Can any of you recommend a decent protein supplement? I am making a concerted effort to get fitter and stronger at the moment. Doing okay too. Gone from 13.7 stone to 12.5 and cut my body fat by 4% in 4 weeks since joining a gym.

Anyhow, being vegetarian my diet lacks protein so looking for a decent one that you have found to be of benefit. I have flirted with eating chicken but just can't get on with it tbh.

Any links really appreciated. Thanks.

I'm going the opposite way to you and I use this

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USN-Muscle-Fuel-Anabolic-All-One-4kg-4000g-SHAKER-/330575546014?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Vitamins_Supplements&var=&hash=item7dbcbde60d

 

 

 

 

in conjunction with this which is import only

 

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400268547207?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

 

 

but you'll be wanting a 'low carb' decent whey protein formula, so stay away from the nasty cheap rubbish and read the labels before buying

 

 

CNP Professional is very good and used by a lot of athletes across a wide spectrum of disciplines, they offer some really good whey protein options that might not be as colourful as other brands but are in fact much better

 

 

Check this out for info:

 

http://www.cnpprofessional.co.uk/

I use impact whey isolate from myprotein very good stuff mixes well and tastes better then most I have tried

Here you go

 

http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/impact_whey_isolate

I use reflex brand at the moment I think it is really good but I have used PhD stuff before which is equally as good both found on eBay. Sounds like you have a good program going on though daffy just keep switching it about to keep the muscles surprised. If you need any energy stuff anytime eca is awesome ephedrine you can't beat it :)

phd and reflex are both excellent imo. you can usually find reflex at a lower price than phd too. even though the results are the same. if you also research all foods you'll actually find that you can obtain a better protien diet as a veggy. knowledge is power! keep it up mate.

percentage wise, cooked Pasta(depending on which wheat) is what, 7-8% protein. Thats plenty.. and its the type that does not stick around and keep you erhumm 'warm'

Avoid rice tho.. not enough... beware of which types of protein you consume tho matey.. protein OD ( again talking % of food intake)makes you constipated..

I'm sure we are all rooting for ya &of course, easiest way to lose weight is to knock alcohol on the head!

Thanks a lot guys. I was thinking of trying the phd diet whey. I don't actually want to get any lighter but am assured once i get the body fat down I can then start to bulk up a bit. Does this sound right? If i didn't drink at weekends all would be good lol.

I have also come to realise that the body actually needs rest days. I'm a bit of an addictive type and was wanting to train every day but had to slow down a bit!!

I'm trying to vary it up with circuits, kettle bells and Vipr training along with cardio and resistance stuff too. Just need to stick with it.

The best (and I've tried them all) in respect of price, quality, and ease of use is Syntha 6 and can be got fairly cheaply if you browse. Just be aware of the different size tubs so you don't buy the 1 kg tub go for the 2.2 tub.

 

Being a vegetarian can be difficult but shouldn't stop you achieving your aims however if you are a proper veggie (don't eat fish) then you have to be cautious of high GI foods like pasta and bread etc which can lead to high bodyfat levels.

 

You don't have to lose bodyfat to create muscle. The more muscle you build will burn the fat off quicker anyway.

 

It's a complex subject and you'll get lot's of conflicting advice but here's mine :) Go and buy any muscle or fitness magazine and pick any training programme it really doesn't matter which one. Follow it 'properly' for a month then go buy another mag and pick a new one. You could do the same with diet but in simple terms eat less calories than you burn and lose weight, eat more than you burn put on weight.

 

By the way I've been a vegetarian for nearly thirty years in which time I've competed on a national level and I worked in strength and fitness for 15 years.

Thanks Bob. I am a proper veggie. Never eaten fish, and like i say only recently tried eating meat but just can't get my head round it. Just not for me. I'll have a search for that syntha 6. Appreciate the advice and encouragement. I need to remember to be realistic and not expect instant changes I guess.

Thanks Bob. I am a proper veggie. Never eaten fish, and like i say only recently tried eating meat but just can't get my head round it. Just not for me. I'll have a search for that syntha 6. Appreciate the advice and encouragement. I need to remember to be realistic and not expect instant changes I guess.

