I have had a bad back for at least six moths now. Had a scan the other week and it seems that I have a herniated disk. In other words, tis of the fooked.

 

Woke up this morning and I could barely walk but still managed to get into work because I would be bored out of my mind otherwise. A big thanks to my mate Adam who picked me up, only took me ten minutes to walk to the car from my font door .. LMAO ... Anyone else had this .. any advice?

 

I am in complete agony ..

 

I am seeing a physiotherapist, but I find Holsten pils helps ....

 

Chris P

I work in the NHS. Nowadays you should NEVER be in pain. Put some pressure on your health care professionals. It's their job to keep you comfortable.

 

Good luck mate

 

Chris

Cheers mate .. I am taking some light meds ... They put me on Diclomax SR .. They are helping but the pain is killing me .. maybe I should go and get some better painkillers ...

 

Bloody nightmare TBH ... especially at work .. I sit in front of a screen all day long ...

Cheers mate .. I am taking some light meds ... They put me on Diclomax SR .. They are helping but the pain is killing me .. maybe I should go and get some better painkillers ...

 

Bloody nightmare TBH ... especially at work .. I sit in front of a screen all day long ...

 

I had Diclofen for my bad back which I think is similar (? non-steroidal anti-inflamatory).

 

I think it helps to keep your back moving and not sit still.

 

And make sure your back is straight when you sneeze or cough.

Tell me about it bud ... Coughed this morning and I couldn't move...

 

Going through hell ... and somehow I have to get to the West Midlands to be with my lovely girl this Christmas ...

Chiropractor? (is that spelt right?)

Can that help at all??

Last time I damaged my back I went to see one, especially after a physiotherapist told me that they dont sort problem's, they just help you cope with it, never seen the physiotherapist again!!

I had Diclofen for my bad back which I think is similar (? non-steroidal anti-inflamatory).

 

 

 

I had some of that stuff after I fractured a couple of vertebrae in a bike crash :( I was taking them and co-proximol (6mg codeine) but to be honest they did not really do a thing. I eventually got put on some TYLEX capsules....500mg paracetamol and 30mg codeine - and they were totally fuking space cadet material! :hyper: :nana2: Felt like being in orbit with a big stupid grin (before passing out LOL!! :eek: :p )

I eventually got put on some TYLEX capsules....500mg paracetamol and 30mg codeine - and they were totally fuking space cadet material! :hyper: :nana2: Felt like being in orbit with a big stupid grin (before passing out LOL!! :eek: :p )

 

Bah! Co-codamol (Tylex) is for amateurs! Give me 100mg of Pethidine in tablet form or better still a 100 in IM/IV injection any day! (Bugger Morphine it gives me a headache) :rofl: :rofl: ;)

And yes I do have a damn good excuse to have these before anyone calls the cops! :rofl: :rofl: ;)

I had some of that stuff after I fractured a couple of vertebrae in a bike crash :( I was taking them and co-proximol (6mg codeine) but to be honest they did not really do a thing. I eventually got put on some TYLEX capsules....500mg paracetamol and 30mg codeine - and they were totally fuking space cadet material! :hyper: :nana2: Felt like being in orbit with a big stupid grin (before passing out LOL!! :eek: :p )

 

LMAO ... I want some ... but to be honest I am in soooo much pain. Just posting here is hurting ...

 

I am totally fooked off ...

 

another pils please ..

Drop me a line if you're up bud, will go for a drink.

Hope you get better soon!!

 

Tell me about it bud ... Coughed this morning and I couldn't move...

 

Going through hell ... and somehow I have to get to the West Midlands to be with my lovely girl this Christmas ...

Going to be up for Christmas eve Bud,.. pain or no pain ... we will have to go out for that drink mate ...

 

 

will defo drop you a line ...

So are they going to chuck me out of the surgery for asking for Tylex?

 

Or is it not worth asking for, ecept for entertainment value?

 

All I can say is I have never been in so much pain guys and gals ... Getting out of the house is even an ordeal .. had to feed the cat from 4ft height today .. buscuits everywhere ... On the bright side though, the floor could have done with a clean ...

So are they going to chuck me out of the surgery for asking for Tylex?

 

Or is it not worth asking for, ecept for entertainment value?

 

All I can say is I have never been in so much pain guys and gals ... Getting out of the house is even an ordeal .. had to feed the cat from 4ft height today .. buscuits everywhere ... On the bright side though, the floor could have done with a clean ...

 

 

I really feel for you mate. Back pain is the WORST, there's just no getting away from it if you've got it properly eh? Hey, go to the doc's and ask for some, what have you got to lose? Just say a fellow sufferer recommended them, they're prescription, not illegal :)

 

I got on quite well with the 'morphine on demand' system when I was on it, but I was pretty fuked up and needed it. I found it didn't really take away the pain, but you just didn't care that it hurt. Strange.

Cheers mate .. got to do something. Never had so much pain in my life. I actually dopped to my knees this morning after I coughed .. took me at least ten mins to get up and after that I couldn't even walk properly.

 

Can't belive I even bothered to go to work .. Then again there is just so much you can take of daytime TV ...

Got to say Ive been ther mate, I feel for you, its washing the sills on the z that did mine, take the tablets, its like x-biker said they dont stop the pain but you dont bother about it, watch you dont sit watching the telly with slaver dropping out your gob like I did!

So are they going to chuck me out of the surgery for asking for Tylex?

 

Or is it not worth asking for, ecept for entertainment value?

 

All I can say is I have never been in so much pain guys and gals ... Getting out of the house is even an ordeal .. had to feed the cat from 4ft height today .. buscuits everywhere ... On the bright side though, the floor could have done with a clean ...

