Try these - I've bought a pair and they are amazing !

 

http://www.worldsbestloudspeakers.com/

 

:hyper:

Good of you to speaker out on this one!

 

Did you have to earn a few subs to get these?

 

Or did you just tweeter your self to them?

 

What bass figure did you pay?

 

:D :mac1: :x:

£1200

£1200

phewwwww.....thats a fair sum...Bet they sound very clear

What amps you runnin?....

Monos i take it?

CUT THE MID RANGE

DROP THE BASS

COME OVER HERE AND SIT ON MY FACE.......

 

Thats an old chat up line of mine. Not once did it ever work?

 

£1200. I always fancied a set of BOSE.

 

They look good mate.

CUT THE MID RANGE

DROP THE BASS

COME OVER HERE AND SIT ON MY FACE.......

FPMSL.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

cant imagine why it never worked vini :D

Dont want to rain on your parade but when I hear that the worlds best loudspeakers are available for only £1200, I have to do some research. Read this interesting post on an audio forum, which includes comments from the manufacturer. I must admit they look like 6x9 car speakers to me..

 

http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/HUG/messages/63619.html

 

Just my opinion but I would imagine the manufacturers of the real worlds best loudspeaker have been at it a long time and charge way more than £1200 for their products.

 

Also, more feedback from a visitor to the Bristol hifi show:

 

Hope I am not too late to add to this thread but did anyone go into the Resolution Loudspeaker room? I did and was amazed that someone planted a poor quality automotive 6x9 three way loudspeaker into a Kapellmeister transmission line enclosure....and then asked £1200 for the pleasure of owning them!!! I was not sure if i should shout at the guys for being so cheeky or to shake their hands for a brilliant money making idea!!!!! The room display was equally amusing.....4:3 tv "showing" the loudspeaker response that was using a cheap spl meter as the microphone, and if i remember, has a limited mic freq response (i used to have one),connected with a poor quality phono lead with a connector block in the phono line......beyond me.

I would like to know if anyone thought the sound of these loudspeakers were worth £1200.....because the finish of the cabinets were not!!!

 

 

Gareth (part time hifi buff)

phewwwww.....thats a fair sum...Bet they sound very clear

What amps you runnin?....

Monos i take it?

 

Musical Fidelity a308 pre and power amps. Audio Alchemy DDS3/DDE3 DAC and transport.

 

Previous speakers were Mission 753s.

Dont want to rain on your parade but when I hear that the worlds best loudspeakers are available for only £1200, I have to do some research. Read this interesting post on an audio forum, which includes comments from the manufacturer. I must admit they look like 6x9 car speakers to me..

 

http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/HUG/messages/63619.html

 

Just my opinion but I would imagine the manufacturers of the real worlds best loudspeaker have been at it a long time and charge way more than £1200 for their products.

 

Also, more feedback from a visitor to the Bristol hifi show:

 

Hope I am not too late to add to this thread but did anyone go into the Resolution Loudspeaker room? I did and was amazed that someone planted a poor quality automotive 6x9 three way loudspeaker into a Kapellmeister transmission line enclosure....and then asked £1200 for the pleasure of owning them!!! I was not sure if i should shout at the guys for being so cheeky or to shake their hands for a brilliant money making idea!!!!! The room display was equally amusing.....4:3 tv "showing" the loudspeaker response that was using a cheap spl meter as the microphone, and if i remember, has a limited mic freq response (i used to have one),connected with a poor quality phono lead with a connector block in the phono line......beyond me.

I would like to know if anyone thought the sound of these loudspeakers were worth £1200.....because the finish of the cabinets were not!!!

 

 

Gareth (part time hifi buff)

 

Those responses on the forum quoted above are *****x. they display typical ignorance in the face of a radical new design. Yes, even in mature technologies, radical designs come along, or we'd be all driving steam-engine-ed cars.

 

The only criteria I used to buy these speakers, was a demo. In this case, hearing is believing. The theory also makes sense, for anyone interested enough to read it. The 6 by 9 has a supertweeter, so is unlike any car speakers I know of.

 

If you think they are so bad, please tell me what technology makes top speakers like Monitor Audio's GR60's (retailing over £2000) better ??

£1200

:shock: :shock: :shock: £1200 for a pair of speakers for the car!!! Lets just hope no twocers smash in you back window and help them selves.

:shock: :shock: :shock: £1200 for a pair of speakers for the car!!! Lets just hope no twocers smash in you back window and help them selves.

