Not happy, as my car failed the mot and not on anything structural or important.

 

In the past 2 years mot's it has passed with flying colours with no cats.

This year, different mot station, as the one i used before have closed down, they failed it on emissions due to no cats.

 

Unfortunately it states on the logbook, first reg date 2004 (obviously when it was first registered in this country)

The reg plate on the car is a K so 93' ish.

 

I checked all the usual places, and the dates come back as 1990.

So pre 92 doesnt need a cat test, however, trying to prove this to the tester is proving difficult

 

What can i produce to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that what be acceptable to the mot station

 

Any ideas are greatly appreciated

 

Cheers

Graham

Just give him a poke in the eye :rofl:

Groover- perhaps it's because you live abroad!!

lol yeah these isle of wight monkeys have no idea, i think its cos i knew it wouldnt need anything doing to pass, i tempted fate.:x:

 

A bit of good news-ish, i managed to get a print out of the year of manufacture using the chassis number, which will make it easier to get it through on the no cats front, but im a bit unhappy as ive now got an older car than i thought :mad:

it should say on the V5 the year of manufacture, mine did think its on the front or near the center line when opened, it should still clearly state the date of manufacture. would check for you but its currently still at DVLA getting its owner changed over to me.

I Have the V5 in front of me only in section3 under special notes it says: Was registered/used overseas. Declared manufactured 2004

 

Nothing else on the V5 to indicate anything else

Just out of interest what do you pay for your car tax? It should be of course under the old rules of below 1549cc then the low rate and above 1549cc then the higher rate... If you can show them this it might help your cause, although it'll only proove that its older than march 01...

There is no emissions data for a Fairlady Z anywhere on any UK MOT database, the MOT guy should do it as non-cat test no matter what year it is as there is no data on record.

Thats what i wanted to hear, so i can tell him in so many words he is a:xxx:

 

How sure are you, otherwise i end up looking like one lol

I'm a MOT tester.

 

Does he use a computerized machine or is it a hand held job he use's to do the emissions test?

cool :bow::bow:

 

I assume it was computerised, it uses software AVL DIX MOT-UK V1.8.2.1 I also have just noticed in the vehicle model section, he has put 350z model code z33

 

 

What abot the sidelight issue, apparently incorrect colour?

Thanks again for the info, very much appreciated

 

Cheers

Graham

Edited November 24, 200916 yr by groover

AS long as the DVLA have'nt registered it as a 300ZX then you should be able to get him to run it though a non-cat basic emission test.

 

I get my 94 S13 200sx though the emission test like that. I'm not running a cat so the readings are high & fails the cat test, the computer does'nt have any info on the CA18DET engine, only the later SR20DET, so I have to do it as a old BET (Basic Emssions Test) with the higher limits.

 

If he's a old bloke he may still be a :xxx:

 

Failing that the garage I work for is only across the water in Fareham.

No The V5 just states a Nissan coupe, no mentio of 300zx or fairladyz

 

Thats just it, he's a young bloke, i noticed his certificate on the wall started Nov last year, so probably a bit green or thinks he is doing everything ny the book.

 

Dont get me wrong, if it was a structural or safety issue then i would agree 100% that the guy is thorough, but it annoys me when a so called professional is not up to spec with the guidelines he has to work too.

 

Thanks again

 

Graham

Tell them that they have tested the vehicle's emission incorrectly (Z33 not a Z32) & that it should be a non-cat test. prob used the Z33 as the Z32 is'nt on the system.

 

As for the sidelights, it's down to the tester, if you think that there is a problem you could ask the testing stations MOT QC bloke to double check them.

He has tested it to the wrong standards

 

It hasnt helped that your V5 is showing the incorrect year of manufacture, I presume he has mistaken the car for a 350z because of the incorrect date on the V5.

 

TBH if the car has been tested in the last couple of years then all its details will be on the MOT comp system...there is no need for him to re-enter it. Problem now is there is an incorrect record of the vehicle on the system.

 

 

Also as your previous MOT still had time on it, the car is still in test, just because he incorrectly failed it does not invalidate the previous years test.

 

Ohh and gimmie a minute or two and I will PM you

Thanks to both of you, its great to have a couple of MOT testers on side:bow::bow:

 

Re sidelights, after looking at the testers handbook, it only states that the front and rear position lights show the correct colour : Reason for rejection would be: a front position lamp shows light other than white, or yellow if incorporated in a yellow headlamp.

 

Now my led sidelights are white, although they look hid, they are white, its doesnt state in the handbook that it cant be a certain shade of white.

Is it a free retest? if not then id be complaining that the vehicle was tested as a different car completely, id question his ability to do the job and ask for the manager. not to be an ass, but at the moment you have basically been robbed, he has tested your car as something it is clearly not. You might want to take your car back with some pictures of what a 350Z looks like and ask him to point out where he thinks your car resembles it.

 

Also, it wouldn't be a valid fail due to this, so even if it did affect the old MOT, it wouldn't this time. and that would even stand up in a court of law, a good solicitor would pick that point up strait away and win the case based on that info.

 

As for side lights, take a copy of where it clearly states the sidelights, and ask him to point out exactly what it failed on. clearly sounds to me like he hasn't got a clue what he is doing, cert or not. I personally wouldn't be a very happy bunny.

 

PS, not to hijack the thread or anything, but a question to the MOT peeps, can you fail on shock dust boots that have disintegrated? as i cant find anything in the MOT hand book that states they need to be OK. the only ones i know of are the tie rod gaiters.

Edited November 24, 200916 yr by vodkashots

Vodkashots - You can't fail for a shock dust boot split/damaged or missing, might get a advise, as there not part of the test. You could fail if the dust boot had a bump stop bult into it & that was damaged as this is a part of the suspension. You'd have to be unlucky to get failed for that though.

Vodkashots - You can't fail for a shock dust boot split/damaged or missing, might get a advise, as there not part of the test. You could fail if the dust boot had a bump stop bult into it & that was damaged as this is a part of the suspension. You'd have to be unlucky to get failed for that though.

 

Thanks for that, reason i asked was for some reason (only on the rears) the dust boots seem to have gone very hard and brittle??? and basically just shattered, like they had been heated to the point they dried out if that makes any sense?

 

Anyway, back to this problem of groovers MOT. does seem odd that the guy didn't know a 350z

It would be a partial retest and a charge may be payable apparently as i took the vehicle away from the garage. But i will go for the free retest on these grounds

 

 

 

 

And cheers for the info

 

Graham

Edited November 24, 200916 yr by groover

No a shocker dust boot is not part of the test.

 

The only dust gaitors that come into the test are front outer CV gaiters and steering rack gaitors. The reason being steering can be seriously affected if water or dirt gets in.

thank you for the confirmation.