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morning all...shouldnt it have been?

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=36820

 

your help is needed for the above thread...:)

My god. Traffic police actually still do exits. They all havent been replaced by cameras.

Location: where you least expect me

 

..........funny.

 

I would suspect this person is just on a wind up and should be ignored.

morning all...shouldnt it have been?

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=36820

 

your help is needed for the above thread...:)

No chance mate..fixed penalty (yellow ticket) bet the reg number is on the police copy, therefore it is recorded/documented.

Q were you speeding...course you were, otherwise wouldnt have got a ticket.

A No getting out of it, go to court and contest it, you are not likely to get off on this minor omission (not a technicality in law).

Sounds like you will receive a summons in due course as your licence was not taken (incorrectly) so your only chance is to contact the police officer who nabbed you and explain..do the same at court and request it be dealt with accordingly.

Streuth, it's the law!

Shut up and let me do the talking.

Like Stuart says, he'll be out of a job soon and replaced by a Gatso :rofl:

 

It's been years since I got followed by a traffic cop - used to happen all the time.

Now I only see them when they've stopped off for a nap on those motorway form filling ramps.

I hate cameras but at least we all know where they are :D

 

I think the next scam will be to arrest everyone with a knife in their kitchen because they could have an accident and hurt someone.

Should be a great money maker :D

here to help....

I know but we can't help it :tongue: LOL

 

"Holy Shi* Junior! Did you see that 300ZX?"

 

"Yes Daddy, he done gone and broke your car!"

 

"Shuddup Junior..."

No chance mate..fixed penalty (yellow ticket) bet the reg number is on the police copy, therefore it is recorded/documented.

Q were you speeding...course you were, otherwise wouldnt have got a ticket.

A No getting out of it, go to court and contest it, you are not likely to get off on this minor omission (not a technicality in law).

Sounds like you will receive a summons in due course as your licence was not taken (incorrectly) so your only chance is to contact the police officer who nabbed you and explain..do the same at court and request it be dealt with accordingly.

 

 

LOL! Typical Police response! Mr Traffic Cop, HOW can the police "copy" have my reg if I have the original with no reg? I know you guys make alot of things up so its possible but HELLO!!!! Minor omission? Answers alot then!

 

Yes I was speeding, hands up, but IF I can get out a legal principle then why not?

 

I'll let you know when I get legal representation.

Hang on this Traffic Cop got a Z?

 

If so give him respect, he may let us off for stuff as he's a fellow Z driver. lol.

what i would do is to document everything you and the plod have done.....and make sure in your plea of mitigation which you send to the court that at all times you have complied with and tried to pay this all along and havent contested it and in no way wanted to waste the courts time....make sure you send this special delivery so you have proof of doing so and in doing so you should only receive what you were originally going to receive and not have to pay court costs or extra due to plod cocking up and not you....you have already admitted guilt and now trying to get out on a technical point will only cost you ......twice i have done this once on appeal and once on sentencing and on both occasions it was instrumental in me being dealt with most leaniently

All sorted. Thanks Tooley I had the whole Police Station conversation on tape and the witness statement copied etc. It appears that legally I have grounds on this and not the ticket. In other words duff info from local Police. The worst is 3 points and £60 the best nothing! The fight goes on....... the solicitor is free!:)

write the police cars registration on it :D

No chance mate..fixed penalty (yellow ticket) bet the reg number is on the police copy, therefore it is recorded/documented.

Q were you speeding...course you were, otherwise wouldnt have got a ticket.

A No getting out of it, go to court and contest it, you are not likely to get off on this minor omission (not a technicality in law).

Sounds like you will receive a summons in due course as your licence was not taken (incorrectly) so your only chance is to contact the police officer who nabbed you and explain..do the same at court and request it be dealt with accordingly.

 

Isn't the ticket just in duplicate? Why would the police copy be any different to the one handed over?

 

"No chance mate".......I can hear the smugness in your voice from here. What if the reg wasn't on the police copy? Would that make any difference?

"Not likely" to get off, is not "no chance".

 

"Here to help"........ you're not going to help anyone get off. Your circuitry would probably malfunction and your head will explode.

