As some of you know on Sunday I was banned for life from zxclub which is run by Hollowpoint, Sexycrayola and Tonyb.

To say that I am angry about how I was banned would be an understatment as I am livid at my treatment.

I would like to take this opportunity to clear my name as I feel my reputation in the 300zx scene has been damaged by these three people.

 

Back in November it was asked by ZX-TT (Craig) about the opportunity to have joint meets with zxclub I said that I would see how the new club performed and in PM's I gave Craig my username and said I would log on to the new site and make a report but it would be a decision ultimately for the committee here.

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?156056-Club-talk

 

Christmas and the New Year came and went and after watching all the difficulties within the zxclub I made my report which said that Alex and Rose had did a great job designing the new site and congratulated them on it but there managment skill's were lacking.(I based this on the way they talk to people and treat members who see things different and the way they keep changing there managment structure and going against there own rules)

I aso said the post by there Chairman (Tonyb) saying all moderators from here .co.uk should be banned from the new club was wrong.

So I wished them all the best in the future but at this point in time I could not see advertising events on each other's sites would be happening.

 

My thread was then removed so I asked were it had gone and was told by Rose to shut up and let them examine it and maybe it would be put up again!

 

So after a while my thread was put in a section called "Abuse from .co.uk" I then got a post from Hollowpoint where I was sworen at and told I was getting a permanent ban.

 

I concider myself to be a great fan of the 300zx and my reputation on the 300zx scene is important to me so to be invited to come into a new club and then they ban you is just a bloody joke. I know a lot of members here are also members with zxclub and I have no difficulites with that I also have no difficulites with Hollowpoint, Sexycrayola and Tonyb being members here they are not banned and will be not banned for there treatment of me as they have not broken any of our rules but I would also like to point out that when you do break the rules you get a 7 day ban and come back not a lifetime ban which I have been given by them.

 

So to sum up I am not very happy and wish all members here to know how I feel and I would encourage feed back from you to see if I have got this whole situation wrong or have I been shafted:mad2:

Edited February 20, 201213 yr by Gaz 300
adding link

As has been said before I think this is all getting out of hand. I personally don't see anything to warrant a pernament ban to you yourself but I do see others that are making the link between the 2 sites difficult.

 

There is also the fact that there is a lot that people don't get to see and a lot that when questions arise answers are not given on some sort of basis which can be annoying.

 

I would like to see it all sorted but I think it is a long way off with personality clashes.

Bloody hell I have a weekend doing DIY away from the forums and all goes to pot ????????

As has been said before I think this is all getting out of hand. I personally don't see anything to warrant a pernament ban to you yourself but I do see others that are making the link between the 2 sites difficult.

 

There is also the fact that there is a lot that people don't get to see and a lot that when questions arise answers are not given on some sort of basis which can be annoying.

 

I would like to see it all sorted but I think it is a long way off with personality clashes.

 

I would like to see it sorted to but is this the way forward?

Bloody hell I have a weekend doing DIY away from the forums and all goes to pot ????????

 

Hi Craig are you still a REO for zxclub? there has been a lot of changes over there and I could not find you.

Edited February 20, 201213 yr by Gaz 300

I have no idea tbh fella, Due to all the bickering im just staying out of all of it, and tbh not been posting much on either site anymore. Im keeping my opinions to myself, and just staying out of it.

 

I love the 300 scene and some great beople on both sites, but why we cant just all get along is behond me.

 

Decided ill just offer advice when I can be of help as for the politics on either site i want nothing to do with it anymore.

 

just being friendly and playing nice these days

 

Sorry to hear what happend though.

I love the 300 scene and some great people on both sites, but why we cant just all get along is beyond me.........

 

just being friendly and playing nice these days

 

 

Well said mate. :thumbup:

this saddens me to read, surely we can all get along? the folk i have encountered on this site are the nicest bunch of helpful people you could ever wish to meet, not having used the other site for more than a few minutes i cant really comment on any of the members there, but i would like to think they are the same as we have here; Honest, friendly and mad on the Z breed. peace out!

I have no idea tbh fella, Due to all the bickering im just staying out of all of it, and tbh not been posting much on either site anymore. Im keeping my opinions to myself, and just staying out of it.

