French legend Marcel Desailly's football career is over after an amazing six letter outburst directed at TV pundit Big 'Ron' Atkinson.

 

The Chelsea centre back stunned ITV viewers with a tirade against Atkinson during Tuesday night's live coverage of his side's Champions league semi-final defeat in Monaco.

 

With the game slipping away from Chelsea in the second half, Desailly was clearly seen to mouth a derogatory statement about Atkinson.

 

Although this is a family-oriented website, we have decided to publish that tirade in full.

 

Desailly called Atkinson 'Cheap Orange Trash' and a 'Fake Tan Chunky Boy' before laying out Fernando Morientes with a casually misplaced elbow to the head.

 

Pressure groups were last night up in arms over Desailly's comments: The South Florida Orange Growers' Association called the outburst 'A blatant attempt to demonise all things orangey' and a spokesperson for Outspan added that 'This was fruitism of the very worst kind which leaves a nasty taste in the mouth, unlike our consistently juicy and delicious products.'

 

Atkinson himself was unavailable for comment as he was holed up in a tanning booth with six kilos of jewellery and a karaoke machine.

 

But a contrite Desailly issued the following statement: "I made a stupid statement which I regret. It left me no option but to resign. At the moment I can't believe I did it. It was just a moment of stupidity."

 

"I was very frustrated during the game because I thought Cheslea could have won. I regret making the comments and I apologise to anyone I may have offended. If you look at my track record as a player, I was one of the first in the game to give oranges a chance, especially at half time."

 

Desailly's manager, Claudio Ranieri, confirmed that he had received a letter of resignation from Marcel.

 

It is understood that he then turned it into a plane and then a hat and then a paper chain.

All good, but Matty my point is that merely saying "that black guy over there...etc" is not racist FFS... Its the same as saying "that blond haired guy...","that tall guy..."

 

Its the people who draw the racist card all the time who piss me off, I for one do not think any differently of any colour, religion, whatever but its pointless denying the distinguishing features when eg pointing someone out across a bar. That implies theres some sort of "stepping on eggshells" around how to describe a person, which there shouldn't be. These race-card-PC-morons must constantly be holding themselves back from accidentally mentioning the words black, yellow, etc :rolleyes:

 

Not condoning the word ni99er btw, I've never used it, and wouldnt. Big Ron probably uses it all the time and thinks its acceptable and thats why he said it. But his point was that Desailly was lazy...

 

Pete

 

Pete,

 

I was just stating my own point of view......not taking a dig at anyone...

 

Not even you........:D

 

But I agree with the whole PC, race card view.......it's got pathetic....

 

If someone calls me a big nose, I ain't gonna get pissed about it....It's right I do have a big nose, but I could choose to get funny about it...

 

...I think it's all about people and what they could get/make out of a situation....but that is up to them and shows them up for the person they are.....but then you have the other side of the coin when someone is being 'picked' on and then it's fair comment, but some people take the 'picked' on theme a to a rediculous extreme and it's no needed.......but that is down the individual....

 

I do agree also on the whole, that guy there at the bar thing but that goes for;

 

Blacks

Whites

Skin heads

Tramps

Old people

My reflection (after too many!)

Young people

 

I think they are all going to say something if I look in there direction, but I live in Birmingham and there are many things going on here that are not fun, I find racist to me, out of order and the sublime to the rediculous.......

 

But at the end of the day it's all what the people think/say/do.........

 

Matty.

Big nose!

Big nose!

 

Haggis eater!!

 

;)

I am deeply offended by that statement. An unnecessary racist outburst!

 

 

Only joking!

mmmmmmmm.... haggis!

I am deeply offended by that statement. An unnecessary racist outburst!

 

 

Only joking!

mmmmmmmm.... haggis!

 

I am hurt by your comments too but I did not wish to make a big deal out of it, I thought we could share a 'racist' joke but obviously not......

 

I'm saddened by such hateful 'Big Nose' comments against me, it's true I do have a big nose but don't draw attantion to that fact as do find it hurtful....

 

Who am I trying to kid......I find the mmmmmmmmmmm.... haggis comment hurtful, jesus man them things are proper nasty I tell thee!!! ;) Tried once, never ever forgotten.....LOL

 

IMHO everyone needs to take a 'chill pill' and smooth over the cracks in life...

 

Matty.