Hang on i thought there were floor standing speakers :confused:

Those responses on the forum quoted above are *****x. they display typical ignorance in the face of a radical new design. Yes, even in mature technologies, radical designs come along, or we'd be all driving steam-engine-ed cars.

 

The only criteria I used to buy these speakers, was a demo. In this case, hearing is believing. The theory also makes sense, for anyone interested enough to read it. The 6 by 9 has a supertweeter, so is unlike any car speakers I know of.

 

If you think they are so bad, please tell me what technology makes top speakers like Monitor Audio's GR60's (retailing over £2000) better ??

 

Read my post again - I never said they were bad did I? All I said was that I seriously doubt they are the worlds best loudspeaker.

 

Organisations like Monitor Audio have the benefit of many years experience, more stringent testing and quality control and greater financial resources to put into research & development. Although I have no experience of the Resolution speakers (which is why I didn't say they were bad), I have to be somewhat cynical when a new company enters a marketplace and makes such a bold claim as to be the the manufacturers of the worlds best product in its chosen marketplace...

Are they car speakers or floor standing hifi speakers?? If hifi speakers dont you think 6 x 9 is a bit small??

My brother is a professional sound engineer (VERY well known in that line) and his theory on the best speakers in the world seems to me a good one:--

 

You can go on about all the techno bullshit in the world, and compare dick size or prices, but the best speakers in the world are the ones that you like listening to.

Are they car speakers or floor standing hifi speakers?? If hifi speakers dont you think 6 x 9 is a bit small??

Not necessarily, i have heard some HarmondKardon (??) speakers which have 3" drivers and sound the dog's twitcher, fantastic mid range resonse and so clear!

Read my post again - I never said they were bad did I? All I said was that I seriously doubt they are the worlds best loudspeaker.

 

Organisations like Monitor Audio have the benefit of many years experience, more stringent testing and quality control and greater financial resources to put into research & development. Although I have no experience of the Resolution speakers (which is why I didn't say they were bad), I have to be somewhat cynical when a new company enters a marketplace and makes such a bold claim as to be the the manufacturers of the worlds best product in its chosen marketplace...

 

I agree (and at first I was sceptical and thought "car stereo") - they may not be the actual world's best loudspeaker, but I believe they are probably not far off, and are certainly a bargain at £1200 - why? - because the designer has created a unique design. Mature technologies tend to be afraid of radical designs, as they have a lot to lose by investing in them. They can create poor designs, and then spend huge amounts in trying to compensate for them.

 

Musical fidelity are a company who make what are probably some of the best amps in the world - but they don't cost the earth. They are not cheap -fairly priced - and are frequently compared favourably with amps selling for up to 10 times the price ! This is because they invest in production and don't spend huge amounts on "one-off" desiogns which need to sell for £££££ because they only sell a few (chicken and egg situation).

 

Nick has invested over £50,000 and 3 years into making these speakers. Because he started from a clean slate, he can benefit from existing desgins and think laterally to make something better. The reason they are a triaxial design, is so that the high frequencies originate from the same place that the low frequencies do - this creates better imaging, realism and reduces distortion.

 

wrt build quality, they are superb - especially as the guy made them in his garage !

 

All that R&D that MA put in - who pays for it ?? Think about it ? How different do their speakers sound each time they bring out a new range ? Not much I bet - because they've taken the design pretty much as far as they can.

the best speakers in the world are the ones that you like listening to.

 

Also the speaker needs to go well with the amplifier. I ran my Harman Kardon

amp into my Rogers LS55's and it was OK. Running the same amp into JBL Control 1's and the soundstage is much better defined. The same NAD CD player was used each time. I now use a Yamaha amp with the Rogers and that seems to work well.

 

Other factors to consider are room size, speaker placement and genre of music being listened to.

Also the speaker needs to go well with the amplifier. I ran my Harman Kardon

amp into my Rogers LS55's and it was OK. Running the same amp into JBL Control 1's and the soundstage is much better defined. The same NAD CD player was used each time. I now use a Yamaha amp with the Rogers and that seems to work well.

 

Other factors to consider are room size, speaker placement and genre of music being listened to.

 

A lot of this is bull proagated by hi-fi shops to confuse and divide the public. Good hi-fi should be good with all music. Room size is only usually important with ported speakers and their "distorted, artificially boosted bass". The resolutions can be used as near-field monitors in any room - even against the back wall.

From the website....

 

Having a good knowledge of loudspeaker theory is enough to build an impressive powerful loudspeaker, furthermore - advanced theory will help reduce some of the problems by tuning enclosure, components, and circuitry. However this is not the way to make a breakthrough in clarity and accuracy!