 

I love the 300 scene and some great beople on both sites, but why we cant just all get along is behond me.

 

Decided ill just offer advice when I can be of help as for the politics on either site i want nothing to do with it anymore.

 

just being friendly and playing nice these days

 

Sorry to hear what happend though.

 

Ok mate and thanks for the feedback in future I will just stay on this site (not that I have a choice anymore)

Well said mate. :thumbup:

 

Yea well said.

this saddens me to read, surely we can all get along? the folk i have encountered on this site are the nicest bunch of helpful people you could ever wish to meet, not having used the other site for more than a few minutes i cant really comment on any of the members there, but i would like to think they are the same as we have here; Honest, friendly and mad on the Z breed. peace out!

 

I made the mistake of thinking they were the same as us but I was wrong.

Sad to see this Gary, surely a permanent ban would have gone to a committee vote? It seems that the decision has been made by certain individuals on a personal vendetta, which is a shame really. Its fair to say that another club started up, born out of frustration, by a few members with the way they think, this club is run, but a club cannot be run by one person alone and has to have rules and moderation to survive and retain a happy medium for the longevity of the club.

 

Sometimes there is no reasoning with people who have a myopic view on life and have to have things their way and the last say.

 

Like many of us that know you Gary, your reputation is intact as far as we are concerned and best now concentrate on moving forward with our own club.

 

Graham

Sad to see this Gary, surely a permanent ban would have gone to a committee vote? It seems that the decision has been made by certain individuals on a personal vendetta, which is a shame really. Its fair to say that another club started up, born out of frustration, by a few members with the way they think, this club is run, but a club cannot be run by one person alone and has to have rules and moderation to survive and retain a happy medium for the longevity of the club.

 

Sometimes there is no reasoning with people who have a myopic view on life and have to have things their way and the last say.

 

Like many of us that know you Gary, your reputation is intact as far as we are concerned and best now concentrate on moving forward with our own club.

 

Graham

 

Thanks Graham, having never been banned or been given an infraction in my life I found it a total shock and hope members here who know me know that I am not a trouble maker or go out of my way to cause trouble I was invited into that club and then kicked out in a very aggressive way.Appreciate your feed back mate.

Well I won't post anything because it will on flare up again

 

When you first came on you were made welcome..... just don't forget that

Well I won't post anything because it will on flare up again

 

When you first came on you were made welcome..... just don't forget that

 

Thanks Tony.

Just because you all own the same Car does not mean that you will all get along or have the same Opinion or belief. We get criticised on here for over Moderation etc, but as an Official Club the Committee and Moderators have to take whatever steps necessary to keep the club running smoothly and harmoniously. No one person on the Committee or Moderation team takes a sole decision to Ban or chastise a member without it being discussed or voted on accordingly. I'm so pleased that our special relationship with ZClub is back and here to stay. but I can never ever see such a relationship happening between us and ZXClub. this is down to the fact that, the site was set up (Originally) so that Disgruntled members from here that did not agree nor like the way this club is run or Moderated could have their own way and Say or post whatever they like without being chastised for it. this occasionally turns into a lets slag .co.uk fest, which we are fine with, if not then we would have removed the main offenders from this club. alas...though under a new name and management that site seems to continue to be run in the same fashion, with a continued dislike for our committee and Moderators , and the way our Club is run. well if that helps you sleep better at night then hey ho. The committee do not want to see this thread turn into a Slanging contest between .co.uk Vs ZxClub. if it goes that way, then Gaz with remove the Thread himself. Gaz felt Angry for the way he had been treated and wanted to post his side of the story which is fine, and I hope the People in charge of ZXClub do Gaz the same courtesy in responding in a calm and responsible way.

Edited February 20, 201213 yr by KIM

Oh dear! I see the inter-forum mud slinging contest is still ripe :thumbdown:

foeum politics is childish and immature imho, its some lines of text on a screen ffs! The problem is people behind computers giving it the big i am.. Over moderation and power trips is why forums have gone downhill rapidly. in short its just pathetic....

