jmwuk Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Thanks to your friend at Sky, if you don't already have Sky TV you can take advantage of our fantastic new friends and family offer which could save you up to £510! This gift will give you: Free Sky+HD box Free standard set-up (save £30) Half price Sky TV for a year (save up to £312) Half price HD pack for a year (save £61.50) Plus you can add on optional extras: Half price Sky Broadband Unlimited* for a year (save £45) when taken Sky Talk with Sky Talk Line Rental Half price Multiroom for a year (save £61.50) * Customers must be in a Sky On Net area to receive Sky Broadband. Up to 20Mb broadband availability is subject to location. Speeds vary with location and line quality. What could this mean for your monthly bill? Here are some examples: Sky Starter Bundle: 1 Sky TV entertainment pack and HD only £14.88 per month (normally £29.75) Sky Movies Bundle: All 6 Sky TV entertainment packs, Sky Movies pack and HD only £25.38 per month (normally £50.75) Sky Sports Bundle: All 6 Sky TV entertainment packs, Sky Sports pack and HD only £27.50 per month (normally £55.00) Sky World: All Sky TV packs and HD only £31.13 per month (normally £62.25) Hurry - to qualify for this offer you'll need to redeem your code by 16 June PM me you Full name and email. Only have 2 more left. Quote
mac300zx Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Can our friend at Sky do anything about Sky breaking the Ts&Cs of my contract with them, please? They've been useless so far. Quote
jmwuk Posted May 26, 2011 Author Posted May 26, 2011 If you go to a stand in your local high st. they will sort it. Quote
mac300zx Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Ta, will try that when I see one. I spent another wasted hour with the idiots on the phone again today. Quote
jmwuk Posted May 27, 2011 Author Posted May 27, 2011 We have a new call center most of them working there need shooting. What is up anyway.... Quote
mac300zx Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 You might regret asking that.... ;) Long story short... (and it really is much shorter than all the rubbish I've gone through so far). I have a HD projector, not a TV. I have a first edition Sky HD box. My setup is Component Video (hereafter known as CV) out of the HD box into a 'CV to VGA' adaptor and then into my projector. It's done via a YPbPr ("Yipper") cable. My projector only has that input ie. no HDMI in, no SCART in, no S-Video in. I've been more than happy with this for ages. The picture is fantastic. I have a Sky Protect plan which, in the Ts & Cs states something like "replacement equipment will provide AT LEAST (my emphasis) the same functionality". My HD box has played up for ages and I put up with all the "turn it off/on again/planner rebuild" stuff until I couldn't take it any more. The box is faulty in too many ways to list (I have listed them to Sky) but at least I can watch SOME stuff. New Sky HD boxes don't have CV out, so I can't connect one to my 'CV in' projector. Therefore if I accept a new HD box as a replacement, I won't be able to watch anything AT ALL. They've tried suggesting that there's a cable that converts HDMI to CV but there isn't - the only way to do it is with a very expensive modulator. 6 weeks ago, I challenged them to provide me with the details of this 'magical' cable by email. No email has been received, presumably because they can't find one - because there is no cable that will do it. So, as far as I can see, it appears to be a clear breach of the Ts & Cs. Currently my box has CV out but a new HD box doesn't - that's clearly not "at least the same functionality". And nobody at Sky will do anything about it other than send me around the loop again to try technical solutions that don't actually exist. It's ridiculous. "We'll try and get you another old style HD box", they say. "You've already tried that and there aren't any", I say. Then today I get another phone message left telling me that there aren't any old ones. Duh! And so it goes on. In the meantime, I'm still paying loads to Sky for shows I can't watch or record AND for the Sky Protect which doesn't seem to be worth the paper it's written on. It's soooooooooo frustrating. I mean no offence to you, btw. I'm positive you're great at your job 'cos you own a Z ;) Quote
jmwuk Posted May 27, 2011 Author Posted May 27, 2011 Ok I can see your point, I will ask the powers above and see what I can do. Quote
JaiKai Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Stop me if I'm getting this wrong ! Your converting component to vga so that your projector works from your sky. And you can't get a new sky hd box because it doesn't have component any Longer !! Why don't you get a hdmi to VGA cable ! hdmi is just VGA with audio combined in a new plug! Quote
JaiKai Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Stop me if I'm getting this wrong ! Your converting component to vga so that your projector works from your sky. And you can't get a new sky hd box because it doesn't have component any Longer !! Why don't you get a hdmi to VGA cable ! hdmi is just VGA with audio combined in a new plug! Here's a hdmi to component adaptor http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/hdmi-to-component-video-converter.html Quote