 

Being an expert in control theory, computational vibration analysis, fluid mechanics and thermodynamics teaches you; the more complex the system is - the more difficult to isolate problems and improve efficiency - but after industrial design experience - with all sorts of design and fault-finding methods you realise some things are much more important -

 

Design out problems at the beginning, and be prepared to start from scratch again and again.

 

Minimise components which are known to interact with each other

 

Listen for realism alone, gauging if the performers seem to be in your living room..

 

Identify improvements with blind substitutional testing - preferably ratified by outsiders.

 

 

 

The Search for the world's best loudspeaker

 

For decades manufacturers have known that - unless a cone is allowed to move freely it will lose efficiency and distort much more, but in contradiction - if the enclosure is not damped, the enclosure vibrates and radiates sound from every face, internally reflects the sound back to the cone, goes through the cone, and heavily interferes with the sound, as the damping is increased - so the efficiency decreases, and the impedance of the loudspeaker distorts - providing an uneven load to the amplifier, thus incurring electronic distortion too.

 

A very well known suggestion is to use a large enclosure less dense in damping materials but allowing the cone to move more freely. However calculation suggest that to avoid distortion within human hearing (lowest approx 20hz), the enclosure should ideally gradually dampen the backpressure along its path for at least 16 feet!.

 

Very few people would purchase such a loudspeaker for obvious reasons, and so to get the loudspeaker into living room acceptability, someone suggested that the 16 foot could be managed as an 8 foot pipe that was damped twice as dense - that way sound reflected at the end would be damped over a 16 foot length by which time it was so weakened as to be negligible. Further innovations allowed the pipe to be open ended, and bent and folded into many intricate or simple paths. Eventually the folded transmission line was invented about 1960 which allowed the 8 foot length into a sensible 3 foot high floorstanding size.

 

Unfortunately folded Transmission Lines (TL) although a good idea tend not to act as an 8 foot pipe if the bends are poor at reflecting sound waves - so the 8 foot behaves like a 3 foot as it fails at the first bend by reflecting-back and not reflecting-round.

 

A Few manufacturers persist with TLs today, because of the low distortion even with compromised TL efficiency. It seems most of those manufacturers consequently lost so much bass from the bends that they decide to vent the open end of the line to the front, and remove some damping - this restores some distorted bass at the low end, but cannot replace what was lost - even worse - the enclosure is now a 'reflex' speaker not a TL at all, and bass will eminate from bothe the port and the drivers in a superimposed blur!

 

By spending a lot of time building ceramic & concrete reflectors at each bend in the TL, the losses are largely eliminated, and so the problem is largely solved, but this is unsuitable for mass-production, and anything but a TL design.

 

The RESOLUTION uses advanced ceramic and concrete reflectors(5) which are both heavy (approx 4 kg in all) and structually tied to several faces of the enclosure.

 

The remaining losses are due to vibrations arising from the enclosure material - normally wood (which if grained is too springy, or chipped is too weak). Even thick plywood which is is major improvement is still a poor absorber of sound compared to many other materials.

 

-Unfortunately most sound absorbing materials are to weak to use as facets and baffles until recently - a new material is now available which is nearly as strong as wood, but has many more times it's sound absorbence - however when bonded tightly in a strong co-supporting design, tied at the ends with plywood and concrete, and finally skinned outside with bonded high-strength sheets of laminate - the whole enclosure is stronger than a hollow wooden alternative!

 

The RESOLUTION is not a vibrating cabinet loudspeaker at all!

I don't mean to get involved in or cause arguments as I don't know anything about (car?) audio but I know for sure to pay no more than lip service to marketing gumpf as you can make it sound like anything you want. What do independent reviews say? eg magazines?

 

 

Dave

ps not trying to diss your purchase, bet they sound 10 times better than mine, just was worried that you sound a bit like their market man! :nana2:

No worries - mags won't review them yet, as he hasn't got enough shops selling them !, ie. the mags are not totally independent. Some top reviewers have got them at home -so only a matter of time before more? reviews appear.

 

These speakers are for home use, not car use.

Fair one! Discoteque MainFella then. You got topless dancing girls?

Tip - for a decent and not too expensive system buy relatively cheap separates from good companies. Then it's upgradeable and flexible. Buy a preamp and separate power amp. Buy from ebay or Richer sounds. Good makes include Cambridge Audio, Rotel, Musical Fidelity. Mission are excellent value speakers. Use OFC speaker cable (Argos?) and decent interconnects.