 

Well if you were a fish eater losing weight would be easy :) Syntha 6 cookies and cream or vanilla are the best. Dietwise, you might try to follow a low GI diet similar to what diabetics have to follow. Lack of meat means you won't be getting much in the way of creatine so you would be advised to supplement with that. In fact I just get basic powder and mix it with my MRP after training. Have fun!!

Is this the stuff Bob?

 

https://www.mutantnutrition.com/bsn-syntha-6-2-2kg.html

 

I feel loads better all ready, i'm generally 'happier' and my sleep is improving too. Which having suffered from insomnia for years is nothing but a good thing. One of the guys I know swears by creatine so i'll get some of that too :cool2:

Well if you were a fish eater losing weight would be easy :) Syntha 6 cookies and cream or vanilla are the best. Dietwise, you might try to follow a low GI diet similar to what diabetics have to follow. Lack of meat means you won't be getting much in the way of creatine so you would be advised to supplement with that. In fact I just get basic powder and mix it with my MRP after training. Have fun!!

 

 

Enjoying whatever training you are undertaking is one of the most important factors that many individuals forget to ensure at the early stages. You only have to look at the number of new gym members in early January and then compare that with the number who are still there in March.

 

Above all alse I would suggest that booking a one to one with a personal trainer/coach would be extremely beneficial at this stage. He/she will be in a better position to help you understand exactly what your goals are and then will be able to formulate a bespoke training programme that will help you achieve those goals.

Advice on forums is always very useful but in order to give you the best chance of achieving your goals and avoiding unnecessary injury, a half hour chat with a personal trainer/coach will pay dividends as they will then be able to formulate a bespoke training and dietry programme tailored specifically for you, they will then be able to monitor your progress and advise accordingly

Is this the stuff Bob?

 

https://www.mutantnutrition.com/bsn-syntha-6-2-2kg.html

 

I feel loads better all ready, i'm generally 'happier' and my sleep is improving too. Which having suffered from insomnia for years is nothing but a good thing. One of the guys I know swears by creatine so i'll get some of that too :cool2:

 

That's the one and not a bad price either. Creatine is OK just don't expect miracles coz if it was that good they'd ban it lol. You need water but if you drink some during your workout then use some to mix up your MRP that'll be plenty. Now I'm off to the gym myself :)

extremee nutrition do the best deals, and havve the best tasting mass builder which u gain mass no fat, it also has strawerry bits.

 

you should try there stack 60 pounds and consists of whey, aa tub for after training, and one for night time, simples, 3 meals shakes and your good to go.

extremee nutrition do the best deals, and havve the best tasting mass builder which u gain mass no fat, it also has strawerry bits.

 

you should try there stack 60 pounds and consists of whey, aa tub for after training, and one for night time, simples, 3 meals shakes and your good to go.

 

but why would he want to gain mass mate, if his intention is to lose weight?

Thanks again guys for all your advice and input. Much appreciated :yes:

I am lucky in that a freind of mine is a qualified PT and the reason I joined that particular gym even though it was way more expensive than other local ones. I try and train around his availability so essentially get free one on one. He sees me as a bit of a 'project' lol so hopefully I can maintain my motivation. I am going skiing on saturday so had that to aim for. We'll be setting some new goals when i'm back.

 

Thanks again, Daffy.

Had my weigh in today. Just under 6 weeks since I joined the gym and pre skiing target was to lose 4% bodyfat. Ended up going from 23% to 17.5%. So cut by 6.5% in that 6 week period. To say I am pleased is an understatement. Self praise is no praise but I am well chuffed.

Keep it up mate

That is excellent Daffy keep it up and you will be on Mr Universe in a few months :lol:

I'm a bit of a Fitness junkie nowadays, I do the lot, Cycling/Running & Weights. I was advised very strongly by my Doctor and dietician to avoid Protein Supplements, as they can be very bad for you. I get all my protein for training naturally, by eating foods such as Lean red meat/beans/eggs/fish etc etc. it's not difficult to get the right amount of protein by eating a healthy balanced diet.