Obviously I have a working knowledge of this subject..(all day every day)

I spend more time in court than I would like...

Like I said, and has already been confirmed..cant contest ticket on omission alone..can contest the evidence though,, you will be provided advanced disclosure if you have to go to court..your brief will sort this out

As advised before, and I believe this was confirmed, the advice in the police station was incorrect so at the worst it would be dealt with as a fixed penalty.

James 300...? what are you talking about?

morning all...shouldnt it have been?

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=36820

 

your help is needed for the above thread...:)

PM me...no bull...

All sorted. Thanks Tooley I had the whole Police Station conversation on tape and the witness statement copied etc. It appears that legally I have grounds on this and not the ticket. In other words duff info from local Police. The worst is 3 points and £60 the best nothing! The fight goes on....... the solicitor is free!:)

 

Thyere is another way..phone then write to their central ticket office, point out the facts, were you asked to produce insurance too, therefore you could'nt and should have been reported for no insurance when you went to hand your licence over. likewise for MOT..depends if the police asked for it,

this should be referred to the issuing officer who may agree to retract out of embarrasment, if not you are going to be summoned to court. It is possible that by writing a clear factual letter (not sarcastic or no chance) you might be able to slide out of it...of course, if your speed was too excessive then....mmm.

If you do get summonsed you can rely on the fact that the police failed to take your licence when you went to surrender it (if you intend to plead guilty) and this should be dealt with as a penalty (3 points £60 but you would still have to pay CPS costs I'm afraid)..mention this in your correspondence to the police...

Or you could plead not guilty and contest the police evidence, you will be sent this prior to the court date and are entitled to it under the rules of disclosure, you CANNOT rely on the omission of your reg number on the fixed penalty as the omission may have been realised and written down shortly after,,i.e when the original notes were prepared either at the time or soon after...A lot depends on what device was used, Vascar...not a hope of getting off if it was calibrated correctly, Police pilot..same and usually video evidence to support it, speedo..same again, calibration issues, laser, never known anyone throw doubt on this device as it is so accurate and instant, hand held radar (the little blach 'hairdryer things' now thats another matter, totally inadequate.

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Ahhh chunk :nono: Using a jedi to do your work for you..

 

Any chance of a perm mate??? :D

Thyere is another way..phone then write to their central ticket office, point out the facts, were you asked to produce insurance too, therefore you could'nt and should have been reported for no insurance when you went to hand your licence over. likewise for MOT..depends if the police asked for it,

this should be referred to the issuing officer who may agree to retract out of embarrasment, if not you are going to be summoned to court. It is possible that by writing a clear factual letter (not sarcastic or no chance) you might be able to slide out of it...of course, if your speed was too excessive then....mmm.

If you do get summonsed you can rely on the fact that the police failed to take your licence when you went to surrender it (if you intend to plead guilty) and this should be dealt with as a penalty (3 points £60 but you would still have to pay CPS costs I'm afraid)..mention this in your correspondence to the police...

Or you could plead not guilty and contest the police evidence, you will be sent this prior to the court date and are entitled to it under the rules of disclosure, you CANNOT rely on the omission of your reg number on the fixed penalty as the omission may have been realised and written down shortly after,,i.e when the original notes were prepared either at the time or soon after...A lot depends on what device was used, Vascar...not a hope of getting off if it was calibrated correctly, Police pilot..same and usually video evidence to support it, speedo..same again, calibration issues, laser, never known anyone throw doubt on this device as it is so accurate and instant, hand held radar (the little blach 'hairdryer things' now thats another matter, totally inadequate.

Want to know more?

 

Guess how busy plod has been today discussing this subject!!!!! :tongue:

big roy drives a supra how much guilt do u want.

Last person I stopped speeding was pissed as you like, never know your luck, might catch another one tomorrow...or is that socially acceptable?...

no way drink driving is a disgrace, its not the driver its who he hits that the problem.

i dont think speeding itself is that bad its dangerous driving. i think if you were to go 100 on and empty straight long road its fine its when u drive fast in town villages or in traffic.