SRRAE Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 What you think? I personally thought the fight scenes went on too long, and you could tell most of it was computer graphics and not true visual effects like the first. Also the speech from "the arcitect" I need discussions on it as I think I know what it is all about and why everything is happening. Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TT Tim Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Awesome special effects but lacking in any real plot line IMHO. The original is a hard act to follow, because you've lost the 'shock' effect that the first one had. As for the Architect speech - just how shakesperean was that? Go see it if you want to see just how far special effect have come in such a short period of time. I personally enjoyed it. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMW1 Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Well the Twins in it used to Train with PaulC. I thought I'd mention that as Paul's a little shy :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by smw1 Well the Twins in it used to Train with PaulC. I thought I'd mention that as Paul's a little shy :D Yup, yup, tis true :D my 1 & only claim to fame!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRAE Posted May 22, 2003 Author Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by TT Tim Awesome special effects but lacking in any real plot line IMHO. The original is a hard act to follow, because you've lost the 'shock' effect that the first one had. As for the Architect speech - just how shakesperean was that? Go see it if you want to see just how far special effect have come in such a short period of time. I personally enjoyed it. Tim But did you get the speech? Do you understand what they do and the whole choice thing which origianally screwed the Matrix. Cos I have a feeling there is going to be a twist about Neo in the final one. Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdamR Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 I liked the "Empire Strikes Back" style ending - where everything is left hanging- at least its only a 6 month wait for Revolutions.... I also thought the fight scenes were awsome - yeah you could tell a lot of it was cgi but who gives a f**k, it was still amazing, and lets face it theres no way it could have been done with physical effects. However the MOST UNREALISTIC AND ANNOYING part of the film was when the police cars were faster than Trinity's Ducatti 996 IN A STRAIGHT LINE!!!!! now that really was unbelievable;) :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRAE Posted May 22, 2003 Author Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by AdamR I liked the "Empire Strikes Back" style ending - where everything is left hanging- at least its only a 6 month wait for Revolutions.... I also thought the fight scenes were awsome - yeah you could tell a lot of it was cgi but who gives a f**k, it was still amazing, and lets face it theres no way it could have been done with physical effects. However the MOST UNREALISTIC AND ANNOYING part of the film was when the police cars were faster than Trinity's Ducatti 996 IN A STRAIGHT LINE!!!!! now that really was unbelievable;) :p They could have easliy dont those effects with real effects, just would have taken longer. As for the bike. I was thinking the same thing. Police car can keep up with a 190/200mph bike. Hmmmm! I also think they tried to get the same type of ending as Empire Strikes Back and The Two Towers whrere there is a conclusion to the film but we have to wait to see the conclusion to the whole thing. Matrix fell short and just ended it with no conclusion. Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300z Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by SRRAE They could have easliy dont those effects with real effects, just would have taken longer. As for the bike. I was thinking the same thing. Police car can keep up with a 190/200mph bike. Hmmmm! Stuart LMFAO you are talking about a sci fi movie lol, the entire thing is not real, so it actually doesnt need to make sense? i mean your talking about guys that can jump on cars and destroy them, now if that believable then why not a car being able to keep up with a bike lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdamR Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 lol I wrote it in capital letters - I was being sarcastic ffs - I thought you'd have got that:p ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRAE Posted May 22, 2003 Author Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by 300z LMFAO you are talking about a sci fi movie lol, the entire thing is not real, so it actually doesnt need to make sense? i mean your talking about guys that can jump on cars and destroy them, now if that believable then why not a car being able to keep up with a bike lol? Have you seen the film? If so you will understand the reason why they can do that ;) Stuart ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLess Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by smw1 Well the Twins in it used to Train with PaulC. I thought I'd mention that as Paul's a little shy :D That is weird why would they want Mecredes Trained technicians in a Matrix film!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by TopLess That is weird why would they want Mecredes Trained technicians in a Matrix film!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D LMAO!!! to tune cars up to keep up with Duke's!!! :D ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300z Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by SRRAE Have you seen the film? If so you will understand the reason why they can do that ;) Stuart ;) Yes i saw it last night, and point im trying to make is its a SCI FI movie lol, does it matter if the car is that fast or not? I watched the movie and found it most unrealistic, i mean theres no way on earth anyone can do those moves not even stun men. :rolleyes: ;) :D (in case your wondering SRRAE the smileys are an indication of scarcasim) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRAE Posted May 22, 2003 Author Share Posted May 22, 2003 As do ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigRoy Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Ive just seen it, IMHO its much better than the first. Awesome effects! