Hopefully this ambitious thread title will bring some needed attention.

 

I was thinking... very positive move for this club could be the introduction of later model 300's into the UK!!?

 

I'm currently very interested in Bringing over a 1999 Spec Slicktop over to the UK from Japan. But don't want to carry the burden of a Model report on my shoulders alone. A few have responded similarly.

 

Can we put this to some sort of Club vote, so that the issue is settled, and 'We' dreamers can either realize our dreams,,, or wake up and smell the coffee??

 

 

***has anyone called around to the various SVA companies to make sure that a model report isn't already floating around???

I think this is a great idea.

 

Obviously it's not cheap but once we had a model report we could charge people to use it so the money could be recouped. Rumours tell me the club has the money.

The question is how many models of that exact type would subsequently be imported and would we ever recoup our investment ?

I reckon it's a great idea! Surely if it became common knowledge the club 'owned' such a thing importers from all over the country would want to use it?

 

Not to mention of course people like Boomin33 who want to import one for themselves.

Its a great idea, being able to bring in 99 spec's would be fantastic, however as AndyP says, the car would have to be bog standard without a single thing changed from the factory, and then all successive imports would have to be identical. The old style ESVA tests were INCREDILY stringent and they were anal about the tiniest details, the newer ones will be 10 times worse.

maybe it's worth looking into, to find out exactly what's what?

 

It must be possible to find out all the details somewhere before committing to actually having the report made?

 

I see your point about finding a stock car and then all the subsequent imports having to be the same.......that'll kinda hard I would imagine lol

This kind of thing (to me anyway) is a business venture - it's going too benefit only a fraction of the subscribed members, yet we'll be paying for (risking!) it. If it's such a sure-fire money maker, a) why hasn't someone done it, b) why don't you do it yourself - it would be a great part time business?!?

 

I can't imagine you ever getting the numbers to make it worthwhile, when there's so many other imports which have greater demand.

 

Rich

just looked on the Dft site - i thought the £1500 figure had been banded about for the esva test - well the dft are quoting £180?!?

just looked on the Dft site - i thought the £1500 figure had been banded about for the esva test - well the dft are quoting £180?!?

 

to get a esva you need the model report... the inspectors can't look at it otherwise!

I think we'd have to go for LWB TT targa just as there's more of them.

 

The club might recoup the money or even make some at, say, £500 a 'loan'.

 

It might not and it might make a loss - but from what I heard (and it could be wrong) the club can easily afford that.

 

It would be a positive, forward thinking move. Otherwise where will the club be in a few years as more and more cars get broken / scrapped?

 

 

 

Oh, and I'd really like a 99 twin turbo!

Seems a good plan and something the club could manage. Would just have to make sure the big/decent importers know we have sorted it then more 99spec zeds might make it to the uk

to get a esva you need the model report... the inspectors can't look at it otherwise!

 

 

but from reading the dft site the esva is for cars without a model report anyway?

 

2.4 Cars and light vehicles up to 10 years old and not type-approved for the European Union or Great Britain

You should first consult the manufacturer or his agent to establish the design and construction pedigree of the vehicle. If the car was built to a British or European type-approval specification, please follow the procedure in Section 2.2 .

 

If the car is not to a British or European Type Approval specification, you can only proceed if the vehicle meets, or is modified to meet, technical standards broadly comparable with those of European type approval

 

Single Vehicle Approval

Your vehicle will have to pass a Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) inspection of its design and construction before it can be registered and licensed. A vehicle that passes will be issued with a Minister's Approval Certificate, which you will need to present to license and register it. (A Department's Approval Certificate issued in Northern Ireland is also valid in Great Britain.) If your vehicle is 3 or more years old it will also have to pass the normal "MoT" roadworthiness test prior to licensing & registration.

 

Since 1 August 2001 there have been two levels of SVA: standard and enhanced. Standard SVA will be applied in cases where the number of affected vehicles is expected to be low and we can accept that the very demanding safety and environmental standards of type approval will not be undermined. The enhanced inspection (ESVA) will be applied in other cases - i.e. where the number of vehicles entering service warrants a more thorough inspection. Further advice is given in free leaflet SVA4, which can also be seen on the DfT web site.

