip replacement unless they loose weight. what is this country coming to?

 

Maybe fat people should be exempt from paying national insurance then?

 

And you think this forum is going down hill.

 

Some people are fat because they cant get out and about and exercise because they need a hip replacement. :headvswal :headvswal

 

 

you will find mate that most people that need this is because they have made them self fat, or old people, my mum needed a hip replacement coz she got lazy and fat, and found it hard to walk and shit, but thats the easy way out for the fat people, even with this op most of them dont even bother there fat asses anyway, my mum was told to loose weight first, they put her on special diet, lost 4 stone in 134 days, now she is stronger and fitter, and instead of having hip replacement she is fit enough now for her body to sort it self out.

 

and thats fact..................

 

it has also been proven that there is no such illness what makes you put on weight, there is illnesses which makes you depressed hence you eat, but this does not stop you from exercising,

 

wen im training for a fight or a comp i eat like a fukin pig and that is in the summer but do i put on weight, no WHY? coz i exercise.

 

in sum sercomstances (spelt wrong i know) yes you may need one but as for saying coz there fat, sorry mate no offence but *****cks, old people yes 70+

I'm clinically overweight according to the b0llocks mass index, now some of you met me on sunday at the midlands meet....do I look overweight to you?? No doubt i would be refused a hip replacement should i need one, due to me being 19 y/o and 15 stone at 6'2....i'm not fat, i'm big boned :headvswal

A BMI of greater than 30

 

 

Thought as much.

 

have to say im with karl on this one. sorry.

i do exercise once a year or so :rofl: What do you train for Karl? I wanna get back into playing rugby, will tone me up a bit!

i do exercise once a year or so :rofl: What do you train for Karl? I wanna get back into playing rugby, will tone me up a bit!

 

i do alot of rugby also, well i did when i was in the army, i train mainly for fights and when and if i can be bothered body building comps, that is the hardest i have found though, haveing a gud body is the least of problems, you dont need a gud body to be fit, you look at most soldiers, all go out drinking most weekends, and most have abit of a beer belly but ask them to do 8 miles in 1hr 15 min and most of them will do it, and thats with kit on there back, 70% diet 30% exercise, perfect ration of diet unless diabetic is 60% protein 20% carbs and 10%.

 

if you stick to that and exercise your heart over 60% for longer then 45min 4 times a week you carnt go wrong, if you really want to get complacated i can go into blood preasure aswell, im sure there is a few of you on here with that (blood preasure problems)

 

karl

A BMI of greater than 30

Dang!! :rofl:

i do alot of rugby also, well i did when i was in the army, i train mainly for fights and when and if i can be bothered body building comps, that is the hardest i have found though, haveing a gud body is the least of problems, you dont need a gud body to be fit, you look at most soldiers, all go out drinking most weekends, and most have abit of a beer belly but ask them to do 8 miles in 1hr 15 min and most of them will do it, and thats with kit on there back, 70% diet 30% exercise, perfect ration of diet unless diabetic is 60% protein 20% carbs and 10%.

 

if you stick to that and exercise your heart over 60% for longer then 45min 4 times a week you carnt go wrong, if you really want to get complacated i can go into blood preasure aswell, im sure there is a few of you on here with that (blood preasure problems)

 

karl

Cool, i don't do boxing or martial arts or anything like that, but i do like rugby. Need to kick the smoking first, stupid habbit!

Cool, i don't do boxing or martial arts or anything like that, but i do like rugby. Need to kick the smoking first, stupid habbit!

 

yes it gives you cancer and yes it clogs your arturies, but it doesnt restrict your fitness, i have a mate who i spar with most weeks and he smokes about 30 a day i dont know if thats alot or not coz im not a smoker but i sounds alot, and he is twice as fit as i am.

 

karl

you will find mate that most people that need this is because they have made them self fat, or old people, my mum needed a hip replacement coz she got lazy and fat, and found it hard to walk and shit, but thats the easy way out for the fat people, even with this op most of them dont even bother there fat asses anyway, my mum was told to loose weight first, they put her on special diet, lost 4 stone in 134 days, now she is stronger and fitter, and instead of having hip replacement she is fit enough now for her body to sort it self out.

 

and thats fact..................

 

it has also been proven that there is no such illness what makes you put on weight, there is illnesses which makes you depressed hence you eat, but this does not stop you from exercising,

 

wen im training for a fight or a comp i eat like a fukin pig and that is in the summer but do i put on weight, no WHY? coz i exercise.

 

in sum sercomstances (spelt wrong i know) yes you may need one but as for saying coz there fat, sorry mate no offence but *****cks, old people yes 70+

 

 

I aint sure you know what your talking about Karl. No Disrespect mate but no one said its because they are fat they need one bud. They are saying that they aint entitled to get a hip job done because they are fat??? And has for there being no disease that makes you fat there is: PWD. Parader Willi Disease. Sorry mate but check it out. We aint all got the same metabalism and yes you exercise but if you had read the thread properly what is being said is some people cant exercise so therefore put on weight. Lazy people might not (in some peoples eyes) deserve treatment. So lets ignor them and just let them die for being lazy and fat. Punishment being better than cure.