JESUS CHRIST: How blest are those who know that He's a god. How blest are the sorrowful. They shall find consolation. How blest are those of gentle spirit. They shall have the earth for their possession. How blest are those who hunger and thirst to see right prevail.

RANDOM: [cough cough]

JESUS: They shall be satisfied. How blest are those whose hearts are pure. They shall see God...

MANDY: Speak up!

MAN: Shh.

BRIAN: Quiet, Mum.

JESUS: How blest are those of gentle...

MANDY: Well, I can't hear a thing.

JESUS: ...spirit. They shall have the earth for their possession.

MANDY: Let's go t' the stoning.

JESUS: How blest are those...

MR. BIG NOSE: Shh.

JESUS: ...who hunger and thirst...

BRIAN: You can go to a stoning any time.

JESUS: ...to see right...

MANDY: Oh, come on, Brian.

JESUS: ...prevail.

MR. BIG NOSE: Will you be quiet?!

JESUS: How blest are they who have suffered much...

MRS. BIG NOSE: Don't pick your nose.

MR. BIG NOSE: I wasn't picking my nose. I was scratching.

MRS. BIG NOSE: You was picking it, while you was talking to that lady.

MR. BIG NOSE: I wasn't!

MRS. BIG NOSE: Leave it alone. Give it a rest.

MR. CHEEKY: Do you mind? I can't hear a word he's saying.

MRS. BIG NOSE: Don't you 'do you mind' me. I was talking to my husband.

MR. CHEEKY: Well, go and talk to him somewhere else. I can't hear a bloody thing.

MR. BIG NOSE: Don't you swear at my wife.

MR. CHEEKY: I was only asking her to shut up, so I can hear what he's saying, Big Nose.

MRS. BIG NOSE: Don't you call my husband 'Big Nose'!

MR. CHEEKY: Well, he has got a big nose.

GREGORY: Could you be quiet, please?

JESUS: They shall have the earth...

GREGORY: What was that?

JESUS: ...for their possession. How blest are those...

MR. CHEEKY: I don't know. I was too busy talking to Big Nose.

JESUS: ...who hunger and thirst to see...

MAN #1: I think it was 'Blessed are the cheesemakers.'

JESUS: ...right prevail.

MRS. GREGORY: Ahh, what's so special about the cheesemakers?

GREGORY: Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

MR. CHEEKY: See? If you hadn't been going on, we'd have heard that, Big Nose.

JESUS: How blest are those who...

MR. BIG NOSE: Hey. Say that once more; I'll smash your bloody face in.

MRS. GREGORY: Ohh.

MR. CHEEKY: Better keep listening. Might be a bit about 'Blessed are the big noses.'

BRIAN: Oh, lay off him.

MR. CHEEKY: Oh, you're not so bad yourself, Conkface. Where are you two from? Nose City?

MR. BIG NOSE: One more time, mate; I'll take you to the ****in' cleaners!

MRS. BIG NOSE: Language!

JESUS: ...hunger and thirst to see...

MRS. BIG NOSE: And don't pick your nose.

JESUS: ...right prevail.

MR. BIG NOSE: I wasn't going to pick my nose. I was going to thump him!

MAN #2: You hear that? Blessed are the Greek.

GREGORY: The Greek?

MAN #2: Mmm. Well, apparently, he's going to inherit the earth.

GREGORY: Did anyone catch his name?

MRS. BIG NOSE: You're not going to thump anybody.

MR. BIG NOSE: I'll thump him if he calls me 'Big Nose' again.

MR. CHEEKY: Oh, shut up, Big Nose.

MR. BIG NOSE: Ah! All right. I warned you. I really will slug you so hard--

MRS. BIG NOSE: Oh, it's the meek! Blessed are the meek! Oh, that's nice, isn't it? I'm glad they're getting something, 'cause they have a hell of a time.

MR. CHEEKY: Listen. I'm only telling the truth. You have got a very big nose.

MR. BIG NOSE: Hey. Your nose is going to be three foot wide across your face by the time I've finished with you!

MAN #1 and

MAN #2: Shhh.

MR. CHEEKY: Well, who hit yours, then? Goliath's big brother?

MR. BIG NOSE: Oh. Right. That's your last warning.

MRS. GREGORY: Oh, do pipe down.

[MR. BIG NOSE slugs MRS. GREGORY]

Oh!