 

Enhanced SVA will be required for the majority of non type-approved imports, whether imported by individuals privately or for any commercial reason.

 

Standard SVA will apply only for the following main categories of imported vehicle 1:

 

Any "personally imported" vehicle as defined below

Any left-hand drive vehicle

At August 2003 the Standard SVA inspection for cars and dual-purpose vehicles costs £150 and for goods vehicles (including bi-purpose vehicles) £60. For ESVA the basic fees are £180 and £90 respectively you might have to pay more for independent tests if you do not have all the required information for your vehicle. Special rates apply for re-tests and other circumstances. Please see leaflet SVA4 for details.

 

What is a Personal Import?

 

With effect from 1 February 2001 you are a personal importer only

 

a. if the vehicle has been imported by a person entering the United Kingdom;

 

b. that person had, at the time the vehicle was imported, been normally resident in a country other than the United Kingdom for a continuous period of at least 12 months;

 

c. that person intends to become normally resident in the United Kingdom;

 

d. the vehicle has been in the possession of that person and used by him in the country where he has been normally resident for a period of at least 6 months before its importation; and

 

e. the vehicle is intended for his personal or household use in the United Kingdom.

 

What the applicant will need to produce as evidence of meeting the above criteria:

 

1a. Outside the EC C+E 388 as proof of 12-month continuous residence. (No other custom forms will be accepted as a substitute for this).

 

1b. Inside the EC documents such as household bills will be accepted as evidence but they must cover the 12-month period.

 

or

 

2. ownership document or Registration document plus insurance document or service invoices for the vehicle covering the 6-month period. NB the European Community countries are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Eire, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden the UK, ,. Cyprus, The Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia

 

NB the original documentation is needed

 

For further information, please refer to SVA 4

Doesn't sound like it's in the best interest of the club to do one for the SWB or Slicktop.

 

I definitely think it should do it for the LWB though!! mind you there will be people against it.

I originally had a comment that was similar to Royal's about the Club benefiting from a bit of positive energy infusion... bringing in Nice, Newer and "good" Z32's couldn't hurt the cause.

 

I think I may have to go solo on the SWB side ( hopefully it will cover both Slicktops and T-Tops ). I'll start making some calls... keep you guys posted as to what I find.

esva is for cars without type approval - which an import won't have if it was manufactured after the equivalent was discontinued in the UK (96).

 

Then "you might have to pay more for independent tests if you do not have all the required information for your vehicle" comes in to play because, as far as the rules are concerned, a 97, 98 or 99 model never existed in the UK.

This would not be a good "investment" for the club because:

 

(a) The model report is too "specific", ie you'd need one for all the variants built during that particular model year,

(b) 99-spec cars still commision a lot of money in Japan and hence would be considered "too expensive" to get on the road in the UK,

© At that price, why would anyone buy a Zed when they can easily buy a used 350Z, etc. for similar money

 

I could go on ...

 

In theory it's a nice idea but in practise you'll find it won't make financial sense.

 

Now, here's another question: What are the legalities of importing a 99-spec ZX through a third country? Ie, import it into say Germany or Holland (has to be an EU country), have them perform all the regulatory checks, etc on it and get the car registered, then import it to the UK as an EU car, hence circumventing the model report, ESVA regs? Not sure if this would work and the legalities should be thoroughly investigated but it is worth checking out if you're really serious about importing a 99-spec ZX. I know of at least one person who is looking to import a 99-spec into Holland at the moment.

This would not be a good "investment" for the club because:

 

(a) The model report is too "specific", ie you'd need one for all the variants built during that particular model year,

(b) 99-spec cars still commision a lot of money in Japan and hence would be considered "too expensive" to get on the road in the UK,

© At that price, why would anyone buy a Zed when they can easily buy a used 350Z, etc. for similar money

 

I could go on ...

 

In theory it's a nice idea but in practise you'll find it won't make financial sense.

 

Now, here's another question: What are the legalities of importing a 99-spec ZX through a third country? Ie, import it into say Germany or Holland (has to be an EU country), have them perform all the regulatory checks, etc on it and get the car registered, then import it to the UK as an EU car, hence circumventing the model report, ESVA regs? Not sure if this would work and the legalities should be thoroughly investigated but it is worth checking out if you're really serious about importing a 99-spec ZX. I know of at least one person who is looking to import a 99-spec into Holland at the moment.

