ricey racer Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 well here goes..... my younger brother is in the last year at school now but he's been getting bullied off a group of lads.... up intill few weeks ago we thought he has just a little shit who liked to get suspended alot cums tolight it's so he does not have to attend school.... :confused: on friday night there was about 20 lads aging from 14 to 18 took his bike of him and a 16 tear old lad punched him. my brother procided to chin this lad but as soon as he started winning the strengh in numbers rule cum in to affect :rant: ( y does no one play 1 on 1 no more ) he turned up on my door with blood all over him.... :rant: :rant: well i lost it to say the least and know it's not the best thing to do being 24 small but quite stocky but i only look 18 i jumped in the car and went straight to were the lads are. got the to find 20+ lads and lasses drinkin the park, i went straight up to the biggest one 17 yr ish old and about 6 ft 1 how had also hit my 5ft 6 spelk of a brother and i kicked the living shit out the infront of all his mates and told all them they better stop pickin on him.. :slap: :rant: the bike was gone but never mind to day my younger brother was at school and at dinner time the same group of lads were waitin for him. one lad a ravor or something simial and my brother cums home again bllod off his ear and face, this lad had slashed him i went straight to school but the school were more intrested in getting me nicked than sortin the problem... i dont do police but then again my brother cums first and i will go to jail if they touch him again what do i do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markzx Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It's not easy to deal with, because its likely to just escalate. Usually you need three or for lads and your little brother. Go down to where the gang hang out and get your brother to fight the gang leader. It don't matter if he wins or not so long as he has a good go. You and your buddys are just there to make sure it stays one on one. This usually works. I know because I'm the youngest and all 4 of my brothers were cock of the school. So when my youngest brother left school and i went up to second years seniors the kids in the 5th and 4th years that had crossed his path all wanted to settle scores. I stood my ground, won some and lost plenty. They were all older and bigger than me at the time. One group in the 5th form were a real set of *******s and I ended up having a fight or getting a kicking at least once a week for about 3 months. I wouldn't go and ask my brothers or i'd get a kicking for being a wimp, but my mate told his brother what was going on and he told my brother. He came and collored me one night and took me down to where these guys hung out. He said to me who's the ring leader and hardest. Me thinking he's going to give em a good kicking pointed him out . Our kid just said " my brother wants to kick your head in and am here to kick anyones head in who interferes." That was it I got a beating, but he looked every bit as bad as me next day and they never touch me again. Four years later I was at Manchester Poly with that guy and we are still mate to this day. don't just go and wollop one or they'll just give him a kicking next day and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 just had the head on the phone who told me that cause they assaulted and stole his bike on friday and the same lad brung the inserdent to school that they are suspending my brother.........? :confused: are they 4 ****ing real :rant: :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viniboy Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The problem now a days is that being a big bloke or a hard nut dont hold any water. These youngsters dont do scared on the whole. They see too much violence and daredevil stuff on the tele and they all think they are invincible so the only way to handle a situation like yours is through the law. Unless of course you are willing to go all the way and really hurt someone. Then you will be the one who ends up in jail. If you do hurt anyone end up in jail then they will have a free run on your brother because you wont be there. You need a crowd to have any effect. You need a reputation and then you might get respect. otherwise mate you are fighting a losing battle. if you want to get revenge then the best way is do it under handed and take them out 1 by 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 mate wit my family i could have him takin away and found i kielda but it should not have to cum to that... :nono: ? they are well out there depth but there only KIDS...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemetothepub Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Yeah is a hard one to call really. Why are they picking on your brother, hate to say it but very rarely is it for no reason. Not saying your brother has donew something wrong to them, but there is always a reason. It is he is weak? A snitch? A geek? Teachers pet? Pissed off one of the group by doing something? A loud mouth? Could be he is just anoying! There normally has to be something. A group wont just turn on someone just because they are there. I'd start from there and find out why. See if there is something obviose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 problem is my brother his just had pins in his hand 3 weeks ago so can only use 1 hand... thats why i chin the biggest one but i looks like it's going to cum to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyEd Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 That sucks! My only advise at this moment in time, is to try and get this group on video - preferably whilst they're giving your bro a bit of abuse and give it to the Police. Regardless of your feelings towards our wonderful Police force - they are still the best people to deal with this. [Getting slashed however is totally unacceptable!] All the best.... and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 Yeah is a hard one to call really. Why are they picking on your brother, hate to say it but very rarely is it for no reason. Not saying your brother has donew something wrong to them, but there is always a reason. It is he is weak? A snitch? A geek? Teachers pet? Pissed off one of the group by doing something? A loud mouth? Could be he is just anoying! There normally has to be something. A group wont just turn on someone just because they are there. I'd start from there and find out why. See if there is something obviose. mate i know that your sayin and i have slapped my brother 4 his cheek but that does not give a group of people the right :nono: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 These youngsters dont do scared on the whole. 