 

 

Try suggesting as humbly as possible, not asking... my doctor didn't take well to me asking for stuff (which I needed!) and wouldn't give it to me.

 

The same place prescribed my g/f some stuff without cehcking her background which gave her SERIOUS problems (which thank god cleared up after 8 weeks) so maybe it's just a bad surgery.

 

My back pain was never that bad but at times I could hardly tie my shoes in the morning so I feel for you bud.. it sucks!

Hey Chris,

 

Sorry to hear about your back troubles buddy. I've not got personal experience of a herniated disc but my father has had two in the space of 5 years (in his case weak back muscles but I'll get back to that later).

 

This is what I know and can offer as advise.

 

Be very careful with the painkillers. Aside from the obviouse addictive qualities you will be putting your back under excessive stress due to the fact that the pain isn't registering. You will then over exert your back and the pain will be twice as bad once the pill wears off ... This can potentially do more damage than good as the disc will continue to rub against the nerve (which could eventually lead to permanent nerve damage). A muscle relaxant is a better choice.

 

A disc is basically a piece of cartilage which functions primarily to cushion your spine from daily impacts such as walking, jumping, etc. A herniated disc is a disc which has temporarily been squeezed out of its original position (usually by only 2-3 mm) and is pushing against a nerve running alongside your spinal cord (hence the pain). Normally these discs are kept in place by your back muscles (amongs other means) which is why physicians are always on about execising your back properly. Anyway, you will probably find that the pain you're experiencing "travels" around your body depending on which nerve the disc is pushing against and will (in most cases) manifest itself in either your lower back or one (or both) of your legs. When my father had his first herniated disc he couldn't use his left leg at all and could only walk completely hunched over.

 

What can you do... First of all I'm not a medical expert and what I'm about to say is based purely on experience gained from my father's condition. This may not be the same as your condition and therefore you should be very careful when applying anything I say. In order to get the disc to move back into position you need to create more space between the two vertebrae which have squeezed it out. One way to do this is to use a "traction" device which stretches your body. I made such a device for my father which fixes onto the end of the bed and utilises a set of pulleys, weights and a harness (fitted around his waist). He spent 30 minutes in traction twice a day. Another way (although this could be quite painful) is to lay on your back and bring your knees as close to your chest as possible (this creates a bit of space between the vertebrae). What helped my father the most was Shiatsu (a Japanese form of massage). It is very intensive and it uses your body's muscles and energies to help heal whatever is causing you pain. It is far more effective than conventional massage because it concentrates on the areas around the problem and the bits which caused the problem in the first place (ie fix the problem not the symptom). For example, you've all heard that your internal organs are linked to various pressure points on your body. Shiatsu utilises these pressure points to help heal the bit that's not right. I'm probably one of the most sceptical people when it comes to this kind of stuff but I can not argue with what has helped my father heal. If it works don't knock it ;)

 

Doctors have been quick to suggest an operation to remove the disc and fuse the two vertebrae but in my father's case this wasn't necessary due to the alternative treatment he received. Fusing two or more vertebrae should be your last option because (a) you will never again be able to bend that part of your back again and (b) because that part it stiff it puts excessive pressure on other bits of your back which may cause more problems in the long run.

 

I think you will find that to reduce (not eliminate) the pain you are currently feeling the best thing to do is to take a muscle relaxant and stretch your back as I've suggested. If there is more room between the two vertebrae then the disc can move back slightly and stop pressing on the nerve and you'll get some relief.

 

Once you have recovered (by whatever means you and your doctor chose) you should really make a point of exercising your back muscles. It may sound strange but it will really help in preventing another herniated disc from appearing. Remember, once you've had a herniated disc that area will always be a weak spot.

 

Again, from experience, if the doctor sends you to get an x-ray you may be wasting your time. A herniated disc is next to impossible to spot on an x-ray. A far better and more accurate scan would be an MRI scan (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) - You get shoved into a tube and they can "slice" your body and produce an incredibly accurate 3-D image of your internals. An MRI scan is quite expensive but well worth the money.

 

I'm sorry if this is a mega message but I hope that my experience can help you even if it is only in a little way. If you want to have a chat about any of this then please give me a call on 07044016586 any time - I'd be happy to talk to you. I've helped several people in the past with my experience.

 

In the meantime - take it easy (I know that's not easy), don't move too much and try to stretch your back. Best of luck to you mate.

 

Take care.

 

Danny

Chris..it seems everyone has their views...but the ONLY people to lidten to is your health care people. Don'e be BRAVE...just go and tell them the truth

Chris Davies

Chris..it seems everyone has their views...but the ONLY people to lidten to is your health care people. Don'e be BRAVE...just go and tell them the truth

Chris Davies

 

That sounds like very good advice...

One thing is for sure.... pain killers are not the best solution for long term main, specially this kind... Someone earlier mentioned you just mask the problem, then carry on your day, and cripple yourself when the pain killers wear off...

 

My old GP gave me DIAZEPAM for a bad back! **** ME.....did they ever give me a BAD MOOD or what, made me really agressive and my wife said unbearable to live with..... and I only took them for about a week or so...

 

I have had best results with an osteopath, never had any luck with a physio, but never tried a chiropractor...

 

ALso what really helped for me, was sitting in my chair properly (back straight, upright, with my back touching the back support), and also when I lost 2 stone!! fat bugger!! LOL

 

Have you tried one of those funny stools things you kneel on,

They look daft, but are pretty good to use, and force you to it properly. I used to work with someone who swears by them...

 

Take a look here, only £40 delivered....

 

Hope that helps mate