 

Kim

Had my weigh in today. Just under 6 weeks since I joined the gym and pre skiing target was to lose 4% bodyfat. Ended up going from 23% to 17.5%. So cut by 6.5% in that 6 week period. To say I am pleased is an understatement. Self praise is no praise but I am well chuffed.

Brill mate, well done.

I'm a bit of a Fitness junkie nowadays, I do the lot, Cycling/Running & Weights. I was advised very strongly by my Doctor and dietician to avoid Protein Supplements, as they can be very bad for you. I get all my protein for training naturally, by eating foods such as Lean red meat/beans/eggs/fish etc etc. it's not difficult to get the right amount of protein by eating a healthy balanced diet.

 

Kim

 

 

I'd like to sit down and speak with your doctor and dietician and ask them to explain their reasoning on that one to me. Especially when considering that a good protein supplement is exactly that, a means of getting additional 'good' protein into your body on top of the regular sources that you aquire through a well balanced diet. A good whey protein powder will aid in recovery and is vital to any nutrition programme if undertaking a from of activity/exercise that places increased amounts of strain on the bodies recovery abilities.

 

If your training programme was relatively tame (ie. a half hour bimble around the block) then yes, protein supplements are pretty pointless as you'll recieve all that you require from a well balanced diet, however if you are undertaking more intensive training then additional porotein that is easily absorbed into your body is an essential part of recovery.

 

If you're cycling/swimming for long periods then I would suggest that your body needs more, and you will not want the added side effects of getting the additional protein from 'upping' your regular food intake due to the unwanted additional fats etc.

 

If you want a second opinion, drop this guy and email, he's my personal trainer and from the same background as myself so we're already singing off the same song sheet.

 

Lindsey Bruce Bruce IFBB bodybuilder/owner of Pyramid Fitness

 

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/lindsay-bruce/b/b58/90

 

 

http://www.pyramidfitness-hereford.co.uk/

Edited February 26, 201213 yr by jap.slapper

I'd like to sit down and speak with your doctor and dietician and ask them to explain their reasoning on that one to me. Especially when considering that a good protein supplement is exactly that, a means of getting additional 'good' protein into your body on top of the regular sources that you aquire through a well balanced diet. A good whey protein powder will aid in recovery and is vital to any nutrition programme if undertaking a from of activity/exercise that places increased amounts of strain on the bodies recovery abilities.

 

If your training programme was relatively tame (ie. a half hour bimble around the block) then yes, protein supplements are pretty pointless as you'll recieve all that you require from a well balanced diet, however if you are undertaking more intensive training then additional porotein that is easily absorbed into your body is an essential part of recovery.

 

If you're cycling/swimming for long periods then I would suggest that your body needs more, and you will not want the added side effects of getting the additional protein from 'upping' your regular food intake due to the unwanted additional fats etc.

 

If you want a second opinion, drop this guy and email, he's my personal trainer and from the same background as myself so we're already singing off the same song sheet.

 

Lindsey Bruce Bruce IFBB bodybuilder/owner of Pyramid Fitness

 

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/lindsay-bruce/b/b58/90

 

 

http://www.pyramidfitness-hereford.co.uk/

I think what it boils down to is that everyones different. I personally feel that I get enough protein without taking supplements. I do large amounts of fitness. Yesterday I went for a 102 mile cycle and had more than enough energy and stamina. I'm not saying personally that Protein supplements is a bad thing. I have a friend who has been body building for 30 years and drinks protein shakes daily. I can understand that with body building. but for me personally, I really dont see the need.

I believe it is the usual thing that everyone has their own different view and theories which is readily seen with regards to doctors and people in the health profession. They may have good theories and even evidence but to totally write off someone elses view is just obtuse. If i listened to the doctor with their cautious approach to my injury i wouldnt be at the level i am at now. It is worth doing your own research and gaining a few different views as the majority of people are swayed by what another person has told them as they value that judgement even doctors. Not always right though :)

 

Marty