Right OK. Critical updates are the updates from Microsoft which patch over any security holes found by hackers. Fair enough, they can only help!

 

WRONG!

 

Chatting to DaveW on messenger last night he said that his internet was going really slow after installing the latest updates, which were for Internet Explorer. I thought "No" it's probably just his connection thats slowed down a little.

 

Well, after installing the patch myself, I have noticed that my internet has come to a snails pace. It takes about 15 seconds to load to front page of the forum up, and this is from a 1Mbit cable connection.

 

Not only that but every time I click post, I get an error, to which I have then click close on the error which closes every internet window I have open, and then click dont send error messages to Microsoft.

Now this is since I have installed the latest patch. The internet is slow, I am getting errors every few mins. This is shite. Its made my internet, really slow and unstable.

 

Why has a Micorsoft FIX! made my computer worse?

 

I hate Microsoft.

 

Stuart

One of the updates a couple of months ago caused Outlook Express to crash when you tried to reply to an email and inserted a new blank line.

 

It took them about 6 weeks to fix the problem! :mad:

 

It makes you think they don't bother testing these things before they release them.

Mine is doing the same Stu:mad:

Phew, and I thought it was only me :rolleyes:

Dave

hmmm, think I wont do the update for a few weeks, sounds like you lot will be suffering until MS do another update to fix the update, which was to fix something in the first place. Microsoft, cutting edge cock ups!!!!

Paul (SPARKZ):cool:

That was the only site I trusted 100% to download stuff:mad: good old saying TRUST NO ONE!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/30426.html

 

MS security patch slows XP systems to a crawl

By John Leyden

Posted: 28/04/2003 at 12:22 GMT

 

 

Microsoft last week attached a health risk to one its own security patches, following widespread complaints that the fix slowed systems to a crawl.

 

The problematic patch, designed to fix a flaw in the way the kernel passes error messages to a debugger, was issued on April 16. The vuln affects Windows NT 4.0, NT 4.0 Server, Terminal Server Edition, Windows 2K and Windows XP) and is - potentially - very serious.

However the vuln is also difficult to exploit, hence Microsoft's designation the problem as "important" - and not critical.

 

For an attack to be successful, an attacker would need to be able to logon interactively to the system, either at the console or through a terminal session, Microsoft explains. Servers are less vulnerable to the issue, according to MS, because of commonplace restrictions on the ability to logon interactively.

 

Once this substantial login hurdle is cleared, all manner of mischief is possible.

 

"An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take any action on the system including deleting data, adding accounts with administrative access, or reconfiguring the system," according to Microsoft.

 

XP users who followed Microsoft's initial advice and applied the patch were in for a nasty surprise.

 

Reg reader Granville Gough writes: "If you are running WinXP and install this fix, your machine will be compromised. It will slow to a crawl, taking up to 30 seconds to open a spreadsheet, Word doc, run Meidaplayer and more."

 

"The problem goes away if the fix is removed," he adds.

 

In a warning, issued on Friday, (Apr 25) Microsoft says it has "investigated this issue and confirmed that there can be performance problems when the patch is applied to Windows XP Service Pack 1 systems.

 

"Microsoft is actively working on a revised patch for Windows XP Service Pack 1 and will re-issue that patch when it has been completed and fully tested."

 

However reader Scott Lappin reports that the flaky patch also had "disastrous effects" on Win2K systems, so it seems the performance problems are not isolated to WinXP - contrary to Microsoft's suggestion.

 

So until Microsoft gets its act together users are left with the choice of leaving their systems vulnerable to an "important" security flaw or applying an exceedingly slow quick fix.

 

Microsoft's revised advisory fails to clearly recommend either course of action, leaving it to the discretion of users. ®

I think I will be removing it then. Any one know where you remove it?

 

Stuart

can you not remove them from add/remove programs?

Installed it last night. I wish I hadn't now.

 

It doesn't take 30 seconds for me but you can notice a difference in speed. I too wanna get rid of this sheety patch.

Originally posted by smw1

I too wanna get rid of this sheety patch.

 

LOL Swap sides in bed tonight then Stu:D:D;)

Just done a bit of research for you and this is what you need to do to uninstall. (Don't forget this in XP and some W2K installations only) :-

 

[*]In Control Panel, double-click Add or Remove Programs.

[*]Click Change or Remove Programs.

[*]Click Windows XP Hotfix (SP1) Q811493 (or Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q811493), and then click Remove.

[*]Click Next, and then click Finish to restart your computer.

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And Microsoft say :- .... if you are the only person who uses your computer, or if all users of your computer are computer administrators (or members of the local administrators group), it is not important that you install this update. For additional information about the scope of the security vulnerability, review the MS03-013 security bulletin. To review the bulletin, visit the following Microsoft Web site:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-013.asp

Therefore, I reckon that most home users will be running with fully priv'd accounts (eg Administrator) and therefore can remove the patch without too much concern.

 

Don't say I'm not good to ya ! ;) LOL

Nice one Andy;) that has sorted it.

Use the Opera browser, its even faster then the unpatched MS internet exploder.

 

 

A small version (3.2MB) without the Java stuff:

http://download.com.com/3000-2356-10198503.html?tag=lst-0-1

 

The large (12.5MB) with the Java stuff:

http://download.com.com/3000-2356-10198501.html?tag=lst-0-2

 

 

Its a bit hard in the beginning cause you wont have all your favorite sites that popup as you type some letters off the url. But you will definately feel a huge difference in speed.

Patch removed and PC is back to normal :cool:

Dave

Originally posted by bverplak

Use the Opera browser, its even faster then the unpatched MS internet exploder.

 

 

A small version (3.2MB) without the Java stuff:

http://download.com.com/3000-2356-10198503.html?tag=lst-0-1

 

The large (12.5MB) with the Java stuff:

http://download.com.com/3000-2356-10198501.html?tag=lst-0-2

 

 

Its a bit hard in the beginning cause you wont have all your favorite sites that popup as you type some letters off the url. But you will definately feel a huge difference in speed.

 

 

I use Opera too sometimes. It is better and faster. Just some things you miss

 

Stuart