Oh dear! I see the inter-forum mud slinging contest is still ripe :thumbdown:

 

No not what I want Joely I just want positive or negitive feed back fella.

foeum politics is childish and immature imho, its some lines of text on a screen ffs! The problem is people behind computers giving it the big i am.. Over moderation and power trips is why forums have gone downhill rapidly. in short its just pathetic....

 

I would agree with that Eddie.

As someone who has looked in on most of the threads that seem (at least on the outside) to have caused all this trouble I am just in total disbelief. I haven't met you Gary, but I like you, if that makes sense. I am sure there are many many members with a similar view.

I try not to get involved in these type of threads as it can appear you are 'taking sides'. I'm not on anyone's side, I frequent both sites as a matter of course, and as you say, why shouldn't I?

It's just my opinion but it seems there is a personality clash between certain individuals/mods on the two sites. Whether this would be the same in person as opposed to via a keyboard i'm not sure.

On here as in life I pretty much get on with everybody, so it saddens me a little that people just can't get along. I am left shaking my head in utter bewildermeant at some of the 'conversations' that have been had on the two sites in recent times.

 

But there comes a point when sometimes you just have to hold up your hands and concede "It just ain't gonna happen!!"

 

I wish all of you involved, but especially you Gary as it's your post, the very best. Sometimes it's easier said than done, but try and rise above it all. :yinyang:

Well said Daffy

 

As I said, I will not put the other side of the story to save inflaming things further.

 

Suffice to say Gary has his view, we have ours

 

Now let's put it all behind us and all get on with what the sites are about - ZEDS !

As someone who has looked in on most of the threads that seem (at least on the outside) to have caused all this trouble I am just in total disbelief. I haven't met you Gary, but I like you, if that makes sense. I am sure there are many many members with a similar view.

I try not to get involved in these type of threads as it can appear you are 'taking sides'. I'm not on anyone's side, I frequent both sites as a matter of course, and as you say, why shouldn't I?

It's just my opinion but it seems there is a personality clash between certain individuals/mods on the two sites. Whether this would be the same in person as opposed to via a keyboard i'm not sure.

On here as in life I pretty much get on with everybody, so it saddens me a little that people just can't get along. I am left shaking my head in utter bewildermeant at some of the 'conversations' that have been had on the two sites in recent times.

 

But there comes a point when sometimes you just have to hold up your hands and concede "It just ain't gonna happen!!"

 

I wish all of you involved, but especially you Gary as it's your post, the very best. Sometimes it's easier said than done, but try and rise above it all. :yinyang:

 

Thanks for your feedback Daffy, being a moderator means that sometimes you step on people's toe's and they can turn against you its part and parcel of the job but as long as you are fair which I think I am you should still be able to get on with everbody.

Well said Daffy

 

As I said, I will not put the other side of the story to save inflaming things further.

 

Suffice to say Gary has his view, we have ours

 

Now let's put it all behind us and all get on with what the sites are about - ZEDS !

 

 

As Chairman of zxclub can you explain why I got a lifetime ban after being invited into the club and why I was sworen at by Hollowpoint when giving the ban please.

As someone who has looked in on most of the threads that seem (at least on the outside) to have caused all this trouble I am just in total disbelief. I haven't met you Gary, but I like you, if that makes sense. I am sure there are many many members with a similar view.

I try not to get involved in these type of threads as it can appear you are 'taking sides'. I'm not on anyone's side, I frequent both sites as a matter of course, and as you say, why shouldn't I?

It's just my opinion but it seems there is a personality clash between certain individuals/mods on the two sites. Whether this would be the same in person as opposed to via a keyboard i'm not sure.

On here as in life I pretty much get on with everybody, so it saddens me a little that people just can't get along. I am left shaking my head in utter bewildermeant at some of the 'conversations' that have been had on the two sites in recent times.

 

But there comes a point when sometimes you just have to hold up your hands and concede "It just ain't gonna happen!!"

 

I wish all of you involved, but especially you Gary as it's your post, the very best. Sometimes it's easier said than done, but try and rise above it all. :yinyang:

 

+1 mate :clap:

smithy

I dont really know the ins and out. Speaking as someone who aint involved and has no interest in being involved, all the bickering is a bit boring/annoying.

 

There are as many bickering posts as their are 300zx related posts. Move on guys, or pick up the phone and sort it out.