http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8871437/M5-crash-several-feared-dead-in-worst-ever-crash-in-Somerset.html

 

This kind of makes me glad we don't do the Bristol/Taunton drops anymore.

 

 

R.I.P to those poor souls that didn't make it :angel: :angel:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8871437/M5-crash-several-feared-dead-in-worst-ever-crash-in-Somerset.html

 

This kind of makes me glad we don't do the Bristol/Taunton drops anymore.

 

 

R.I.P to those poor souls that didn't make it :angel: :angel:

 

yea i seen it on the news mate, i have to go down that area Sunday as well, looks like thats cancelled! Yowser has said that the roads near him are packed and the motorway is at a gridlock!

just outside my house :(

RIP those that were killed, seen things like this too many times.....The silly thing about accidents like this is that in the fog, emergency vehicles responding to the accident driving to the conditions are overtaken by idiots, what do they think the emergency vehicles are on their way to?

RIP to the innocent drivers caught up in catastrophe... all it takes is one idiot who seems to think you can drive normally in rain and fog and it ends up in carnage :(

that looks horrible :( the phrase 'life-changing injuries' sends a shiver up my spine. RIP to those that lost their lives and my thoughts to those who suffered terrible injuries

that looks horrible :( the phrase 'life-changing injuries' sends a shiver up my spine. RIP to those that lost their lives and my thoughts to those who suffered terrible injuries

 

Watched the video footage this moring... Looks horendous, total chaos.... Yeah I thought the same when I read about 'life changing injuries' makes me think of some poor souls might have lost limbs etc.... RIP to all those involved who where just trying to get to wherever they we're going...

Well i was at Gloucester and Hereford last night and will be back there tonight, But between the air baloon round-a-bout and the frogmill i had about 6feet of visibility.

 

I used to do the bristol and taunton run but after yesterdays incident i'm glad i don't anymore. Already had 1 guy die on me this year and certainly don't want anymore!

On the news sites there are already plenty of people blaming it all on the lorry drivers saying that they should be restricted to 40mph. What they don't seem to understand is the lorries are maxed out at 56mph and it's the cars that are belting along the motorway at 80mph in the fog.

I had 6ft visability last night on a country lane and still some burk in an Audi overtook me doing about 70mph.

 

Somebody even had the nerve to say it was an unavoidable accident.

Of course it was avoidable, It's called driving to the condition of the road and surroundings.

On the news sites there are already plenty of people blaming it all on the lorry drivers saying that they should be restricted to 40mph. What they don't seem to understand is the lorries are maxed out at 56mph and it's the cars that are belting along the motorway at 80mph in the fog.

I had 6ft visability last night on a country lane and still some burk in an Audi overtook me doing about 70mph.

 

Somebody even had the nerve to say it was an unavoidable accident.

Of course it was avoidable, It's called driving to the condition of the road and surroundings.

 

Not all lorry drivers have your sensibility mate. I do a lot of miles and the biggest danger to me is the lorry drivers who think they are safe and put my life in danger..

 

I'm a great believer in appropriate speed, 20 mph past schools and estates you know kids are playing, slowing down appropriately in the snow, fog and rain.

 

dont what the answer is, but it is down to education. My father is a driving instructor and he genuinely believes having to drive at night, in rain, on motorways should be part of the learning curve. you pass your test and believe you can drive. You dont start learning until you pass your test. as a lorry driver how many people sit in the middle lane doing 50mph. must frustrate you?

 

The worst thing about it is, its the innocent people who always seem to be injured by the the burks you talk about..

 

Really hits home when you see something like that.

It will never come in to force as it will be unpopular for any government but passing your test at 17 and 3 months like I did and then no other test or freshener course until I am 70 is just plain wrong, if not a reckless policy.