[MR. BIG NOSE and GREGORY fight]

GREGORY: Oh!

MRS. GREGORY: Awa?

MR. BIG NOSE: Silly bitch. Get in the way on me?...

MRS. GREGORY: Ow!...

MR. BIG NOSE: Break it up-- oh. Oh!

MANDY: Oh, come on. Let's go to the stoning.

BRIAN: All right.

[music]

:rofl::rofl: Jehovah jehovah!

WHAT have the Romans ever done for us!

It funny also how certain people in Finsbury park with a hook for a hand can say whatever they like about people who arent from a certain culture should be killed etc.. he can get away with saying it and not even apologise. Ron says something less threatening, says he is sorry, and still suffers. It is wrong. But one injustice does not mean all injustices should go un-punished....

 

A sports pundit exercising his right to freedom of speech and voicing his opinion about someone being stupid and lazy is forced to resign. With or without the word n****r, he was voicing his opinion on a particular player which commentators do constantly. So the sentiment really shouldn't be in question. it's purely about the fact of using the word n****r. You are correct in saying black poeple use it to refer to each other and generally accept it coming FROM PEOPLE THEY KNOW. I am a ginger tosser. my friends sometimes refer to me as such. I laugh and call them a donkey chop. If a stranger in the street called me the same thing I can only assume he does not mean it as a joke. Think how you would take it.

Just to take the matter seriously again. :)

What if you were ginger AND had a big nose?

What if you were ginger AND had a big nose?

 

Fook off :xxx:

 

LOL

LMFAO!!!!

 

Sorry mate......... I had no idea.

Anyone who thinks calling a black person that word, or even using it in everyday conversation shows a total lack of knowlede about where it comes from and what it means to a black person, and is plainly racist or very stupid.

 

When have we white fellers, as a race ever, had it really BAD or been enslaved, apart from by our wives or girlfriends.

 

Bloody daily mail readers, we'll be on about immigration next.

 

We white fellers as you call us have been enslaved by blacks for over 2000 years. The slave trade originates from Africa Erotria, Babylon and Egyipt. By your statement "that word" I asume you mean the word that categorises peoples from the Congo delta as people from Northern Hemisphere are called Cocasian so before you open your silly mouth get your facts straight you silly white honky.

We white fellers as you call us have been enslaved by blacks for over 2000 years. The slave trade originates from Africa Erotria, Babylon and Egyipt. By your statement "that word" I asume you mean the word that categorises peoples from the Congo delta as people from Northern Hemisphere are called Cocasian so before you open your silly mouth get your facts straight you silly white honky.

 

 

OOOOK, I take it all back, it's really fine to use that word, in fact I think I'll use it tonight while out on the town. I do apologise for putting my opinions forward, maybe the word didn't originate or was used for the purposes I thought, so IT'S ALL OK!! Well that is nice.

 

With so many people on the forum obviously in favour of using it, seeing from the replies I got and recalling in the past discussions abount being people pro BNP and anti immigration and spouting sh*te, it's a wonder you don't wear white hoods at events and burn crosses.

 

STICK A*SE IT UP YOUR GO AND IT (rearrange) (and only directed at people I'm miffed at, not the whole forum :nelson:)

 

Yours respecfully,

 

SWH

LMFAO!!!!

 

Sorry mate......... I had no idea.

 

 

Ha Ha, that is too funny ;) :rofl: :rofl:

OOOOK, I take it all back, it's really fine to use that word, in fact I think I'll use it tonight while out on the town. I do apologise for putting my opinions forward, maybe the word didn't originate or was used for the purposes I thought, so IT'S ALL OK!! Well that is nice.

 

With so many people on the forum obviously in favour of using it, seeing from the replies I got and recalling in the past discussions abount being people pro BNP and anti immigration and spouting sh*te, it's a wonder you don't wear white hoods at events and burn crosses.

 

STICK A*SE IT UP YOUR GO AND IT (rearrange) (and only directed at people I'm miffed at, not the whole forum :nelson:)

 

Yours respecfully,

 

SWH

 

 

And so you should be respectfull. Glad to see you know your place boy. Now go fetch a pale of water or I'll be a switch you black and blue :rofl:

 

Listen us white fellas is fast becoming the most discriminated against section of society and weas'a getting pissed of by it. So people vent their anger. The Sad part though is that most of what you think is rasist is in fact just the honest truth. Making any area of society a no go area wether it be physical or verbal is to create injustise. Freedom of speech has to be for all and that means you cannot gag views because you don't agree. Thats called Fascism and if these things arn't discussed they'll feaster into violence.

