****ing Shit Twating Bastard Crappy **** Tosser WINDOWS XP.

 

****ING HATE IT!

 

Doing fine working away doing my PHP Uni work. Turn the computer off. Go have a drink 30 mins later come back, turn it on, OS Currupt use recovery from XP disc. OK then did that selected recovery and I go into DOS, the worse version of DOS ever. No instructions on what to do, so I run a few fix things it has. Reboot the same currupt.

Went to Windows setup becuase it has the option to unstall over the top keeping your settings and documents.

 

NO. Windows XP doesnt allow that. Complete installation wiping away any old data. THE ONLY WINDOWS THAT DOES THAT THE ****ING TWATS!

 

I have a virus checker that updates every time I log on, which with broadband is every time I boot up, it runs a full check every day and I am really carful what emails I open. Its just ****ING XP!

 

I have had every other Windows OS all the way from Windows 3.1.1 and its never done this. XP this is the 3rd time its happened. WINKER. Lucky I bought another HDD a month ago and put 2000 on it so I can still access my data, but having trouble accessing my emails from XP where my passwords and server location for my files is held.

 

Soon as I get the time Im going to put Linux over it.

 

Sorry just has to moan about how ****ING SHIT XP is.

 

Stuart

Sorry mate, I hate all Windows OS's!!!

 

Unix, Linux or MAC OS X (based on Unix) is the way to go.

What virus checking software are you using? PC-cillin can cause all sorts of problems in XP. If you don't want to wipe your PC, use the roll-back function.

Originally posted by Timmy_Turbo

Sorry mate, I hate all Windows OS's!!!

 

Unix, Linux or MAC OS X (based on Unix) is the way to go.

 

I disagree, Windows brought PC's to the masses, something Unix failed to do time and time again.

 

It is complete 'Bloatware' though.

 

Mike

Errrh, anyone heard of CP/M? As available on zillions of PCWs for £299 way before Mr IBM introduced the PC.

 

Now for sure, Mr Gates and his spawn have crushed all the opposition - effectively - but why does it take me longer today to sit down, fire the computer up and start to write a document than it did on my trusty old PCW in 1980 whenever it was?

 

Everytime I install a new Windows (and I started at 3.0) the install procedure takes longer and is more complicated? And then the PC takes longer to start?

 

Bloody Microsoft......

 

And, while I come to think of it, it wasn't Microsoft who brought computing to the masses, it was the manufacturers who competed so fiercely that prices fell and PCs became more affordable. Microsoft had screwed the manufacturers into deals so that it effectively became the only OS offered.

 

Oh - and what about Sinclair? And Apple? And..... I'll stop now as I am starting to froth at the mouth which is a problem you youngsters will also get when you get to my advanced years. *cough* *dribble* chews on dentures and falls off chair

 

;) Gio

Have been using XP for about six months,never a problem,though it sure dont like software up to spec so to speak,thats most of were the problems occur,just my bit on the subject:D :cool:

Im with you Timmy, I may put Unix/Linux on my what is now my XP drive.

 

I know what you mean Gio, my old 386 used to take10 seconds to boot into DOS then another 15 seconds for it to load WIN fully.

 

Now with a computer that is over 150 time faster in CPU clock speed, Memory which is 50 times faster and I have 512 time more and HDD's which transfer 20 times faster, it still takes longer to boot up. Hmmm, progress do you say?

 

Oh yeah, Old DOS 8mb fully installed and windows 3.1 8mb fully installed. Windows XPdefault installation 1,600mb. And then over 200mb of updates.

 

Stuart

Feel sorry for ya chaps,from switch on to desktop takes around 30 seconds for me!:confused:

Oh my one used to take less than 30 seconds to boot. Then come all the updates and that makes it take longer, then Office, that makes it take longer, then other stuff and it takes longe and longer

Yes i give you that,can mount up,i try to keep it to a minimum,but its possible to get carried away,so if i dont use it much i unistall stuff,helps!;)

You're absolutely right - keep it clean and mean and it does get quicker to boot.

 

But it's my work machine. 1GHz Athlon, shedloads of RAM etc etc - so a good 6-month old spec. For all this to be slower at starting up (and no discernable working difference on Word, Excel etc) than the dx2/66 (66? 66MHz ffs!) I had all those years ago means someone has conned me into throwing loads of money away buying ever more powerful machines which bring me no discernable benefit to work tasks.

 

And they're noisier as well!

 

(Now - where did I put me old Speccy?)

Originally posted by Gio

Errrh, anyone heard of CP/M? As available on zillions of PCWs for £299 way before Mr IBM introduced the PC.

