Putting the power down to come onto the slip road yesterday in the wet, when all of a sudden I felt the back-end "snake" quite considerably.

 

I was able to keep the car under control but I was a tad twitchy about flooring in the wet. :eek:

 

This happened between the 1st and 2nd gear change, which is usually a little bit snatchy anyhow.

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Would having traction control help or is this something far more sinister? :confused:

 

Cheers

racelogic, but tbh flooring it in the wet isnt the most sensible idea ;)

300 bhp + wet roads= ?

Do the maths. ;). Give it enough in the dry and it'll do it then too. Wahey :dance:

;);) this is what they do mate....:rofl: aint it great...:D

I usually put the traction on hold in the wet Chris. Seems to help a lot (Or if i'm low on petrol :rolleyes: )

I go out in the wet just so i can do this. You will too. Soon, you will be one of us...

I go out in the wet just so i can do this. You will too. Soon, you will be one of us...

 

Tower where abouts in west sussex are you?

I go out in the wet just so i can do this. You will too. Soon, you will be one of us...

 

Yeah give me a nice empty car park and a soaked floor any day :hyper: just helps if i remember where the kerbs are when its dark :( CRACK!!!

I must admit that Ive never had a car so rear-end happy as my Zed. Even slightly heavier acceleration out of a junction to keep in the flow of the traffic 70% of the time results in my rear end sliding way out. (this is where someone tells me Ive got something seriously wrong back there!!)

My VW Split-Screen Camper on the other hand tends to have trouble sliding on an ice rink so maybe there's ya answer ha ha

Tower where abouts in west sussex are you?

 

 

Heading sideways towards a lamp post :D:D:D

Granted, just like everyone else here, I love getting the car sideways... but if you're thinking maybe it's not quite right, i.e. it's unpredictable or goes out more one way than another, there's the obvious things to check... uneven tyre pressures, bad tread, knackered shocks, or maybe the rear tracking. When I first got my 300 it felt kinda "funny" - drove straight but handled, um, wrong. After a bit of 4-wheel alignment, it was much better. Nowadays it just arses about everywhere (straight lines, bends, stationary, whatever) but that's a different story.

Putting the power down to come onto the slip road yesterday in the wet, when all of a sudden I felt the back-end "snake" quite considerably.

 

Everything 51x mentioned is worth a check, especially tyre pressures, the Z is really picky about that - and you need to keep checking!

 

First to second is easier at higher revs I've found, otherwise it's hard to change fast enough to match revs - which means a sudden change of engine speed coming off the clutch, which means a twitch! So I don't change up until about 2500 in the wet, and I do it slooooowly.

 

If you were on a slip road and changing from 1st to 2nd I'm guessing you were just going quite hard in 1st, in which case it will do that, and there's nothing you can do about it - loads of torque plus wide tread = poor grip. In the Z you can match usual traffic flow without going on-boost at all, ever. (I've done the 15 mile commute home involving 3 motorways, 3-4 miles through down, and a last bit of country road without going on boost, just to prove it can be done.)

 

Course when I span mine in the wet I was off boost, hardly any throttle, not changing gear, and I was at the bottom of second, so I'm probably not the best person to be giving advice. :D

And I've just realised you're on about an auto, in which case I'd use the "hold" function! (And find out why your gear change is snatchy anyway.)

It seems that my Zed is a complete death trap in the wet. Reckon its a combination of the super hard suspension and the jap tyres. I had to slow to 45 mph today to stop it slipping everywhere!

It seems that my Zed is a complete death trap in the wet. Reckon its a combination of the super hard suspension and the jap tyres. I had to slow to 45 mph today to stop it slipping everywhere!

 

 

The Japanese suspention is softer than UK suspention, and I dont think it is that hard. Do have have after market suspention setup?

 

Japanese hard tyres are terrible and probably the main cause of the poor traction in the wet as well as dry.

 

I have never had trouble with the Z in the wet. I just dont push it when it is wet. It still handles a lot better than my daily does in the dry, but the difference between wet and dry traction is huge, I think some people tend to forget that.

 

Stuart

Mine has HKS shocks and springs. Very VERY Hard ride.

jap tyres are asking for trouble, get some decent rubber on there. Ours had yokohama advans on and it was like driving on ice in the wet, quite amusing, but at the same time very very scary if you arent paying attention and it tries to swap ends.

Granted, just like everyone else here, I love getting the car sideways... but if you're thinking maybe it's not quite right, i.e. it's unpredictable or goes out more one way than another, there's the obvious things to check... uneven tyre pressures, bad tread, knackered shocks, or maybe the rear tracking. When I first got my 300 it felt kinda "funny" - drove straight but handled, um, wrong. After a bit of 4-wheel alignment, it was much better. Nowadays it just arses about everywhere (straight lines, bends, stationary, whatever) but that's a different story.

 

Noticed there was a ref to 4 wheel alignment. Can anywere do this proceedure or is it specialist?? And when i put my new wheels/tyres on will i have to get this done?? :eek:

 

Cheers Jonce

i had similar problems with mine and its an auto, turns out my rear shocks are leaking and are on the way out. might be an idea just to check..... but fun or what!?!?!?! :dance:

I had (had being the opperative word here) the same trouble, but Mr Hicas remover and new track controle and whyyyhayy.

 

Now if it only steps out when its told too. Like EVERY GODAMN TIME. god dont ya just love it

Hey check this, my mechanic is so impressed with my car hes selling his jag for one.

And I've just realised you're on about an auto, in which case I'd use the "hold" function! (And find out why your gear change is snatchy anyway.)

 

My tyre pressures are correct 36R, 33F and the car has had a proper 4-wheel allignment.

 

Maybe it is just the nature of the beast and I need to keep off the accelerator in the wet!!! (What am I saying? am I dreaming? Sometimes in life you have to say, what the hell!!, this is one of those times...........!!) :rolleyes:

 

Cheers

Noticed there was a ref to 4 wheel alignment. Can anywere do this proceedure or is it specialist?? And when i put my new wheels/tyres on will i have to get this done?? :eek:

Obviously, they need the right bit of kit... which isn't cheap. But I got mine done at the tyre place round the corner - Supatyres (spelt?), couple of mins away from SE in Maldon, Essex. It's worth getting it checked at least /once/ I reckon. But it's not like you'll need it done with every tyre change.

Im near Gatwick to the people who asked.

 

Nightwolf... Im sure i've seen your GTi-R around if that is yours in the picture. someone in one just like it saw me behind them about a month ago and gave it some welly on the a23. sound familiar?

Hicas removal good advice then? any guides?

 

I saw the metal brace hicas replacement thingy somewhere on a US site the other day, who does them in the UK?

My car handles a bit odd when you start going over bumps.

Rekon one of my rear shockers is leaking as I could see oil droplets on the rod that goes into the damper!