I'LL never be fat.......im a skinny git....

I aint sure you know what your talking about Karl. No Disrespect mate but no one said its because they are fat they need one bud. They are saying that they aint entitled to get a hip job done because they are fat??? And has for there being no disease that makes you fat there is: PWD. Parader Willi Disease. Sorry mate but check it out. We aint all got the same metabalism and yes you exercise but if you had read the thread properly what is being said is some people cant exercise so therefore put on weight. Lazy people might not (in some peoples eyes) deserve treatment. So lets ignor them and just let them die for being lazy and fat. Punishment being better than cure.

 

 

ok i may have red sum parts wrong and for that i apologise, when i did my fitness instructers course and dieation course, it was found that there are NO PROVEN ILLNESS, that makes you fat........... if over a period of time you dont exercise and you get lazy so on and so on, you are prone to illnesses infections and other shit things we dont want, WHY IS THIS? its because out bodies are not strong enough to fight off the small illnesses, hence it blows up and becomes a big illness, and thats what they say is the problem, they dont go back 20-30 yrs and look at there lifestyle, coz thats to hard, its easyer to say YES YOU HAVE THIS ILLNESS, THIS IS WHY YOUR FAT AND THIS IS WHY YOU CARNT EXERCISE. kids these days are at the highest fat rates, why? AND SORRY IF THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU, BUT all they do is stay in and play computer from morning to night and it all comes down to 2 or in sum aspects 1 PARENTS my mum made me go out after i did my home work, you all know what im talking about, we played tag or footie or you shat in sum bog role lit it and then knocked on the persons door and ran away.

 

we never stayed in.

 

thats my point mate

ok i may have red sum parts wrong and for that i apologise, when i did my fitness instructers course and dieation course, it was found that there are NO PROVEN ILLNESS, that makes you fat........... if over a period of time you dont exercise and you get lazy so on and so on, you are prone to illnesses infections and other shit things we dont want, WHY IS THIS? its because out bodies are not strong enough to fight off the small illnesses, hence it blows up and becomes a big illness, and thats what they say is the problem, they dont go back 20-30 yrs and look at there lifestyle, coz thats to hard, its easyer to say YES YOU HAVE THIS ILLNESS, THIS IS WHY YOUR FAT AND THIS IS WHY YOU CARNT EXERCISE. kids these days are at the highest fat rates, why? AND SORRY IF THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU, BUT all they do is stay in and play computer from morning to night and it all comes down to 2 or in sum aspects 1 PARENTS my mum made me go out after i did my home work, you all know what im talking about, we played tag or footie or you shat in sum bog role lit it and then knocked on the persons door and ran away.

 

we never stayed in.

 

thats my point mate

 

NP mate. I know you a bit and you are not an Ar5e so fair play bud. Point taken and believe me i know what you mean by that. I have seen so many people that are ridiculasly fat so much that they cant hardly walk. and they have a disabled badge in the car. Still Though. They are still all entitled to health care. Just like smokers not getting treatment for cancer. Its wrong. IMO.

Well I am having Tein with EDFC fitted to mine,

 

:rofl::rofl:

 

Mac, is that your pants getter damper?... :o :D

:o i am wot i am and wot i am needs no excuses if i need a hip and they dont give it to me then when my numbers up then they dont get my organs simple :x:

So diabetis can't make you gain weight????

ok i may have red sum parts wrong and for that i apologise, when i did my fitness instructers course and dieation course, it was found that there are NO PROVEN ILLNESS, that makes you fat........... if over a period of time you dont exercise and you get lazy so on and so on, you are prone to illnesses infections and other shit things we dont want, WHY IS THIS? its because out bodies are not strong enough to fight off the small illnesses, hence it blows up and becomes a big illness, and thats what they say is the problem, they dont go back 20-30 yrs and look at there lifestyle, coz thats to hard, its easyer to say YES YOU HAVE THIS ILLNESS, THIS IS WHY YOUR FAT AND THIS IS WHY YOU CARNT EXERCISE. kids these days are at the highest fat rates, why? AND SORRY IF THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU, BUT all they do is stay in and play computer from morning to night and it all comes down to 2 or in sum aspects 1 PARENTS my mum made me go out after i did my home work, you all know what im talking about, we played tag or footie or you shat in sum bog role lit it and then knocked on the persons door and ran away.

 

we never stayed in.

 

thats my point mate

Karl you're misinformed and out of order imo.

 

Yeah there's a problem with kids not exercising as much as we did as kids, but some people have health/injury issues which are cause of weight gain.

Karl you're misinformed and out of order imo.

 

Yeah there's a problem with kids not exercising as much as we did as kids, but some people have health/injury issues which are cause of weight gain.

 

why does a kid have health issues unless they have a disability, it all starts from there and in your teens. and same with injury, if you eat healthy and worked the body parts that are not hurt you would in most cases be fine. its lack of many things why people are fat. and i think i have hit the nail on the head its just people dont want to except the truth in most cases.

 

karl