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMW1 Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 ok so what does this mean ... I :p the :cool: and if :D wants to :eek: then I think you should :o . You :confused: yet ? Because I know I am !!!!:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGroves Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I watched it and thought it rocked, Neo an anomoly created not to fight the machine but because he had to be created by the machines or the whole project would collapse. Neos purpose is to save man kind, but only by the destruction of the "free". I have so many things running in my head, is zion a submatrix of the matrix created to keep the "free" minds busy, outside of this matrix is their a real "real world" , is neo a programme? how did neo destroy the sentinals, was it becuase he was in a "submatrix" or was it because when smith lost his connection to the machines neo somehow took it on, it would explain how he could sense them. I guess I will have to wait until the 3rd movie, these things can only be answered by the writers, they have left it so it can go one of many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nelson MainFella Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 I thought the original Matrix was for geeks and anoraks - ie. people who instead of doing something real and constructive in life fantasize about being able to fight in ways they can in their computer games FFS. How can impossible fighting be cool FFS ??Cool is not the word ;) Effects on their own never make a good film - it's like making an album which is superb quality but the music in sh1t !! All IMHO ;) :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGroves Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by Nelson MainFella I thought the original Matrix was for geeks and anoraks - ie. people who instead of doing something real and constructive in life fantasize about being able to fight in ways they can in their computer games FFS. How can impossible fighting be cool FFS ??Cool is not the word ;) Effects on their own never make a good film - it's like making an album which is superb quality but the music in sh1t !! All IMHO ;) :D you are obviously to stupid to understand it :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nelson MainFella Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by MikeGroves I guess I will have to wait until the 3rd movie, these things can only be answered by the writers, they have left it so it can go one of many ways. They have left it so that you pay to see the next film and they get to spin a weak film into 3 ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300z Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by MikeGroves I watched it and thought it rocked, Neo an anomoly created not to fight the machine but because he had to be created by the machines or the whole project would collapse. Neos purpose is to save man kind, but only by the destruction of the "free". I have so many things running in my head, is zion a submatrix of the matrix created to keep the "free" minds busy, outside of this matrix is their a real "real world" , is neo a programme? how did neo destroy the sentinals, was it becuase he was in a "submatrix" or was it because when smith lost his connection to the machines neo somehow took it on, it would explain how he could sense them. I guess I will have to wait until the 3rd movie, these things can only be answered by the writers, they have left it so it can go one of many ways. GEEK ALERT GEEK ALERT GEEK ALERT lmffao he he :D My biggest gripe were the fight scenes, what a load of Crap , it looked like Ballett :rolleyes: The story line was easy enough to follow until i read what Mike just said about it lol. did you see the trailer at the end of the movie after the credits lol, another waste of listening to 10 minutes of KAK music to see 30 seconds of the next movie lol. Other than that i enjoyed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nelson MainFella Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by MikeGroves you are obviously to stupid to understand it :rolleyes: Tell me what it's about then if u r so clever ?:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGroves Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by Nelson MainFella They have left it so that you pay to see the next film and they get to spin a weak film into 3 ;) urm actually the film was written as a trilogy and I am not naive enough to believe this is not about people making money, :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGroves Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by Nelson MainFella Tell me what it's about then if u r so clever ?:D one word Hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nelson MainFella Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by MikeGroves [/i] one word Hope I picked up that it was something to do with fighting a system which has enslaved people. So it would appeal to those who hate capitalism I guess. I just wonder how many ppl who loved the film understood that. I honestly thought it was crap. I cannot undertsand why so many people seem to rave about it. It particularly annoyed me to see women fighting - how politically (Lara Croft) correct - Bwahaha. Maybe it is arrogant of me to assume that because I don't like it it's crap . :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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