 

 

Thanks danny and rich666, everything i was reading was pointing to it only needing an emmissions test, which the dft do - was trying to work out why it seemed too easy!

 

there is a section saying that from NI or IOM or channel islands it just needs a valid mot from that country?

 

might have to research how to get one into any of those later - in the meantime, i must really do some work!

This would not be a good "investment" for the club because:

 

(a) The model report is too "specific", ie you'd need one for all the variants built during that particular model year,

(b) 99-spec cars still commision a lot of money in Japan and hence would be considered "too expensive" to get on the road in the UK,

© At that price, why would anyone buy a Zed when they can easily buy a used 350Z, etc. for similar money

 

I could go on ...

 

In theory it's a nice idea but in practise you'll find it won't make financial sense.

 

Now, here's another question: What are the legalities of importing a 99-spec ZX through a third country? Ie, import it into say Germany or Holland (has to be an EU country), have them perform all the regulatory checks, etc on it and get the car registered, then import it to the UK as an EU car, hence circumventing the model report, ESVA regs? Not sure if this would work and the legalities should be thoroughly investigated but it is worth checking out if you're really serious about importing a 99-spec ZX. I know of at least one person who is looking to import a 99-spec into Holland at the moment.

 

 

Thanks for the help and useful info. If you could get your mate doing the Holland thing email me on vg30dett.uk@gmail.com that would be great!

 

but.. to answer you're question about "why would..." There are far more ridiculous & Stranger things / objects of desire / Collectors items.. that people pay far more money for...

 

Anyone else interested in a $28,000 piece of Toast!?

 

I just happen to be looking for the best example 300 I can get a hold of until something like the GTS comes out and beyond (as Ryans Twin-Turbo 350 Conversion is adding another £17K to the price...) and found a slicktop with 5K Mi. on the clock ..

OK, Have spoken to a couple of specialist companies (model reports direct & model reports.com ) that have done Model reports for Fairlady Cabriolets, and a number of 350 Models.

VERDICT: Not worth doing, very difficult. + £3500 - £6000. Better to wait each year as once they are 10 years old you don't need the model report.. i.e. in 2009 we can all have 99-Specs without anything more than an MOT.

 

HOLLAND/EUROPE - Have less stringent Certification Certificates and the UK will not accept these Certificates at face value.. ie. will ( they are 95% sure) require you to get one done over here also. Won't just waive you in..

 

Poo.

 

Anyone know someone with a very nice SWB or Slicktop TT Manual that they may want to sell!! ? I found a '93 slicktop in Birmingham... but won't be able to get up there for at least a week to check it out. may need to go to Cardiff to check out that red one..

OK, Have spoken to a couple of specialist companies (model reports direct & model reports.com ) that have done Model reports for Fairlady Cabriolets, and a number of 350 Models.

VERDICT: Not worth doing, very difficult. + £3500 - £6000. Better to wait each year as once they are 10 years old you don't need the model report.. i.e. in 2009 we can all have 99-Specs without anything more than an MOT.

 

HOLLAND/EUROPE - Have less stringent Certification Certificates and the UK will not accept these Certificates at face value.. ie. will ( they are 95% sure) require you to get one done over here also. Won't just waive you in..

 

Poo.

 

Anyone know someone with a very nice SWB or Slicktop TT Manual that they may want to sell!! ? I found a '93 slicktop in Birmingham... but won't be able to get up there for at least a week to check it out. may need to go to Cardiff to check out that red one..

 

i was under the impression that the regulation changes meant that a 1996 will be the last model year you will be able to import regardless???

i was under the impression that the regulation changes meant that a 1996 will be the last model year you will be able to import regardless???

 

 

 

I repeated myself a couple times to the "pay for Technical Advice" line on http://www.modelreports.com // he said, Nope.. Only ask for Model reports on 10 years or younger cars..

 

+++so much for paying for the right Advice!+++

 

 

maybe I should call Model Reports Direct and ask them the same.

it used to be the 10 year rule....but they changed it so that any car later than 96/97 must have a model report, regardless of the current year you are trying to import it in.