 

There are too many people of the opinion that believe being nice and changing the rules to suit certain sectors of society will lead to better understanding. IT don't

Captin hook can insight genocide of inocent none muslem people because of legislation not to offend his bretheren. How ever If I said this guy and his fellows should be destroyed life infedel dogs I'd go staight to Jail without passing Go. Why? is it cos I'z white. You should really look at the full effect of what you prescribe. One rule for all is the only way to a just society.

Bit late in the argument to post this however; no one has accurately posted what Ron Atkinson actually said. what he said was "'He's what we used to call in school a lazy n*gg*r."

Now when Ron was at school, He's 65, the common racial/racist stereotype doing the rounds was that black people were all essentialy lazy. In the relatively

unenlightened times in the 1950's when most people in the UK had never seen,met, or spoke to a black person it was probably easy to believe that sort of thing.

The only people who now support that sort of thing are racists/white supremists.Unfortunately for Ron he's had that idea rattling about in his head (like all of us know phrases to describe various ethnicities (see White Noise by Stiff Little Fingers 1977) most sensible people know they're not true or at least wild distortions of the truth), so he's said it. If he believes it he's a racist it if he dosen't he shouldn't have said it and he's resigned with a bit of self respect.

Also "wasn't up in arms" at the use of the word Jap. Worked with Japanese people for 14 years and know they don't like the term. Just thought (wrongly obviously) that since the 300ZX is a Japanese car that we all have a lot of respect for the car we might show the same respect for the Japanese by typing a few extra keys. It's nothing to do with PC it's manners.

From a practical point of view sure ther are Japanese suppliers who may have seen this site and thought 'could supply these people with parts, services etc, but feck it if they cant be bothered to write Japanese I can't be bothered to contact them>

Also "wasn't up in arms" at the use of the word Jap. Worked with Japanese people for 14 years and know they don't like the term. Just thought (wrongly obviously) that since the 300ZX is a Japanese car that we all have a lot of respect for the car we might show the same respect for the Japanese by typing a few extra keys.

 

Well I have worked with them for a bit longer than that and they are great people, very freindly and i think Japans a fantastic place to go....but..

When I was in Japan they do refer to us as "gaigin" (not a clue how to spell it :D) which i think roughly means 'western foreigner'. Sometimes when your on the train if you sat next to an old lady who is asleep (most do nap on the trains) it was hilarious sometimes when she woke up and realised she was sitting next to a "round eye" they would jump up and couldnt run away fast enough LOL. Also got refused entry to loads of bars, they would just stop you and say "Japanese only" now could you imagine what would happen if the reverse of that happened over here? Also had some fun with these old japanese blokes who had a little protest outside the hotel about foreigners being there. They would chant stuff but if you went up and grinned at them they would just shut up and look at their feet untill you got passed. Also there was an old couple outside the museum at Hiroshima who looked at me as though I dropped the bloody bomb.

But why didnt any of this upset me? Because I really dont give a damn what anyone thinks, im English and white I cant change that and I wouldnt want to if I could so I found their little quirks amusing if anything. I guess that people are just generally softer these days and get upset to easily.

Paul

anyone fancy a pint?

 

Not a pint of the black stuff obviously.

Pissed.

I've got to pipe up about the 'Jap' thing. I doubt if there is anyone who takes offence to the abbreviation of United Kingdom to 'UK'. When someone types 'UK' I don't think they have no manners. Its just a hell of alot easier - as is 'Jap' instead of Japanese. Its as simple as that, no issue there at all. Making one, imho does more harm than good than the original accusation. If we said chicken chow mein spec then I could see your point, but we dont and I don't see yours. But thats all it is, I am disagreeing with you, nothing personal. If we were in the pub having this conversation we would have another gulp of beer (or Babycham if it was with Ryan) and start talking about something else.

 

Anyway, fookin weather, I wanted to work on the Z today.

If we said chicken chow mein spec then I could see your point, but we dont and I don't see yours.

 

Wouldnt that be Chinese spec :tongue:

Speaking of which, I might just have one tonight :dance:

Paul