I've just bought a zx300 tt.. so i'm new to this site....

I needed a radiator for my new car...so I tried a second hand place in Stockton on tees (Middlesborough) called JAP PARTS.. they quoted me £250, I then telephoned the nissan dealer and was quoted £271 for a brand new one....When I got the quote off the nissan dealer, I telephoned JAP PARTS back to explain how much nissan had quoted me, and I was told off the lad that owned the place..... "if people are daft enough to pay his prices he will continue selling them at these prices" So I thought I'd warn you's all of this company incase any of you's were thinking of buying something from there...... I've since getting my radiator repaired for £100.

car business is rife with cowboys

 

it's not only inspector plod and the government who slam the motorist

 

there should be more naming and shaming in here

When i first got my Zed tried the same people for a PTU and they wanted £175 and I got a similar reply as to why they were expensive. so bought one from the states in the end upgraded and cheaper.

 

Fred my advise if you need anything speak to the peeps on here most of them arn't to bad and are willing to help and advise where to get parts etc.

No there shouldn't, it causes too much grief and legal threats etc. Anything posted in that vein should be substantiated by facts and data, not hearsay, insults and insinuation.

 

 

Originally posted by Nelson MainFella

there should be more naming and shaming in here

Originally posted by AndyP

No there shouldn't, it causes too much grief and legal threats etc. Anything posted in that vein should be substantiated by facts and data, not hearsay, insults and insinuation.

 

Absolutely - you can get the message across simply by quoting FACTS - ie. price and item description and/or time to fit/repair etc.

 

Quote PRICES, TIMES, PICTURES only.

 

y not have a section for this ? It could also be used to give examples of reputable traders who provide competitively priced items/services.

 

Conclusion --------- > everyone benefits except dodgy/expensive traders; and they have no legal comeback as we just quote FACTS.

Tezza bought parts from these lot,guess what they were fooked and they would not give him a refund as they won't guarantee any parts they sell:confused:

 

How can people get away with this?

Didn't you start something like this on the old forum ?

 

Originally posted by Nelson MainFella

y not have a section for this ? It could also be used to give examples of reputable traders who provide competitively priced items/services.

 

Conclusion --------- > everyone benefits except dodgy/expensive traders; and they have no legal comeback as we just quote FACTS.

Its not worth it on the forum, it will cause more arguments to occur.

 

Set up an independant site if you want something like that is my suggestion.

there should be naming and shaming, they dont moderate any bad experiences on TTNET? they have never had lawsuits and all that crap every come to fruiton on that site?

so why not here, if someone has a bad experience why not let others know about it?

 

i had legal threats on here from TDI ect and Xoticar and what came of it nothing? because if they are in the wrong there is nto alot that can be done ect.

 

i think one case in the entire history of the internet has ever been won and everyone shits themselves, if somone has been treated unfairly of been hard done by it should be there right to say and have an oultet to name and shame, hell they do it on TV..

 

of course so long as its factual then you dont have a problem>

Originally posted by AndyP

Didn't you start something like this on the old forum ?

 

Kind of...I used the Price Checks section by posting categories

Originally posted by 300z

, if somone has been treated unfairly of been hard done by it should be there right to say and have an oultet to name and shame, hell they do it on TV..

 

 

 

---------------->TRUE - it's called Watchdog.;)

 

 

of course so long as its factual then you dont have a problem>

 

Correct

I can't say I agree with the naming and shaming on a public forum.

I think it would just cause confusion. I mean sometimes an excellent company can do 100 good jobs and then have a bad day and do 1 bad job.

If we had this naming and shaming, only 10% of the good jobs would get mentioned, but you can bet that the 1 bad job would get more attention.

 

Before I use a company for any work on my Z, I ask people on this forum for their views.

Originally posted by smw1

I can't say I agree with the naming and shaming on a public forum.

I think it would just cause confusion. I mean sometimes an excellent company can do 100 good jobs and then have a bad day and do 1 bad job.

If we had this naming and shaming, only 10% of the good jobs would get mentioned, but you can bet that the 1 bad job would get more attention.

 

Before I use a company for any work on my Z, I ask people on this forum for their views.

 

sorry but so the one person who gets the bad job is not entitled to voice his opinion? people should be able to make up there own mind on a situation. but if you dont present the info and if the company is excellent then they shouldent be doing a bad job should they?

 

thats like saying well errm ill only do a good job on some of the equipment i work on lol.

Companys should take responsiblity for errors they make ect and not get away with it full stop.

Originally posted by smw1

I can't say I agree with the naming and shaming on a public forum.

I think it would just cause confusion. I mean sometimes an excellent company can do 100 good jobs and then have a bad day and do 1 bad job.

If we had this naming and shaming, only 10% of the good jobs would get mentioned, but you can bet that the 1 bad job would get more attention.

 

Before I use a company for any work on my Z, I ask people on this forum for their views.