 

Now for sure, Mr Gates and his spawn have crushed all the opposition - effectively - but why does it take me longer today to sit down, fire the computer up and start to write a document than it did on my trusty old PCW in 1980 whenever it was?

 

Everytime I install a new Windows (and I started at 3.0) the install procedure takes longer and is more complicated? And then the PC takes longer to start?

 

Bloody Microsoft......

 

And, while I come to think of it, it wasn't Microsoft who brought computing to the masses, it was the manufacturers who competed so fiercely that prices fell and PCs became more affordable. Microsoft had screwed the manufacturers into deals so that it effectively became the only OS offered.

 

Oh - and what about Sinclair? And Apple? And..... I'll stop now as I am starting to froth at the mouth which is a problem you youngsters will also get when you get to my advanced years. *cough* *dribble* chews on dentures and falls off chair

 

;) Gio

 

 

You may say other O/S's are better / faster / cheaper, but nobody produced a complete package like Microsoft did; now I'm not saying they are the most ethical company in the world, what big business is? Most of the other manufacturers are just bummed out that they didn't do it first.

 

Do you believe that SUN, IBM, APPLE etc are in the business because they don’t want to make money?

 

The Windows OS's biggest strength is also its biggest weakness; it's the amount of different hardware it supports. It's very easy to write a perfect OS when you only have to run it on a limited amount of hardware.

 

Hey, if you just want a word processor, then buy an Appliance (Amstrad Style), oh no hang on, people want to do more than that from their computers. IF you want it to boot fast, try using DOS and EDIT :D.

 

Built correctly, Windows is perfectly reliable, but how often does that happen?

 

I believe UNIX may be the future, but currently they cannot compete with Windows for the desktop environment.

 

Computers to the Masses? What was running on all those PC's? It's the OS that produced the 'Computing experience' not the hardware (But lots of memory helps :p )

 

I still say it's complete and utter 'Bloatware' though.

 

Take it easy.

 

Mike

Mike, I'm not disagreeing with you - whether I like it or not, Windows is running on 90% of the typical domestic PCs.

 

But there was a time before Microsoft achieved its dominance - and there were millions of personal computers in millions of homes across the world before DOS.

 

ZX-80, ZX81, Spectrum, Amstrad PCW, Apple and many others I am sure.

 

I think my point was that it wasn't MS who brought it to millions - it was many others. Now, of course, millions have to have MS whether they like it or not.

 

Oh and one last point - the PCW (while conceived and sold as a dedicated WP) actually came with a copy of CP/M and Logo so was not only a dedicated WP but also could be used as a "proper" computer. I wrote my first database using dbIV (I think - something from Ashton-Tate anyway) running under CP/M on a PCW. So buy a WP and get a free PC! All for £299.99

 

Cheers - Gio

Originally posted by Gio

You're absolutely right - keep it clean and mean and it does get quicker to boot.

 

 

I can understand what you mean how ever its not that easy. As we all know the registry holds loads of information for Windows from menu order to program setup and cache settings, and every time you turn on your computer it goes through the regiesty bit by bit applying all the settings.

A fresh installation of 98 the registry is just over 1mb. My friend showed my his registry after 1 year of use and its was 17mb. Yes he had a few things installed, but Windows keeps adding to it and not removing it. Thats why the computer seems to take longer to boot up.

 

Like now I had XP on with all the updates and all my stuff installed. When I got a new HDD I put Win2000 on and just installed the drivers and windows updates. I am now running Win2000 and the internet is running a hell of a lot better. On the forum pages where not finnished downloading sometimes by the time I finished typing. But now every thing loads in less than a second. Why? Whats the difference? I dont mess around with Internet settings, plus there aren't that many with broadband you can change. XP is supposed to be better at the internet so why is 2000 running much better?

 

Microsoft in a way have helped the computer world a great deal. Before Win95 people would run when they saw

C:\> on a black screen.

 

Stuart

c:\ was Bill's too :D

 

Mike

Originally posted by Gio

Mike, I'm not disagreeing with you - whether I like it or not, Windows is running on 90% of the typical domestic PCs.

 

But there was a time before Microsoft achieved its dominance - and there were millions of personal computers in millions of homes across the world before DOS.

 

ZX-80, ZX81, Spectrum, Amstrad PCW, Apple and many others I am sure.

 

I think my point was that it wasn't MS who brought it to millions - it was many others. Now, of course, millions have to have MS whether they like it or not.