 

Driving to me is easy , any conditions does not phase me but to some they find it difficult, uncomfortable with it in fact, how some pass their test is beyond me :no:

 

The public should have to take their test every 10 years, just a quick competent one is all we need and must include some motorway driving, an examiner just needs 15 mins with you, sure this will remove 5% at least of drivers and will ensure they have to undergo some instruction to be competent and to pass once more.

 

Looking at the M5 footage, I am going to say that a vehicle or vehicles joining the motorway as caused this. Often they fly up these sliproads and bully their way in causing folk to brake, 'I must get in the 3rd lane as quick as possible mentality'.

This is terrible and I agree with lots of what's been said. I certainly think the driving test should incorporate motorway driving, it's COMPLETELY different to town driving. Easier in many ways but far more dangerous and requires completely different reflexes and thought process when driving.

 

I had to drive from Epsom to Doncaster yesterday because my father was having complications after his hip surgery and I didn't want to be 200 miles away, I was desperate to get home and when I set out, the visibility on the M25 couldn't have been more than 10 feet, people (Mostly Audi and Mercedes I have to say) were STILL Flying past me at 100mph, and I was sat there thinking, my father is in hospital and could be dying, yet I'm driving to the conditions, what ON EARTH could be in the back of these muppets minds, that's SO important they will drive like this? I have come to the simple conclusion that they are inbred idiots with too much money and no amount of driving tests, fines, infarctions or penalties will make them intelligent.

 

RIP to those who died in this crash and those who have serious injuries, it's just such a shame the complete ****ERS who caused it are probably not that badly injured.

Don't know where to start on this one. So many people display bad driving habits (myself included) these days, but we all think we're good drivers. The truth is we're clearly not.

 

Saying lorries should be limited to 40mph is a an ill-conceived knee jerk reaction. Maybe certain elements of this accident were unavoidable? In the sense that; if you have X amount of cars, travelling at X speed, in X proximity, then the law of averages would suggest someone's going to get badly hurt at some point. I've lost count of the near misses I've seen which could have had far worse consequences.

 

People living more sustainable life styles would help reduce the lorries on the road, but let's face it - until some event causes mass extinction, we're all pretty unlikely to give up our consumerist lifestyles. Anyway, enough of the bull shit.

 

My thoughts are with those poor soul's who were injured and killed. Wrong place, wrong time.

Don't know where to start on this one. So many people display bad driving habits (myself included) these days, but we all think we're good drivers. The truth is we're clearly not.

 

 

I totally agree mate. I am one of those said lorry drivers and I know I have bad habbits.

All I can do is try to get to where i'm headed as safe as possible.

If i cant see then I cant drive.

 

 

I have seen some daylight pics of the m5 crash now and it seems all the very front vehicles are cars.

To me personaly it seems maybe a couple of cars had an incident and then everybody ploughed into the back.

 

People need to realise they are not invincible and not indestructable.

dont what the answer is, but it is down to education. My father is a driving instructor and he genuinely believes having to drive at night, in rain, on motorways should be part of the learning curve. you pass your test and believe you can drive. You dont start learning until you pass your test.

 

 

I know it would be better to do these things mate, But to be honest i think it would give the worst offenders a better reason to keep doing it as they now have a ticket to say they are competent drivers.

It's all about increasing your stopping distance as conditions worsen. 10 times for fog or ice. I wonder how many people left that big a gap.

T`is all very sad !

 

We all do stupid things, everybody is guilty of it ?

Some folks paid with their lives. Others paid through the actions of others.

 

I commute 70 miles a day, on the M8, through the Harthill section, Scotland, which if you are experienced, gets kinda "chilly" at the winter ? Always alert, but others are not, unfortunately !

 

As an everyday motorway driver, I commiserate for the families of the bereaved.

 

Whats the answer ?? I honestly dont know !!

 

Hundreds of miles apart, but my thoughts are with those concerned.

 

Alan.........

I know it would be better to do these things mate, But to be honest i think it would give the worst offenders a better reason to keep doing it as they now have a ticket to say they are competent drivers.

 

Aye you are probably right...

 

never thought about it that way.....