 

Good point, but I think it's a risk worth taking - when a bad job is posted, it's then down to other members to say "well they did my car fine Or similar using FACTS only" etc.

 

Another pitfall is that sometimes it's hard to say whether a mechanic/garage has damaged something or whether it was already damaged or 99% worn etc. before the mechanic worked on it.

 

But if ppl look at the bigger picture of either several good jobs or several balls-ups/rip-offs, then I don't see a problem. Simply make these points clear to everyone using the info and and ppl can then make more informed choices about who they throw hundreds (&sometimes thousands) of pounds at........

An "excellent" company would surely make good any "bad job" they had done. And if they didn't then I wouldn't risk using them, no matter how good the other 99 jobs were!

 

Naming and shaming would be tricky as people rarely stick to the facts though! And if you were p1ssed off with a certain company, it would be easy and tempting to exagerate any foul play.

 

I'm personally grateful that Fred posted this info.

 

Does that go into 3p's worth?

Originally posted by james300

 

Naming and shaming would be tricky as people rarely stick to the facts though! And if you were p1ssed off with a certain company, it would be easy and tempting to exagerate any foul play.

 

 

How about having the info. in a PRIVATE section available to moderators/members only. Only if the material entered was not litigious ? could it then be posted so everyone could see it.

 

Don't ppl have a right to say for eg. "I don't rate company X as giving good customer service/value for money" .........

 

but if they said "I think company X are con-merchants" or "company Y ripped me off" then it would be libellous ?

 

The guy on Watchdog doesn't pull his punches - how come he isn't sued all the time ?

watchdog act when they receive numerous complains, on an internet forum any one can say anything, watchdog also put their point across in fair way, on here we get "X, Y and Z are w*nkers ect, ect"

 

Why not just start a site dedicated to this where you can moderate complaints before they are added to the database.

I don't really think it warrants its own section tbh. (refering to Nelson's post)

 

As SMW1 said, just ask about if you're about to use a company you haven't used before. You will get feedback that way and then make your own mind up.

Originally posted by james300

 

As SMW1 said, just ask about if you're about to use a company you haven't used before. You will get feedback that way and then make your own mind up.

 

Just like a FAQ avoids the same questions repeatedly, a section about traders would be useful. How about, to avoid the problems highlighted above, we just post +ive feedback when a company has done a job - I know ppl often post this on a separate thread, but this gets lost and takes up too much ? bandwidth. If it was pooled, the numbers of satisfied customers would be clear.

 

Pooling and sorting info. is what sites like this need to make them so much better and useful IMHO.

On the face of it it's a good idea. However we all know it will end up being a great big slagging match between 'rival' members on this site, and we've got Fight Club already:D

 

The BBC have a rather large legal department full of lawyers, and a few hundred million pounds of my/your money to pay them with........

It would be nice to have a kind of voting system, where we could rate good and bad customer satisfaction against each company. That way it would be more balanced and give a more rounded view.

Hehe I can speak from experience on this one - naming and shaming does NOT work. The facts get twisted and even if it was the customers fault, it ALWAYS gets turned around on the company. EVEN THOUGH I am not a company I still got slated for something that was NOT my fault. Whoever that was - you know who you are, I haven't forgotten about it ;)

 

All IMHO of course :D

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

I personally agree with James and Warren. I think that even if a company has done 99 good jobs and 1 bad, then people should know and make up their own minds.

 

An example is PPS. They have done some very good work and no one has had a bad word to say about him. Personally I would never recomend him to anyone as I don't believe he could be bothered with my car the second time round. I may post about my experience with PPS, it all depends when I stop getting annoyed with the job he's done:mad:

 

Maybe it's just me and bodyshops...............................

 

Vijay

Originally posted by x-biker

On the face of it it's a good idea. However we all know it will end up being a great big slagging match between 'rival' members on this site, and we've got Fight Club already:D

 

The BBC have a rather large legal department full of lawyers, and a few hundred million pounds of my/your money to pay them with........

 

Quite right. Also, if we want to attract more traders to the forum - to help raise dosh and get a wider supply of services - having a section dedicated to naming and shaming is not going to help, exactly.

 

Just in case we forget, there is already a price check section so good value / expensive prices for parts can always be posted here. Just don't call the company a bunch of effing crooks as that might get you / the forum into trouble. :D

From a professional point of view I do not believe in naming and shaming, however we live in a free country and believe people are entitled to THEIR opinions. If people choose to share those opinions then that is their right. If people are going to critisise companies then they should state their story with the facts and leave it at that. We do not want the forum being lost because of people getting carried away with slanging matches about people sho may not be able to answer.

We are all intelligent people on this forum (I'm not sure about me though) capable of making our own minds up from other peoples opinions.

Long live the Forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul

(I will jump off my high horse now)

Thanks to all you's who have replied to my ad......this is a brilliant site......you's are all very friendly and helpful........ I agree that all bad car company's should be named and shamed, that was a great idea!!!

I live in the Newcastle upon tyne area....is anyone else in here close by to that area?????