murt Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Here's a hdmi to component adaptor http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/hdmi-to-component-video-converter.html It says on there mate: Converts component video and digital coax or optical audio to HDMI. To HDMI, not from. Quote
JaiKai Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 So it does ! Well had another wee look and found this ! http://www.hdcable.co.uk/hdmi-to-component-converter.html There's even a review stating that there new sky box now works with there projector! Quote
murt Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 So it does ! Well had another wee look and found this ! http://www.hdcable.co.uk/hdmi-to-component-converter.html There's even a review stating that there new sky box now works with there projector! Thats a good price to be honest :), at home i just run everything through my Onkyo amp, makes live so easy :flowers: Quote
JaiKai Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Don't know why a hdmi to VGA cable can't be used as there less than 10 bux Unless I'm totally miss understanding how it's all connecting together ! Quote
Gio Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Don't know why a hdmi to VGA cable can't be used as there less than 10 bux Unless I'm totally miss understanding how it's all connecting together ! HDMI and VGA are completely different. VGA is analogue HDMI is digital and does a lot more than just send video signals Pin 1 TMDS Data2+ Pin 2 TMDS Data2 Shield Pin 3 TMDS Data2– Pin 4 TMDS Data1+ Pin 5 TMDS Data1 Shield Pin 6 TMDS Data1– Pin 7 TMDS Data0+ Pin 8 TMDS Data0 Shield Pin 9 TMDS Data0– Pin 10 TMDS Clock+ Pin 11 TMDS Clock Shield Pin 12 TMDS Clock– Pin 13 CEC Pin 14 Reserved (HDMI 1.0-1.3c), HEC Data- (Optional, HDMI 1.4+ with Ethernet) Pin 15 SCL (I²C Serial Clock for DDC) Pin 16 SDA (I²C Serial Data Line for DDC) Pin 17 DDC/CEC/HEC Ground Pin 18 +5 V Power (max 50 mA) Pin 19 Hot Plug Detect (All versions) and HEC Data+ (Optional, HDMI 1.4+ with Ethernet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI Quote
JaiKai Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Lol, I think I'll just keep off this thread now!:whistling: Just checked my media centre pc and it's dvi not vga. I was thinking dvi but brain wasn't engaged and said VGA even when I know VGA is an analog signal. But I did find this http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDfury-1080P-HDMI-Converter-Transcoder/dp/B000SOPWS8 HDMI and VGA are completely different. VGA is analogue HDMI is digital and does a lot more than just send video signals Pin 1 TMDS Data2+ Pin 2 TMDS Data2 Shield Pin 3 TMDS Data2– Pin 4 TMDS Data1+ Pin 5 TMDS Data1 Shield Pin 6 TMDS Data1– Pin 7 TMDS Data0+ Pin 8 TMDS Data0 Shield Pin 9 TMDS Data0– Pin 10 TMDS Clock+ Pin 11 TMDS Clock Shield Pin 12 TMDS Clock– Pin 13 CEC Pin 14 Reserved (HDMI 1.0-1.3c), HEC Data- (Optional, HDMI 1.4+ with Ethernet) Pin 15 SCL (I²C Serial Clock for DDC) Pin 16 SDA (I²C Serial Data Line for DDC) Pin 17 DDC/CEC/HEC Ground Pin 18 +5 V Power (max 50 mA) Pin 19 Hot Plug Detect (All versions) and HEC Data+ (Optional, HDMI 1.4+ with Ethernet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI Quote
Gio Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Yes, you can get HDMI to VGA like the one you just posted but, because they need to decode the digital and then convert to analogue, they're much more expensive than a straight format change (eg HDMI DVI although even that misses a bit off). It is a lot to pay to degrade the signal from digital to analogue! @mac300zx, I know this is not why you posted and if you're happy with your projector than you shouldn't have to change it if you don't want to. But as and when you do choose to change, you will find that the HDMI out of the Sky Box will give you MUCH better quality when fed into an HDMI projector. Better than HDMI converted to analogue component and much better than component to component. General rule is don't convert signals if you can possibly avoid it and stick to the original format as much as possible (i.e. digital TV looks better when HDMI throughout). Quote
mac300zx Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 @jaikai, that box looks like it might do the job - thanks! The muppets in Maplin led me to believe that a device like that would cost hundreds, hence my stress. I'll see if I can get Sky to pay for one for me. @Gio, thanks for the good info. You totally nailed my point about not having to change it - dunno why Sky can't grasp it. I was aware of the signal thing and my next projector will definitely have at least an HDMI input (they'll probably have some kind of HDMI v2 by then). I'm going to get something with higher ANSI lumens too - I'm tired of having to draw the curtains all the time ;) Quote
Big Rod Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 We have a new call center most of them working there need shooting. At last! For once the telephony's not getting blamed! I might just take a screen shot of this and post it up in the office!! :) Quote
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