 

Oh and one last point - the PCW (while conceived and sold as a dedicated WP) actually came with a copy of CP/M and Logo so was not only a dedicated WP but also could be used as a "proper" computer. I wrote my first database using dbIV (I think - something from Ashton-Tate anyway) running under CP/M on a PCW. So buy a WP and get a free PC! All for £299.99

 

Cheers - Gio

 

Fair point, I'm used to PC's meaning IBM PC's (PS/2 etc) and not 'Personal Computer' I too used to own a ZX81 (with the tape holding on the 16K ram pack!)

 

The one thing that pi$$es me off, is the way that people continually slag off Micro$oft like it's going out of fashion. Do I think Microsoft write the best products? No Way! But they have done as much good as they have bad, and hey, it all works together.

 

People never want to see the positive, only the negative.

 

And hey, if it all worked perfectly, I’d be out of a Job :D:D

 

Mike

Originally posted by Herman Munster

And hey, if it all worked perfectly, I’d be out of a Job :D:D

 

Mike

 

hehehe

 

And jeezus wasn't getting the cassette playing just right a PITA? Quite apart from the bloody RAM pack. Still - the good old days of getting a WP and documents in less than 16k!!!

 

The major problem with MS is that ...... naah - that's too serious for this time of night :)

 

Time for some red wine I think - while I hit some more html with a blunt instrument!

 

Cheers all - Gio

Hey Gio,

 

It's red wine time with me too ... perhaps there is something in this alter-ego after all!

 

CheerZ,

John.

lol yeah go for linux if you have a good knowledge of computers, but ALL of your knowledge of windows will be irrelevant. But one thing about linux is once you set it up it wont let you down, ive had a machine running redhat 8 for a few months now and its never crashed. As a desktop OS though windows really does take the crown, ive tried all of the window managers for X windows and none of them are anywhere near windows for ease of use. One thing you will find is there isnt a web browser for linux that will display a web page properly, the text will always be too small or too big or something.

Ive heard a lot of things about mac's latest offering being EXCELLENT though, but then you have to buy a mac to use it ;)

 

Windows is a bit of a joke though, we have a NT4 network at school with about 100 stations and every day you go in the PC you boot up is broken, they seem to have a tendency to screw up some dll files required to boot, the NTFS drivers, and quite often they totally drop the network connection and run as a standalone, rediculous things. The NT4 servers arent much better either, they use microsoft proxy with this stupid igear cgi filtering thing and thats forever crashing. I run squid on my linux system and its always run spot on and ive not even thought about doing anything to it since i configured it, its just so reliable theres no need to maintain it.

 

Anyway, enough of M$ flaming ;) I guess our zeds are bit like microsoft, breaking down randomly and costing a lot of money ;)

I'm still waiting for the day when they fit Ctrl Alt & Delete keys on car steering wheels :D

 

oh, & I found a couple of beer mats under the 16k expansion pack used to work a treat :D :cool:

On the original point;

 

Try changing the RAM Stuart, Windows XP is far more RAM critical than say Windows 98 or ME. Win9x will happily run on a bad RAM stick where WinXP will start giving IRQ_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL's and other such terminal nastys :(

 

If Windows XP is lunching itself regularly on a machine it is invariably caused by a Hardware intolerance.

 

If you PM me with any error messages you have been receiving I can probably try and help.

 

:)

I was actually thinking bad RAM.

 

The error message I am getting something like

Windows XP cant boot up currupt or missing file at

C:\windows\system\config

 

 

Stuart

try:

 

Going into BIOS

Loading 'Failsafe Settings'

 

Format

 

Reload

 

If you still get screens of death, then start swapping them components out.

 

Remove all except RAM, VGA, HDD, CPU, COOLER, MOBO (natch) and CDROM

Then swap out if errors still occuring

RAM first, then VGA, CPU, then- eek, mobo

 

It'll be hardware related mate, and prolly memory at that.

yeah ive had the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL's before, turned out it was the RAM.

Its not the screen of death that I am getting. Its doesnt get that far. My PC comes on finds CD's and HDD's, I get a screen for the dual boot, thank god cos it saved my life. I select XP and almost stright away get the error saying Windows cant start, missing or currput file in

\windows\system32\config\system

 

I have removed my memory too.

It is strange cos it worked fine all day. I turned it off for about 10 mins and when I came back it wouldnt boot.

 

 

Thanks for you help anyways.

 

Stuart

Yeah, but that's only because most web servers are now IIS and M$ f*cked with the alleged 'standards' ! :mad:

 

Originally posted by Clarkey

lol One thing you will find is there isnt a web browser for linux that will display a web page properly, the text will always be too small or too big or something.