1. well the lot of them just stud and watch me stamp all over this lad nd done NOTHING... i think i went abit far really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemetothepub Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 mate i know that your sayin and i have slapped my brother 4 his cheek but that does not give a group of people the right :nono: Agreed and not saying it does give them the right to pick on him. From the sounds of it you need to send him to a boxing club mate. Get him to back his cheek up with a few good right handers. Cocky little shits who cant fight will always get picked on, so so has to stop one or the other. Stop being cheeky or learn how to fight. From seeing it before the only thing that will work will be the latter, once he starts kicking the crap out of people who step up to him they soon stop doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 as ov later i have MADE him stick up for himself thats how i got the pins.... but he won! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex stu Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I agree pick them off one by one till you get to the ring leader, i used to be a copper, and occasionally the law is *****x, then odd word from a copper to a known scrote ie someone who has been in a bit of trouble, sorts out the problem. There is always another way to skin a cat if you know what i mean, pm me or go msn, if you want to chat, i might be able to tell you what you can get away with. and what the law says is acceptible. But my son had the same problem, at school, its amazing how quick someone hits the deck when they come fists at you, but you get them in a prerssure point hold. two fingers and they cry like a baby. stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 my problem is i have a very short fuse so it usually completely kick off then kick off some more then think about what you.ve do while sitting in a cell. thing is im on last warning im have 2 abh and 1 gbh and afray against me next one and it's a strike they told me :slap: think ill take u up on you offer mate speak soon :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickz32 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Ditto to what stu said, Im a serving copper, so if you want to talk, just mail me. Having a fight is one thing, slashing some one is another. Personally, if it was my brother, getting slashed is worth getting the police involved. As soon as someone decides to bring a knife to the occasion is where i draw the line. If it continues fella, just remember, you cant help him if your in the nicker, so just think before you act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deve8uk Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 reading between teh lines I can see that your school does not want to do anything for a couple of reasons. 1 you brother has been a pita of late and they cant wait to get shot of him. 2 becomming agressive towards tehm just underline 1. ok thats out teh way. The school, as do the police have a duty to protect children being bullied. If yoour school does not want to address the issue of your brothers behaviour and situation then they are breaking the law. period. I know I used to sit on a committee for a school that deals with this. get your brother to write out al the instances from when it all 1st took place as accuratly as he can remember, called a bully diary. write down who was there, who did what and as closely as he can remember who said what, you need to put dates in so just the one your sure on. Then ask for a meeting with teh head to discuss the matter with a representative of social services. Not the fact they have expulled him, just the fact about teh bullying. Let them take a photo copy, do not let tehm take the original and inform them that that is going to your solicitor. Now the part your not going to like, go to the police station. I know you have history and you dont like them, but beleive me on this, they are your allies. Many of tehm have children so getting to teh bottom of this will be their priority. Especialy as you have approached them on your own free will. Now I am not saying this will resolve the issue, but the school will know that it is recorded that they done jack shit and it has esculated to your brother being attacked by a knife. They will know that the police have been informed. Social services will probably get someone to talk to your brother. Now, the best part and the bit your going to like. Now that it is all on record the next time your brother is threatened you will be able to protect your brother useing any means the coppers are about to tell you about. How do I know this works, well I posted something similar some time ago, it took some persuasion with the dads but they soon got the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey racer Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 i understand the making a diary but my brother is very secritive about it. like i say i only found out recently and he is the tipical stubin teenager. i think he is ashamed to tell anyone and just wants to sort it with out every body in the school knowin him as a grass and little shity arse, and thats not what he is! kids!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deve8uk Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 well the other way is to let him fight it out with tehm every day till something serious happens. they have already used a knife. being known as a snitch is one thing, being named as a bully is another. There was a mother heartbroken on TV this morning because her "loverbull rogue" got stabed by a 12 & 14 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaza Steve Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 fully agree with dave on this police cant act without evidence , the school or obligated by law to protect children , they have probably suspended your brother to protect him until its sorted out .main thing is keep calm and make an apointment with the headmaster take a solicitor go and see citizens advice you may apply for legal aid put the shitz up the headmaster that his regime and policies are being brought into question , contact the local education authority and state you have reservations on how a serious assault is being handled at school level , if your bro wont make a diary then you do it ..keep in calm and not emotive , dates times and incidents , if you can get anywitness statements then great , may be enough to get these pricks ASBO'd at the least ..i would do as you have and go and sort it , but its only sorting it for yourself mate not your bro, he needs support mainly now , sit down with him and the rest of the family and tell him he has your support but he needs to be open with you all so you can stop this happening ..Good luck mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deve8uk Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 cant agree more with steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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