Hi all,

A protest is being organised, please read on and contact John for updates.

Many thanks.

 

 

The time has come to stand and be counted. Enough is enough!

 

I’m guessing that there are many people who are getting kinda fed up with the ridiculous amounts of gatso’s kicking about and laser vans etc. etc. etc who are operating under the veil of being for safety when actually they are there to generate revenue – pure and simple.

 

It’s seems that the humble motorist weather it be someone who has a performance car – or classic car, or just a bog standard car is being penalised due to the over zealous speed enforcement that occurs in this country.

 

We all enjoy driving and we are being taxed to pieces due to petrol tax, road tax and now the speeding tax. So I propose we protest about it. Cause a bit of a commotion. Get noticed. Prove a point. Kick Off!

 

Basically the argument is that the speed camera is now not being used as a safety, life saving device – but a revenue device for the government – instead of being used in areas where these installations (whether fixed of mobile) would reduce accidents – they are being more commonly used in areas where it’s dead easy to catch someone slightly straying over an unrealistically low speed limit . It’s not ok any more – driving used to be a pleasurable experience – now it’s ruined due to having to spend each and every moment checking you speedometer.

 

I’m proposing that on the 1st August we do something.

 

 

Namely a mass protest by narked motorists who are prepared to get on the road to make a stand AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

 

Starting at Carlisle in the early hours as many of us as possible will drive down through the country – on mass – without breaking a single speed limit – or any law. But our route (which will be decided nearer the time – for obvious reasons) will cause a great deal of congestion and disruption – but hopefully we will be backed by the majority of the motoring public, who too feel aggrieved by how the roads are now policed.

 

I know there are many arguments about road safety and correct driving – I’m not proposing we should protest about any reasonable law – but a law that is broken by so many, so often, is surely a law that should be changed.

 

 

 

If you know of other people in other car clubs, or know of other car club forums where it would be a good idea to post a link to our revolution get on there and do it.

 

Let me know where else this is being posted so I can get stuck in and get this co-ordinated.

 

NOW IS TIME FOR A CHANGE!

 

 

VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!!!

 

email me john@themusiccellar.fsnet.co.uk

 

and I'll count you in and put you on a list so that you get all the developments!

 

 

Thanks folks,

 

 

Euphonium_John

yes mate I live in cannock

 

dont know where you specifically mean as Im useless with areas I probably drive past there regularly... but thats bad when they do that they dont give you anytime to react as its usually on a slight bend and then whack theres a camera

 

chris :D

there the ones that need cuting down Max and Paddy style!

AH right well its more towards stafford than Cannock tbh, ermmmm... as you drive from Milford up past Shugborough thru the Chase, bout 5 miles on you get to a junction - A513 and the A51 junction on the way to Rugeley.

It's at the junction sorry

Junction 8 M25 today, big yellow camera van, with men in BRIGHT yellow jackets pointing laser guns. Just incase people dont notice:D

Old Tyre, Petrol, Matches, Flame, The End.

Someone just posted this on another forum, it seems you shouldn't always be too hasty in accepting the 'law is the law' and sending off your 60 quid :-)

 

QUOTE

"Got home last night to a letter from plod informing me of their intention to prosecute me for driving at 59mph through a stealth tax collection device at Ryton flyover on the A45 heading towards Coventry. Initial thoughts were to send off my licence for it's 3 gold stars for good driving, but then I remembered the circumstances...

 

As the A45 has several such stealth tax collection devices on it which I have driven past many hundreds of times, I found it a little unlikely that on this particular moring I'd decided to speed past it. Thinking back, I remembered the morning in question...I was getting tailgated by a driver in a people carrier (nice one love, I'm sure your bus will outbrake my Alfa and whiplash is such great fun...) who then decided to go for the classic overtaking manoevre right past the camera. The camera was one of those driver facing one picture types, a "Truevlo" I believe, rather than the back of car facing "Gatso" type with multiple stripes on the road.

 

As it flashed I checked my speed (50mph officer) and turned to look at her...big blue Galaxy, and going about 10mph more than me.

 

So today I phoned the Warwickshire Casualty Reduction Partership (yeah, whatever...) and got passed from pillar to post before speaking to a helpful person called Ginny who had a look at the picture, spoke to her superior and agreed that in this case the picture was "inconclusive" and charges would be dropped. Apparently the cameras sometimes "do odd things" etc etc. I challenged her and said that no, nothing odd had happened, someone had committed an offence (yeah, like driving a Galaxy...) and the camera had recorded it, it just so happened that you thought you might try to nail me for it at the same time and get another £60.00 to go to Reichsmarchall Brown.

 

I think it's a ******* disgrace that I ever recieved that notice of prosecution in the first place, and I wonder just how many drivers out there have paid up and are driving with points when they have done nothing wrong. I'd love to know how Plod actaully calibrates the Truevlos to differentiate between two vehicles travelling parallel at different speeds on one photo, and would I have been able to argue if some divvy had been undertaking me on the inside at 100mph? What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty...surely if one phone call sorted the problem there should be some safeguard in place from the start ensuring that if two cars are in shot then only the offending one gets nicked...presuming plod can tell the difference.

 

Oh well, moral of the story...INSIST on seeing the picture and challenge it EVERY TIME. I've a bloody good mind to ask for a copy of the pic of me alledgedly (OK probably...) hooning my old MX5 down a Welsh A-Road..."

IIRC Truvelo's dont have a strip of white lines painted on the road every time. And as they use those three detector strips across the road I cant see how, if both cars are on the strips at the same time, that they could know which was which.

I also dont think they care which was which.

 

Which brings us back to the point of this topic. IF, these cameras were a genuine effort to reduce speed, they would care (in this case) but as they are for making money, and/or showing us who's boss, does it matter if the Alfa pay's or the Galaxy pays? Or both?

I dont think people would get so worked up over this speed camera lark if the police also did there fair share of nailing drug dealers, car thieves, assaults on innocent people, for no reason.

 

But you phone the police and hey presto they give you a CRIME NUMBER!!!

 

well probably pop round in two days to see how you are, by which time you wont be able to remember much so we wont have to take much notice ...

 

 

but well go after those speeding motorists instead.

 

fecking brainchild of an idea..

 

and the police need to get rid of those stupid yellow jackets as they just look silly. :xxx:

Just because something is the law, doesn't mean it is right. Probably is but not always.

 

A law should be decided by a unanoumous vote of all citizens of the UK, not by some overaged dimwits who make life difficult because of how much we get taxed. Dont even get me started on house prices.......a ******g joke is what they are..... :nono:

 

A good case would be the one where the farmer shot the person breaking into his house ad then got jailed..... :nono:

 

A unanomous vote would have kept him from prison I am sure.....

 

Deep down, the majority want peace......